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Re: SACIID DENI VS HASSAN SHEIKH

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MrSinister wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 3:01 pm Everything I said happened. Nothing substantive came out this igu sawir meeting. Now hsm is sending qoorqoor and laftagareen to beg Deni.
Every thing was done except the elections this has to do with PL bc no elections can take place without single FMS they postponed this topic to May shir. PL has to get ready for big war Hassan Sheikh party want to manage Nothern harti votes in Laascaanood under the SFG similar to reer waqooyi and Banaadiri in Xamar.

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sahal80 wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 3:43 pm
MrSinister wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 3:01 pm Everything I said happened. Nothing substantive came out this igu sawir meeting. Now hsm is sending qoorqoor and laftagareen to beg Deni.
Every thing was done except the elections this has to do with PL bc no elections can take place without single FMS they postponed this topic to May shir. PL has to get ready for big war Hassan Sheikh party want to manage Nothern harti votes in Laascaanood under the SFG similar to reer waqooyi and Banaadiri in Xamar.

https://www.facebook.com/10008499637309 ... l/?app=fbl
Lol you mean the meaningless communique they had sent out ?
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MrSinister wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 3:53 pm
sahal80 wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 3:43 pm
MrSinister wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 3:01 pm Everything I said happened. Nothing substantive came out this igu sawir meeting. Now hsm is sending qoorqoor and laftagareen to beg Deni.
Every thing was done except the elections this has to do with PL bc no elections can take place without single FMS they postponed this topic to May shir. PL has to get ready for big war Hassan Sheikh party want to manage Nothern harti votes in Laascaanood under the SFG similar to reer waqooyi and Banaadiri in Xamar.

https://www.facebook.com/10008499637309 ... l/?app=fbl
Lol you mean the meaningless communique they had sent out ?
:lol: Yes. I think Dhulbahante will support to hold elections under the SFG in Laascaaood for their autonomy also their security will be under the SFG.
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There is another aspect both of you are not saying. The countries hsm is close to do not want to see a stable somalia and neither does the xalane mafia. It is obvious the xalane mafia are telling culusow that puntland needs to be involved. They are doing this to make it a roadblock.

Another point sahal made is that culusow needs to get rid of mahad salad to appease qatar and ethiopia. My question were is UAE? Why did they close the door on him? Why are they not funding him? Why does he need to go to Qatar to get funding, fully knowing that qatar will have conditions and one of that condition is to get rid of mahad salaad.

You see the xalane mafia and kenya/ethiopia/Djibouti and UAE are setting culusow up to fail. They will turn allies against him and make FMS against him. Then they will tell him the appease everyone.

It is not personal they just do not want a stable somalia. No matter who is the president they will always do this.
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Nomand wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 4:13 pm There is another aspect both of you are not saying. The countries hsm is close to do not want to see a stable somalia and neither does the xalane mafia. It is obvious the xalane mafia are telling culusow that puntland needs to be involved. They are doing this to make it a roadblock.
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You see the xalane mafia and kenya/ethiopia/Djibouti and UAE are setting culusow up to fail. They will turn allies against him and make FMS against him. Then they will tell him the appease everyone.

It is not personal they just do not want a stable somalia. No matter who is the president they will always do this.

This is why you are my favorite forumer. I feel sorry for these folks in this thread wasting their time. HSM is propped up by Xalane because he unlike Farmaajo has zero hadaf to push Somalia towards more of a independent route. Under this disgraced monkey AMISOM Ku Nool Culusow business is booming for Xalane, ATMIS transition is dead, thousands of Fufus coming in daily, zero protocol as far as international figures meeting individual politicians, Abiy mediating between SSC/Sland, I can go on.


Deni is useless he was just a small little pawn in the cycle, and still is but there is a bigger picture. When this imbicle Culusow says ‘Dunida heshiis la ah’ it’s code for we will be everybody’s bich opposite of Farmaajo’s message of Somalia being heshiis with who we have common interests with.
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Nomand wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 4:13 pm There is another aspect both of you are not saying. The countries hsm is close to do not want to see a stable somalia and neither does the xalane mafia. It is obvious the xalane mafia are telling culusow that puntland needs to be involved. They are doing this to make it a roadblock.

Another point sahal made is that culusow needs to get rid of mahad salad to appease qatar and ethiopia. My question were is UAE? Why did they close the door on him? Why are they not funding him? Why does he need to go to Qatar to get funding, fully knowing that qatar will have conditions and one of that condition is to get rid of mahad salaad.

You see the xalane mafia and kenya/ethiopia/Djibouti and UAE are setting culusow up to fail. They will turn allies against him and make FMS against him. Then they will tell him the appease everyone.

It is not personal they just do not want a stable somalia. No matter who is the president they will always do this.
The UAE agenda is to build armies sponsored by her and some how Govt will need permission not directly commanding them they have these kind of troops in Socotra and Caden, and it will open bases in all FMS and carry out air attacks. Ex security minister Abdullahi Nuur is opening for them a base for their militias in Middle Shabelle. Qatar deals with the Govt directly but they want to see some changes like Mahad Salad in exchange of budget support. Farah Abdulkadir who is Ikhwan is now more active awal waa is gaabin jiray he is going make the change for Qatar. They want wadaad Arabic speaking FM just to annoy the UAE and Egypt i heard about two candidates Cali Haji Warsame for the FM post and Doodisho. Haruuse is a business man who funded Gassan sh elections so he was rewarded with that post.
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Murax wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 4:27 pm
Nomand wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 4:13 pm There is another aspect both of you are not saying. The countries hsm is close to do not want to see a stable somalia and neither does the xalane mafia. It is obvious the xalane mafia are telling culusow that puntland needs to be involved. They are doing this to make it a roadblock.
.

You see the xalane mafia and kenya/ethiopia/Djibouti and UAE are setting culusow up to fail. They will turn allies against him and make FMS against him. Then they will tell him the appease everyone.

It is not personal they just do not want a stable somalia. No matter who is the president they will always do this.

This is why you are my favorite forumer. I feel sorry for these folks in this thread wasting their time. HSM is propped up by Xalane because he unlike Farmaajo has zero hadaf to push Somalia towards more of a independent route. Under this disgraced monkey AMISOM Ku Nool Culusow business is booming for Xalane, ATMIS transition is dead, thousands of Fufus coming in daily, zero protocol as far as international figures meeting individual politicians, Abiy mediating between SSC/Sland, I can go on.


Deni is useless he was just a small little pawn in the cycle, and still is but there is a bigger picture. When this imbicle Culusow says ‘Dunida heshiis la ah’ it’s code for we will be everybody’s bich opposite of Farmaajo’s message of Somalia being heshiis with who we have common interests with.
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thanks man, with everything culusow is and no matter how subservient he is, they will still set him up to fail. I think 1 month before the elections farmaajo said "a lot of people think somalia is a normal country but it is not a normal country"

Deni i guarantee you will make impossible demands and the xalane mafia will tell culusow to accept it and culusow will finish his remaining 3 years without achieving anything other then destroying everything farmaajo build.
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Nomand
What does the Djibouti gain if Somalia fails a fellow Somali country ? ¨
Why has UAE Turned on us it used to be one of our close allies during the 1980s the Emir of Abu Dhabi used to love Somalis ?
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sahal80 wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 4:43 pm
Nomand wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 4:13 pm There is another aspect both of you are not saying. The countries hsm is close to do not want to see a stable somalia and neither does the xalane mafia. It is obvious the xalane mafia are telling culusow that puntland needs to be involved. They are doing this to make it a roadblock.

Another point sahal made is that culusow needs to get rid of mahad salad to appease qatar and ethiopia. My question were is UAE? Why did they close the door on him? Why are they not funding him? Why does he need to go to Qatar to get funding, fully knowing that qatar will have conditions and one of that condition is to get rid of mahad salaad.

You see the xalane mafia and kenya/ethiopia/Djibouti and UAE are setting culusow up to fail. They will turn allies against him and make FMS against him. Then they will tell him the appease everyone.

It is not personal they just do not want a stable somalia. No matter who is the president they will always do this.
The UAE agenda is to build armies sponsored by her and some how Govt will need permission not directly commanding them they have these kind of troops in Socotra and Caden, and it will open bases in all FMS and carry out air attacks. Ex security minister Abdullahi Nuur is opening for them a base for their militias in Middle Shabelle. Qatar deals with the Govt directly but they want to see some changes like Mahad Salad in exchange of budget support. Farah Abdulkadir who is Ikhwan is now more active awal waa is gaabin jiray he is going make the change for Qatar. They want wadaad Arabic speaking FM just to annoy the UAE and Egypt i heard about two candidates Cali Haji Warsame for the FM post and Doodisho. Haruuse is a business man who funded Gassan sh elections so he was rewarded with that post.
why doesn't UAE fund him? why is he going to qatar? and why is UAE allowing qatar so much influence? take a step back and look at it from a distance. what do you see?

i tell you what i see. i see somalia being split but not allowed to leave each other and not allowed to work together. i see enemies of somalia pretending they have different agendas but are secretly working together.
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KacdoonSool wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 5:03 pm Nomand
What does the Djibouti gain if Somalia fails a fellow Somali country ? ¨
Why has UAE Turned on us it used to be one of our close allies during the 1980s the Emir of Abu Dhabi used to love Somalis ?
Puntland is a fellow somali and darod but yet deni fought day and night against farmaajo and what did he gain?

30 years of civil war doesn't happen to reasonable people or people that think beyond their stomach or the immediate. We are a failed people and this includes the obese man Gelle whose Djibouti looks worse then Mogadishu.
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Gubbet wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 10:22 am
theyuusuf143 wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 5:49 am It's my personal opinion that all these Dir and Daarood mercenaries in xamar live on hawiye blood. Only hawiye pay tax to the so called Somalia government. And that's not fair in any sense. They have the right to demand that other Somalis should pay their fair share of tax. If you don't pay tax then you have no rights to Have MPs. Dad aan cent bixin yaga iyo awaawshood toona baa gole kasta Ka buuxa. Hawiyaha waxaanu Ku dhiirigelinayna inay cunsuriyiin gar Ku taagan noqdaan. Oo ay somalida iska celiyaan.

Ninkaa wiliq waa legend.
The Office of the United Nations Special Representative, The Somalia Stability Fund, United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Aid, The Somalia Humanitarian Fund, The World Food Program, International Organization for Migration, and especially the World Bank would like to have a word with you about "nonsense."

Do you think relevant tax is buying a can of coca cola and giving an extra shilling in basic sales tax or then that little corner store passing that shilling forward to the local district administrator?

Nowhere---nowhere---nowhere in Somalia or Somaliland generate any "tax" to run their very own local area administration let alone have the capacity to even be able to "give" any tax to anyone?

Why are these people so economically illiterate among Somalis? Wallahi it is mind boggling.

You need to understand two at a basic minimum level;

1. Somalia doesn't "produce" (manufacture for export like cars, planes, even leather and tanning). It has virtually no "economy" (and this goes for Somaliland---Berbera or Mogadishu port don't generate an "economy" their purpose is supposed to be tools used by an "economy" especially one with something to export; also no livestock is not export for profit, it is basic service meaning the trade is subsistence)

2. Somalia has no wealth and no "wealthy" people (here I am talking assets implicated in foreign currency reserves capable of providing unfettered inflow of foreign capital which is the meaning of "wealthy" not little circulation of little capital within the country; US federal revenue from tax comes from "income tax" not "sales tax"...income tax is tax on the wealthy and their assets like estates and inheritance; the overwhelming majority of Americans do not make enough to even pay income tax).

So what you just said is "nonsense."

And I guarantee you when Rashid Abdi, Matt Bryden read his Guled Wiliq they private grimace and think "why in the world did we ever introduce him to" that neocon Jewish guy who is a Somaliland lobbyist with that UAE funded neo liberal magazine who when he sees Guled Wiliq's twitter feed privately grimaces and thinks "who ever brought him to me to get me to let him write an article for us before.."

Go and take a basic Introduction to Economics course wallah you can find lectures at Khan Academy and stuff.

Don't embarrass yourself again sxb. It is embarrassing to be that ignorant. Srs.


Beyle is a native of hargeisa and is a somalilander
He can own what ever he wants he was working in Somalia just like a lander can work in Ethiopia and jabuuti he never really believes in the cancerous union the same way. Tadhese mahdi guleed doesn’t believe in it and is an mp
Today beyle is chilling in his home in hargeisa with his people
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Nomand wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 5:11 pm
KacdoonSool wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 5:03 pm Nomand
What does the Djibouti gain if Somalia fails a fellow Somali country ? ¨
Why has UAE Turned on us it used to be one of our close allies during the 1980s the Emir of Abu Dhabi used to love Somalis ?
Puntland is a fellow somali and darod but yet deni fought day and night against farmaajo and what did he gain?

30 years of civil war doesn't happen to reasonable people or people that think beyond their stomach or the immediate. We are a failed people and this includes the obese man Gelle whose Djibouti looks worse then Mogadishu.
I told you UAE will have their own militias within the Govt why fund it? These militias will do the job for you without paying them shit. I don't believe in fake wadaniyad shit. We will move from AMISOM to foreign bases and there is no single country that will have a monopoly over Somalia. Qatar will not have its own militias within the Govt so they r supposed to fund the Govt if they have friends in the Govt. We r going to be like Djibouti.
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first this is not like Dijibouti.

Djibouti rents out land to foreign countries to have a military outpost inorder to keep and eye on the red sea those military outpost are manned by soldiers from those countries it does not recruit locals. UAE is not renting any land is not giving any money and is not sending any army. they are training local somalis to do their bidding. so the Djibouti example is wrong. Plus Dijbouti is controlled by one fat man. Somalia does not have a president who controls everywhere he barley controls Mogadishu.

2nd this is not about wadaniyad it is clear observation. UAE bases poses a threat to the civilians in every deegaan. and 3rd everything we have seen from UAE in Yemen and Libya has shown us UAE does not take kindly to any other foreign power who is not of the same agenda as them. like we have seen in turkey with Libya and Iran with Yemen. so the question is why is Somalia different why are they not doing the same thing they done in Libya and Yemen which is to oppose any other competing camp from having influence.
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Nomand,

I believe not just Xalane, but there is a global political marketplace that is predicated on Somalia being week.

-Longest coastline in Africa with no Coastguard. Who knows how many millions eat yearly based on free marine resources
-10s of thousands if not 100s of thousands of soldiers from various African countries since 2009 feeding their families based on AMISOM.
-100s of millions of revenue for Kenya/Ethiopia based on qaad consumption
-BS UN programs that also employ plenty of folks
-A haven for small arms dealers, drug lords, expired medicine dealers
-Free BS UN votes for ukraine, anti China etc

To top it all off this 68IQ country has possibly billions of barrels of oil. Somalia suddenly becoming a independent entity would drastically disturb a economic, political equilibrium.


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Nomand,

I believe not just Xalane, but there is a global political marketplace that is predicated on Somalia being week.

-Longest coastline in Africa with no Coastguard. Who knows how many millions eat yearly based on free marine resources
-10s of thousands if not 100s of thousands of soldiers from various African countries since 2009 feeding their families based on AMISOM.
-100s of millions of revenue for Kenya/Ethiopia based on qaad consumption
-BS UN programs that also employ plenty of folks
-A haven for small arms dealers, drug lords, expired medicine dealers
-Free BS UN votes for ukraine, anti China etc

To top it all off this 68IQ country has possibly billions of barrels of oil. Somalia suddenly becoming a independent entity would drastically disturb a economic, political equilibrium.


Again Culusow PERFECT President to ensure that status quo. Xalane will ensure he could survive taking motors in Villa Somalia but will make sure he stays weak which is perfectly fine with him as long as be gets his couple bucks.
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