Our 18th and 19th centuries leader Uleex Faarax and exchanging poetry with Raage Ugaas

[Gubbet]

I cannot even find myself with the mpatience that would dismiss you as not serious when what I read makes me imagine voice of a young person who has a natural trajectory to follow where understanding is concerned. Keep learning and reading and trying to understand---however motivates you hold on to it, including desire to deconstruct the "Darod" argument, because you will only come across more and more new information. It is not unfair to you if I say, I do not think we are on the same page about what objective truth is in this discussion. As such there is nothing further to discuss. If you cannot understand that "coveting Marehan land" was implicated by the mind bogglingly number of HG and MX clashes always predicated on attaining some form of "ownership" right to water equity in Marehan Country by HG then there is no purpose to continued discussion. We disagree on the basic "objective Truth," without which we cannot establish reason in a discussion.

[MandalorianDuulaya]

I cannot even find myself with the mpatience that would dismiss you as not serious when what I read makes me imagine voice of a young person who has a natural trajectory to follow where understanding is concerned. Keep learning and reading and trying to understand---however motivates you hold on to it, including desire to deconstruct the "Darod" argument, because you will only come across more and more new information. It is not unfair to you if I say, I do not think we are on the same page about what objective truth is in this discussion. As such there is nothing further to discuss. If you cannot understand that "coveting Marehan land" was implicated by the mind bogglingly number of HG and MX clashes always predicated on attaining some form of "ownership" right to water equity in Marehan Country by HG then there is no purpose to continued discussion. We disagree on the basic "objective Truth," without which we cannot establish reason in a discussion.

You can have your own opinion. But you are being insecure imo and not sure of others motivations which often leads you into a path of assumptions and what not.. What the hell is HG going to do with these two villages sitting on the border is beyond me.

In my opinion you are addicted to being in defensive role and also assume the world against you type of mentality which is largely false. Nobody has fired gun against you since 1993 you live peacefully in your territories. try to differentiate what is a time of war and time of peace and don't confuse the two with each other.

HG pastorals have come across our territories few times but that doesn't fuking mean they covet our lands. us and HG even fought each other in the 90s.. If HG wanted your desolate border city Cabuudwaaq you would have known

[Gubbet]

Ok.

[eliteSomali]

Fun fact, the Ugaasyo, or the ruling chiefs of Ogaden comes from a family called Bah Hawadle, a total of 11 clans, but only one of them rule, the reer Ugaas. Hawadle within the area mentioned go a lot further back than 18th century because the first of ugaas of the reer Ugaas would have existed around mid 1600s.

By the way, despite what some delusional folks on here may say, Shilaabo is far from being a shared town today. It's governor is MK, and both its deputy governor and mayor are Bahgeri. Don't believe the BS posted by online fkd warriors.

[sahal80]

Fun fact, the Ugaasyo, or the ruling chiefs of Ogaden comes from a family called Bah Hawadle, a total of 11 clans, but only one of them rule, the reer Ugaas. Hawadle within the area mentioned go a lot further back than 18th century because the first of ugaas of the reer Ugaas would have existed around mid 1600s.

By the way, despite what some delusional folks on here may say, Shilaabo is far from being a shared town today. It's governor is MK, and both its deputy governor and mayor are Bahgeri. Don't believe the BS posted by online fkd warriors.

وشهد شاهد من اهلها

North Shilaabo makaahii South Shilaabo bahgari East Shilaabo Mx
Hawadle borders with Bahari from South and HG with MX from East.

[Gubbet]

Fun fact, the Ugaasyo, or the ruling chiefs of Ogaden comes from a family called Bah Hawadle, a total of 11 clans, but only one of them rule, the reer Ugaas. Hawadle within the area mentioned go a lot further back than 18th century because the first of ugaas of the reer Ugaas would have existed around mid 1600s.

By the way, despite what some delusional folks on here may say, Shilaabo is far from being a shared town today. It's governor is MK, and both its deputy governor and mayor are Bahgeri. Don't believe the BS posted by online fkd warriors.

You participated in the Garasle topic and showed recognition of what I very clearly stressed in that topic;

My previous statements about Shilaabo the settlement ("village") vs. Shilaabo the territory ("region").

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 3#p5034813

Basically, Marehan have never "desired" the "settlement" of Shilabo and nor is it really even important to the broader territory.

The settlement itself was originally very politically picked from the furthest part from Marehan in the larger territory and is peripheral or on the borderline of the "territory" of Shilaabo.

In many ways, "Balanbale" is the defacto capital of Shilaabo "territory", even if the settlement of Shilaabo has dejure authority. It is also the largest town; far larger than Shilabo settlement.

Shilaabo "settlement" is irrelevant as far as equity; Marehan has the bulk of the territory and is even resurging to retake all grazing lost.

And the settlement has not only been irrelevant but has had 0 value to Marehan--which is why it was picked from the periphery of the territory to begin with

Now since I did not mention Shilaabo the settlement/town (really a village to be honest 1/2 the size of Balanbale town) in this topic or in the past strictly having defined my claim as Shilaabo the "territory"---

[More clarification in that previous Garasle topic...]

Shilabo the settlement =/= Shilabo the territory

There has "never" been a Marehan "community" living in Shilaabo "settlement."

Shilaabo the settlement is barely even a "town." It is still for all practical intents a "village"------a politicized, created village to "Ogadenize" Shilabo territory like "Warder" was a politicized created village to "Ogadenize" Hawd.

In an ideal natural administrative organization, Balanbale would be the capital of a Shilabo "territory"---and they can call Shilabo "settlement" Doh or whatever else it really naturally implicates.


So the southern-most Marehan who did graze furthest in Shilabo "territory" in places such as Lababar and Baarmagoog---haven't even been able to settle in Shilabo "settlement"" because the bulk had a unique migration period out last triggered by the SSDF and Menguste capture of Balanbale and harrying Marehan throughout Shilabo "territory."

The point of this topic is celebration that they have returned back to grazing even previously retreated from zones in Shilaabo the "territory"---previously affected by actual emigration + unique political targeting.

---and since this individual has participated in previous topics where I clearly and unmistakeably clarified the difference with great detail---


[And even more clarification in that Garasle topic...]

• Marehan are not from Shilabo "settlement."
  • Shilabo "settlement" itself is peripheral to Shilabo "territory."
    • The settlement was historically established a ~100 years ago to politically "unlink" Marehan & Shilabo territory.
    • It was the Abysinnian garrison overlooking "Higloole" in the broader "Doh" or Doobawayn territory between Faf (Abysinnian garrison: Qabri Dahar) & Baaarey (Abysinnian garrison: Kelafo)
  • The settlement of "Shilabo" is at the border of historical Shilabo valley; it is really as much Shilaabo "territory" as Beled-Weyne is Mudug "territory" or Garowe is Waqooyi "territory."
• Marehan, however, are both from and are the absolute majority of Shilaabo "territory."
  • The "grazing" land is the "territory" is the gold, the diamond, and the silver. It is why Marehan even was or is still in "Shilabo."
    • The permanent wells of "Kabacad" (Laasocaano to Ceel Baxay ) are northern veins of Shilaabo territory.
    • The permanent wells of "Ernuune" (Garasle to Fadhigaraadle) are the central veins of Shilaabo territory.
    • The permanent wells of "Ceelgaab" (Ceel Habreed to Lababaar) are the southern veins of Shilaabo territory.
  • 2/3 of the permanent wells and 80% of the grazing land---which is the entire importance to Shilaabo---are in the hand of Marehan. [Kabacad + Ernuune]
    • 1/2 of the rest (southern Ceelgaab) no one uses since Marehan were expelled in 1982 (Ceel Hebreed wells) and is a no man's land (quite literally even ENDF will destroy any settlements or "berkad," or if they don't Marehan will; 12 Cayr berkeds have been destroyed between 2015-2021). [This borders Matabaan district of Hiiraan]
    • The other 1/2 that is left (northern Ceelgaab) is contested between Bah Geri and the Cayr whom they allowed to settle in the furthest part of where Marehan were expelled from in 1982 (Lababaar wells).[This is part of Feerfeer district bordering Shabelle River]

---why would this individual express resentment towards me creating a straw argument "By the way, despite what some delusional folks on here may say, Shilaabo is far from being a shared town today. ?

Why would he?

Because Shilaabo territory even today is majority---even overwhelmingly---still Marehan. It is not only that he is a "minority" in Shilaabo territory---he is even a very disproportionately "small" minority in a very disproportionately "small" part of Shilaabo territory.

That is why he leans on superficial distractions---as part of an 80 year strategy by folks like him---gifted "representation" in land whose Marehan majority has been effectively politically disenfranchised from since the 1908 Italo-Abysslnnian treaty which defined Marehan as "Italian sphere."

That is when Shilaabo the village was created at the periphery of Shilaabo the historical Marehan region where the Abysinnian garrison looking at Shilaabo valley was on the far end of Shilabo---created there to try to "unlink" Marehan and Shilaabo "territory".

That objective has been in place for 80 years and it every bit a failure.

I am glad, however, he now understands there is nothing "shared" in this land.

Marehan are not in the village1/2 the size of Balanbale town referenced as "Shilabo" politically created 80 years ago from the Abysinnian garrison on the periphery of Shilaabo territory.

And you are not in 85% of the land/region/district/woreda called "Shilaabo territory" which the settlement you referenced purports to administer.

You are not in Fadhigaraadle or Lasacaanood because they are not even "shared" as you were incredibly ignorant off.

Do not implicate this distractive malaf again in another one of my discussions of my land and territory again. Thank you very much.

[Gubbet]

Fun fact, the Ugaasyo, or the ruling chiefs of Ogaden comes from a family called Bah Hawadle, a total of 11 clans, but only one of them rule, the reer Ugaas. Hawadle within the area mentioned go a lot further back than 18th century because the first of ugaas of the reer Ugaas would have existed around mid 1600s.

By the way, despite what some delusional folks on here may say, Shilaabo is far from being a shared town today. It's governor is MK, and both its deputy governor and mayor are Bahgeri. Don't believe the BS posted by online fkd warriors.

وشهد شاهد من اهلها

North Shilaabo makaahii South Shilaabo bahgari East Shilaabo Mx
Hawadle borders with Bahari from South and HG with MX from East.

War Shilaabo shaqo kuma lehid, HGtaad sheegeysidne are exactly like you talk about Cayr and the little island of Matabaan in Hiiraan exactly as you reference and even MORE ironically the one you are fake giggling for because of your kibir towards Mareexaan is exactly as you like to label Rer Aw Xassan in the Xaqsoor through the imposed relative "over ballooning" of "Feerfeer" as far as the territorial extent of "Hiiraan Region" is concerned.

What is wrong with these people?

You cannot even say Marehan do not live in Fadhigaraadle, Laasacaano, Juge, Axmed Gureey, Garasle, Goohwayne, XassanCawl, Booraancad, Balanbal Oomane, Kalafoge, Hareeri, Bali Jeex, Ina Ereg, etc.

You cannot even say anyone shares that with them as there is not a single location settled by Marehan on the central plateau "shared" with anyone apart from Galaadi and a Dudub towns.

Indo adkaa, a man who doesn't even "live" in the territory baa u camirayo a man who doesn't extend past few kilometers east of the road connecting Shilaabo and Warder settlements.

Altogether waxuu ku dhago hadlayaa a man own 85% of the territory in question! Hadooedine isaga hadii Hiiraan isla sidaas loosoo hadal qaado furka ayuu tuuranayaa! War yaa ilaahay yaqaan!

Mar dhaw, very soon, waan hubaa, when we conclude our reapproachment with Addis and overnight we see dictate flying express from Addis bestowing recognition on this land's historically CONTINUING inhabitants---markaas baa loo joogaa! Alxamdulilaah if I make this statement today of all days, waa maalinki iigu fiicneed in the 80 year existence of this problem. Waa ilaahay mahadiis ee inta kooban oo harsan camiraada iisii wad!

[eliteSomali]

Fun fact, the Ugaasyo, or the ruling chiefs of Ogaden comes from a family called Bah Hawadle, a total of 11 clans, but only one of them rule, the reer Ugaas. Hawadle within the area mentioned go a lot further back than 18th century because the first of ugaas of the reer Ugaas would have existed around mid 1600s.

By the way, despite what some delusional folks on here may say, Shilaabo is far from being a shared town today. It's governor is MK, and both its deputy governor and mayor are Bahgeri. Don't believe the BS posted by online fkd warriors.

You participated in the Garasle topic and showed recognition of what I very clearly stressed in that topic;

My previous statements about Shilaabo the settlement ("village") vs. Shilaabo the territory ("region").

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 3#p5034813

Basically, Marehan have never "desired" the "settlement" of Shilabo and nor is it really even important to the broader territory.

The settlement itself was originally very politically picked from the furthest part from Marehan in the larger territory and is peripheral or on the borderline of the "territory" of Shilaabo.

In many ways, "Balanbale" is the defacto capital of Shilaabo "territory", even if the settlement of Shilaabo has dejure authority. It is also the largest town; far larger than Shilabo settlement.

Shilaabo "settlement" is irrelevant as far as equity; Marehan has the bulk of the territory and is even resurging to retake all grazing lost.

And the settlement has not only been irrelevant but has had 0 value to Marehan--which is why it was picked from the periphery of the territory to begin with

Now since I did not mention Shilaabo the settlement/town (really a village to be honest 1/2 the size of Balanbale town) in this topic or in the past strictly having defined my claim as Shilaabo the "territory"---

[More clarification in that previous Garasle topic...]

Shilabo the settlement =/= Shilabo the territory

There has "never" been a Marehan "community" living in Shilaabo "settlement."

Shilaabo the settlement is barely even a "town." It is still for all practical intents a "village"------a politicized, created village to "Ogadenize" Shilabo territory like "Warder" was a politicized created village to "Ogadenize" Hawd.

In an ideal natural administrative organization, Balanbale would be the capital of a Shilabo "territory"---and they can call Shilabo "settlement" Doh or whatever else it really naturally implicates.


So the southern-most Marehan who did graze furthest in Shilabo "territory" in places such as Lababar and Baarmagoog---haven't even been able to settle in Shilabo "settlement"" because the bulk had a unique migration period out last triggered by the SSDF and Menguste capture of Balanbale and harrying Marehan throughout Shilabo "territory."

The point of this topic is celebration that they have returned back to grazing even previously retreated from zones in Shilaabo the "territory"---previously affected by actual emigration + unique political targeting.

---and since this individual has participated in previous topics where I clearly and unmistakeably clarified the difference with great detail---


[And even more clarification in that Garasle topic...]

• Marehan are not from Shilabo "settlement."
  • Shilabo "settlement" itself is peripheral to Shilabo "territory."
    • The settlement was historically established a ~100 years ago to politically "unlink" Marehan & Shilabo territory.
    • It was the Abysinnian garrison overlooking "Higloole" in the broader "Doh" or Doobawayn territory between Faf (Abysinnian garrison: Qabri Dahar) & Baaarey (Abysinnian garrison: Kelafo)
  • The settlement of "Shilabo" is at the border of historical Shilabo valley; it is really as much Shilaabo "territory" as Beled-Weyne is Mudug "territory" or Garowe is Waqooyi "territory."
• Marehan, however, are both from and are the absolute majority of Shilaabo "territory."
  • The "grazing" land is the "territory" is the gold, the diamond, and the silver. It is why Marehan even was or is still in "Shilabo."
    • The permanent wells of "Kabacad" (Laasocaano to Ceel Baxay ) are northern veins of Shilaabo territory.
    • The permanent wells of "Ernuune" (Garasle to Fadhigaraadle) are the central veins of Shilaabo territory.
    • The permanent wells of "Ceelgaab" (Ceel Habreed to Lababaar) are the southern veins of Shilaabo territory.
  • 2/3 of the permanent wells and 80% of the grazing land---which is the entire importance to Shilaabo---are in the hand of Marehan. [Kabacad + Ernuune]
    • 1/2 of the rest (southern Ceelgaab) no one uses since Marehan were expelled in 1982 (Ceel Hebreed wells) and is a no man's land (quite literally even ENDF will destroy any settlements or "berkad," or if they don't Marehan will; 12 Cayr berkeds have been destroyed between 2015-2021). [This borders Matabaan district of Hiiraan]
    • The other 1/2 that is left (northern Ceelgaab) is contested between Bah Geri and the Cayr whom they allowed to settle in the furthest part of where Marehan were expelled from in 1982 (Lababaar wells).[This is part of Feerfeer district bordering Shabelle River]

---why would this individual express resentment towards me creating a straw argument "By the way, despite what some delusional folks on here may say, Shilaabo is far from being a shared town today. ?

Why would he?

Because Shilaabo territory even today is majority---even overwhelmingly---still Marehan. It is not only that he is a "minority" in Shilaabo territory---he is even a very disproportionately "small" minority in a very disproportionately "small" part of Shilaabo territory.

That is why he leans on superficial distractions---as part of an 80 year strategy by folks like him---gifted "representation" in land whose Marehan majority has been effectively politically disenfranchised from since the 1908 Italo-Abysslnnian treaty which defined Marehan as "Italian sphere."

That is when Shilaabo the village was created at the periphery of Shilaabo the historical Marehan region where the Abysinnian garrison looking at Shilaabo valley was on the far end of Shilabo---created there to try to "unlink" Marehan and Shilaabo "territory".

That objective has been in place for 80 years and it every bit a failure.

I am glad, however, he now understands there is nothing "shared" in this land.

Marehan are not in the village1/2 the size of Balanbale town referenced as "Shilabo" politically created 80 years ago from the Abysinnian garrison on the periphery of Shilaabo territory.

And you are not in 85% of the land/region/district/woreda called "Shilaabo territory" which the settlement you referenced purports to administer.

You are not in Fadhigaraadle or Lasacaanood because they are not even "shared" as you were incredibly ignorant off.

Do not implicate this distractive malaf again in another one of my discussions of my land and territory again. Thank you very much.

First of all, kudos on you for unblocking me. While I have your attention, let me remind you that this is a public forum, and just as you share your opinions, others are allowed to as well. Keep that in mind before ranting at everyone who disagrees with you.

Now let me educate you a bit because you have shown time and time again that your knowledge of the lands you discuss in your essays comes from online. In the past I caught making up names for the 7 wells of dollo region and in there I corrected you and from that day, you have started to hate me, irrational!

Anyways, shilaabo is one of the 5 or 6 biggest districts in Somali Galbeed. Others include gashaamo, Geladi, and several others I can't remember now, so it's a massive district. Just like everwhere else, in Somali Galbeed, representation comes population distribution, the more population you have in a district, the more representation you get.

Gudoomiyaha shilaabo: Wacdi Yuusuf Warsame. waa nin Makaahiil muse gumacadle ah
Of the 3 mps from the district, 2 are Makahil and 1 is bahgeri.
This means Makahiil are the overwhelming majority, followed by Bahgeri which is why these two clans get all available representation of the district plus the mayorship. If as you claimed, marehan were majority, representation would reflect this. For example, Gashamo, Xarshin and Daror represented by Isaq as Bookh, Geladi and parts of wardheer are represented by Harti.

One last fact, Doollo region has 18 mps, marehan get just the 1, harti gets 7 and ogaden gets 10.
In Qorahay, which shilaabo is part of, the total number of mps is 23 and ogaden gets all 23, including the 3 from shilaabo.

These are facts anyone can look into by the way.


Finally, marehan as a clan have 3 mps in all of Galbeed out of 278. One comes from Geladi and two come from Liban zone.



You are welcome to ignore these facts and continue claiming Shilaabo and any other land that you want.

[eliteSomali]

Fun fact, the Ugaasyo, or the ruling chiefs of Ogaden comes from a family called Bah Hawadle, a total of 11 clans, but only one of them rule, the reer Ugaas. Hawadle within the area mentioned go a lot further back than 18th century because the first of ugaas of the reer Ugaas would have existed around mid 1600s.

By the way, despite what some delusional folks on here may say, Shilaabo is far from being a shared town today. It's governor is MK, and both its deputy governor and mayor are Bahgeri. Don't believe the BS posted by online fkd warriors.

وشهد شاهد من اهلها

North Shilaabo makaahii South Shilaabo bahgari East Shilaabo Mx
Hawadle borders with Bahari from South and HG with MX from East.

Sheekahdii ku qabso ku qadi maysidee yaa online loo soo raray. lmao!
That's the thing about the internet, you can say whatever the fuck you want.

[Gubbet]

Fun fact, the Ugaasyo, or the ruling chiefs of Ogaden comes from a family called Bah Hawadle, a total of 11 clans, but only one of them rule, the reer Ugaas. Hawadle within the area mentioned go a lot further back than 18th century because the first of ugaas of the reer Ugaas would have existed around mid 1600s.

By the way, despite what some delusional folks on here may say, Shilaabo is far from being a shared town today. It's governor is MK, and both its deputy governor and mayor are Bahgeri. Don't believe the BS posted by online fkd warriors.

You participated in the Garasle topic and showed recognition of what I very clearly stressed in that topic;

My previous statements about Shilaabo the settlement ("village") vs. Shilaabo the territory ("region").

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 3#p5034813

Basically, Marehan have never "desired" the "settlement" of Shilabo and nor is it really even important to the broader territory.

The settlement itself was originally very politically picked from the furthest part from Marehan in the larger territory and is peripheral or on the borderline of the "territory" of Shilaabo.

In many ways, "Balanbale" is the defacto capital of Shilaabo "territory", even if the settlement of Shilaabo has dejure authority. It is also the largest town; far larger than Shilabo settlement.

Shilaabo "settlement" is irrelevant as far as equity; Marehan has the bulk of the territory and is even resurging to retake all grazing lost.

And the settlement has not only been irrelevant but has had 0 value to Marehan--which is why it was picked from the periphery of the territory to begin with

Now since I did not mention Shilaabo the settlement/town (really a village to be honest 1/2 the size of Balanbale town) in this topic or in the past strictly having defined my claim as Shilaabo the "territory"---

[More clarification in that previous Garasle topic...]

Shilabo the settlement =/= Shilabo the territory

There has "never" been a Marehan "community" living in Shilaabo "settlement."

Shilaabo the settlement is barely even a "town." It is still for all practical intents a "village"------a politicized, created village to "Ogadenize" Shilabo territory like "Warder" was a politicized created village to "Ogadenize" Hawd.

In an ideal natural administrative organization, Balanbale would be the capital of a Shilabo "territory"---and they can call Shilabo "settlement" Doh or whatever else it really naturally implicates.


So the southern-most Marehan who did graze furthest in Shilabo "territory" in places such as Lababar and Baarmagoog---haven't even been able to settle in Shilabo "settlement"" because the bulk had a unique migration period out last triggered by the SSDF and Menguste capture of Balanbale and harrying Marehan throughout Shilabo "territory."

The point of this topic is celebration that they have returned back to grazing even previously retreated from zones in Shilaabo the "territory"---previously affected by actual emigration + unique political targeting.

---and since this individual has participated in previous topics where I clearly and unmistakeably clarified the difference with great detail---


[And even more clarification in that Garasle topic...]

• Marehan are not from Shilabo "settlement."
  • Shilabo "settlement" itself is peripheral to Shilabo "territory."
    • The settlement was historically established a ~100 years ago to politically "unlink" Marehan & Shilabo territory.
    • It was the Abysinnian garrison overlooking "Higloole" in the broader "Doh" or Doobawayn territory between Faf (Abysinnian garrison: Qabri Dahar) & Baaarey (Abysinnian garrison: Kelafo)
  • The settlement of "Shilabo" is at the border of historical Shilabo valley; it is really as much Shilaabo "territory" as Beled-Weyne is Mudug "territory" or Garowe is Waqooyi "territory."
• Marehan, however, are both from and are the absolute majority of Shilaabo "territory."
  • The "grazing" land is the "territory" is the gold, the diamond, and the silver. It is why Marehan even was or is still in "Shilabo."
    • The permanent wells of "Kabacad" (Laasocaano to Ceel Baxay ) are northern veins of Shilaabo territory.
    • The permanent wells of "Ernuune" (Garasle to Fadhigaraadle) are the central veins of Shilaabo territory.
    • The permanent wells of "Ceelgaab" (Ceel Habreed to Lababaar) are the southern veins of Shilaabo territory.
  • 2/3 of the permanent wells and 80% of the grazing land---which is the entire importance to Shilaabo---are in the hand of Marehan. [Kabacad + Ernuune]
    • 1/2 of the rest (southern Ceelgaab) no one uses since Marehan were expelled in 1982 (Ceel Hebreed wells) and is a no man's land (quite literally even ENDF will destroy any settlements or "berkad," or if they don't Marehan will; 12 Cayr berkeds have been destroyed between 2015-2021). [This borders Matabaan district of Hiiraan]
    • The other 1/2 that is left (northern Ceelgaab) is contested between Bah Geri and the Cayr whom they allowed to settle in the furthest part of where Marehan were expelled from in 1982 (Lababaar wells).[This is part of Feerfeer district bordering Shabelle River]

---why would this individual express resentment towards me creating a straw argument "By the way, despite what some delusional folks on here may say, Shilaabo is far from being a shared town today. ?

Why would he?

Because Shilaabo territory even today is majority---even overwhelmingly---still Marehan. It is not only that he is a "minority" in Shilaabo territory---he is even a very disproportionately "small" minority in a very disproportionately "small" part of Shilaabo territory.

That is why he leans on superficial distractions---as part of an 80 year strategy by folks like him---gifted "representation" in land whose Marehan majority has been effectively politically disenfranchised from since the 1908 Italo-Abysslnnian treaty which defined Marehan as "Italian sphere."

That is when Shilaabo the village was created at the periphery of Shilaabo the historical Marehan region where the Abysinnian garrison looking at Shilaabo valley was on the far end of Shilabo---created there to try to "unlink" Marehan and Shilaabo "territory".

That objective has been in place for 80 years and it every bit a failure.

I am glad, however, he now understands there is nothing "shared" in this land.

Marehan are not in the village1/2 the size of Balanbale town referenced as "Shilabo" politically created 80 years ago from the Abysinnian garrison on the periphery of Shilaabo territory.

And you are not in 85% of the land/region/district/woreda called "Shilaabo territory" which the settlement you referenced purports to administer.

You are not in Fadhigaraadle or Lasacaanood because they are not even "shared" as you were incredibly ignorant off.

Do not implicate this distractive malaf again in another one of my discussions of my land and territory again. Thank you very much.

First of all, kudos on you for unblocking me. While I have your attention, let me remind you that this is a public forum, and just as you share your opinions, others are allowed to as well. Keep that in mind before ranting at everyone who disagrees with you.

Now let me educate you a bit because you have shown time and time again that your knowledge of the lands you discuss in your essays comes from online. In the past I caught making up names for the 7 wells of dollo region and in there I corrected you and from that day, you have started to hate me, irrational!

Anyways, shilaabo is one of the 5 or 6 biggest districts in Somali Galbeed. Others include gashaamo, Geladi, and several others I can't remember now, so it's a massive district. Just like everwhere else, in Somali Galbeed, representation comes population distribution, the more population you have in a district, the more representation you get.

Gudoomiyaha shilaabo: Wacdi Yuusuf Warsame. waa nin Makaahiil muse gumacadle ah
Of the 3 mps from the district, 2 are Makahil and 1 is bahgeri.
This means Makahiil are the overwhelming majority, followed by Bahgeri which is why these two clans get all available representation of the district plus the mayorship. If as you claimed, marehan were majority, representation would reflect this. For example, Gashamo, Xarshin and Daror represented by Isaq as Bookh, Geladi and parts of wardheer are represented by Harti.

One last fact, Doollo region has 18 mps, marehan get just the 1, harti gets 7 and ogaden gets 10.
In Qorahay, which shilaabo is part of, the total number of mps is 23 and ogaden gets all 23, including the 3 from shilaabo.

These are facts anyone can look into by the way.


Finally, marehan as a clan have 3 mps in all of Galbeed out of 278. One comes from Geladi and two come from Liban zone.



You are welcome to ignore these facts and continue claiming Shilaabo and any other land that you want.

You need to go back to school. It is embarrassing for you that you cannot "critically read" at basic secondary school level

How about street language since you do not understand relatively intelligible English?

Fock your "MPs." They aint shit homie. You can "claim" to sit on whatever focking make believe chair in Jigjiga.

You not in "Fadhigaraadle" or "Laasacaano" or "Axmed Gureey," etc.

You not even a single foot east of "Caleen" closer to Qabridahare than it is to Balanbale. In fact, Fadhigaraadle is closer to Qabridahare than it is to Balanbale and border----and I am in Fadhigaraadle and everything east of it even past the border.

You sit on fake, superficial, make believe "seats" like a little toddler because of an 80 year old problem between Marehan and Ethiopia when the 1908 Italo-Abysinnian War labeled them "Italian Sphere."

Keep enjoying your toddler like make believe game because it is almost time for grown up pants when I conclude my discussions with Addis.

Already being the "only one" on this land to begin with.

Bah bye grifter!

You are not on this land no matter what childlike fantasy game you are in. I am in Fadhigaraadle, not you! I am in Garasle, not you!

[sahal80]

Fun fact, the Ugaasyo, or the ruling chiefs of Ogaden comes from a family called Bah Hawadle, a total of 11 clans, but only one of them rule, the reer Ugaas. Hawadle within the area mentioned go a lot further back than 18th century because the first of ugaas of the reer Ugaas would have existed around mid 1600s.

By the way, despite what some delusional folks on here may say, Shilaabo is far from being a shared town today. It's governor is MK, and both its deputy governor and mayor are Bahgeri. Don't believe the BS posted by online fkd warriors.

وشهد شاهد من اهلها

North Shilaabo makaahii South Shilaabo bahgari East Shilaabo Mx
Hawadle borders with Bahari from South and HG with MX from East.

Sheekahdii ku qabso ku qadi maysidee yaa online loo soo raray. lmao!
That's the thing about the internet, you can say whatever the fuck you want.

from Shilaabo town to Balanbale what a crazy guy meesha dhan waa iiga falaadey just to boost his mx Ego war ninkaan Nabad nagama dhaxeyn karto waa qac meeshiisa a imaado maxaa meesheyda soo galin. Yaa la heesta is qorqor badanaa anigu Dariskeyga OG baan ka hadley oo ceelka Shilaabo loogu wada yimid. Sxb waa Mahadsan tahay Thank you.

[Gubbet]

This guy and those of his ilk with that mindset are the definition of "manipulative predatio."

Please read the following concerning my experience traveling on this land recently and geocoding when I was left with incredible shock, even anger, that in hundreds of kilometersnof this land, the ONLY people, again the ONLY people you will find are "Marehan" and this manipulative predator has the galls to claim other people's home and in fact use it as legitimate argument for equity the fact he is sitting in a "seat" in Jigjiga allegedly representing land he is NOT in, was NOT chosen from, and is NOT a member of the continuing community SINGULARLY inhabiting it.

His grievenace is literally and figuratively "CLINICALLY" sociopathic.

You are absolutely correct which is why even sharing it is revolutionary. My perspective or the "Marehan" perspective over the land and territory to which they are implicated in the central plateau has been more attacked and silenced since colonialis,even targeted with "erasure," so much so that I participated in this forum myself as a Marehan and for 99% of my entire membership in this very forum, I logged in and found "nothing" that spectacularly wrong with Guhad122 writings and statements on this land until I walked on my own two feet and saw hundreds of kms of this land probably with no picture or video ever taken of it but in which you could not find a single human that was not Marehan except for spouses or relatives of the Marehan in the land.

Guhad122's "7 wells of Doollo" pitch was a regurgitated reference for a very, very, very clever reason. It was a predatory marketing scheme that transplanted Marehan ownership of 95% of the territory west of the road between Shilabo and Warder settlemrnts and subscribed it to Makaahiil who were in 5% of that territory.

For you see the "7 wells of Doollo," i.e. "Doollo Region", is merely a "locality" with a distance less than 20 mileson the road between Warder and Shilabo settlements.




Imagine the distance between Warder and Qabri Dahar settlements is the same distance between Caabudwaaq and Warder settlements. Between Warder-Qabri Dahar, Makaahiil shares that with practically the bulk of Rer Abdille, yet btw Caabudwaaq-Warder is almost entirely Marehan.

Imagine the distance between Warder and Shilabo settlements is the same distance between Saaxo and Warder. Between Warder-Shilabo, Makaahiil shares that with practically all of Bah Geri, yet btw Saaxo-Warder is almost entirely Marehan.

Guhad122 with his "7 Wells of Doollo" regurgitated whipped out like a Nazi Pass one's life depended on everytime Marehan equity was brought up in eastern Somali Region was the manipulative, but ingenious cold, calculating strategy of an evil genius. And he didn't even come up with it---they all respond that way which shows it was a strategy that was formed, designed, and handed to them.

Which is why following my geocoding experience in that land walking on it with my own two feet I declared war against"Doh" and "Doollo" predatory marketing schemes.

The land ain't "Doh" and "Doollo."

The land is focking "Buuro" and after a century, it is focking being said again.

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 5#p5036752

[eliteSomali]

وشهد شاهد من اهلها

North Shilaabo makaahii South Shilaabo bahgari East Shilaabo Mx
Hawadle borders with Bahari from South and HG with MX from East.

Sheekahdii ku qabso ku qadi maysidee yaa online loo soo raray. lmao!
That's the thing about the internet, you can say whatever the fuck you want.

from Shilaabo town to Balanbale what a crazy guy meesha dhan waa iiga falaadey just to boost his mx Ego war ninkaan Nabad nagama dhaxeyn karto waa qac meeshiisa a imaado maxaa meesheyda soo galin. Yaa la heesta is qorqor badanaa anigu Dariskeyga OG baan ka hadley oo ceelka Shilaabo loogu wada yimid. Sxb waa Mahadsan tahay Thank you.

It's hard trying to have a civil and reasonable discussions with an impulsive character like this guy. The guy is even claiming parts of shilaabo is considered "Hawd".
waxaad moodaa inuu indhaha xidho kadibna keyboardka faraha ku garaaco.

[eliteSomali]

You participated in the Garasle topic and showed recognition of what I very clearly stressed in that topic;

My previous statements about Shilaabo the settlement ("village") vs. Shilaabo the territory ("region").

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 3#p5034813




Now since I did not mention Shilaabo the settlement/town (really a village to be honest 1/2 the size of Balanbale town) in this topic or in the past strictly having defined my claim as Shilaabo the "territory"---

[More clarification in that previous Garasle topic...]



---and since this individual has participated in previous topics where I clearly and unmistakeably clarified the difference with great detail---


[And even more clarification in that Garasle topic...]



---why would this individual express resentment towards me creating a straw argument "By the way, despite what some delusional folks on here may say, Shilaabo is far from being a shared town today. ?

Why would he?

Because Shilaabo territory even today is majority---even overwhelmingly---still Marehan. It is not only that he is a "minority" in Shilaabo territory---he is even a very disproportionately "small" minority in a very disproportionately "small" part of Shilaabo territory.

That is why he leans on superficial distractions---as part of an 80 year strategy by folks like him---gifted "representation" in land whose Marehan majority has been effectively politically disenfranchised from since the 1908 Italo-Abysslnnian treaty which defined Marehan as "Italian sphere."

That is when Shilaabo the village was created at the periphery of Shilaabo the historical Marehan region where the Abysinnian garrison looking at Shilaabo valley was on the far end of Shilabo---created there to try to "unlink" Marehan and Shilaabo "territory".

That objective has been in place for 80 years and it every bit a failure.

I am glad, however, he now understands there is nothing "shared" in this land.

Marehan are not in the village1/2 the size of Balanbale town referenced as "Shilabo" politically created 80 years ago from the Abysinnian garrison on the periphery of Shilaabo territory.

And you are not in 85% of the land/region/district/woreda called "Shilaabo territory" which the settlement you referenced purports to administer.

You are not in Fadhigaraadle or Lasacaanood because they are not even "shared" as you were incredibly ignorant off.

Do not implicate this distractive malaf again in another one of my discussions of my land and territory again. Thank you very much.

First of all, kudos on you for unblocking me. While I have your attention, let me remind you that this is a public forum, and just as you share your opinions, others are allowed to as well. Keep that in mind before ranting at everyone who disagrees with you.

Now let me educate you a bit because you have shown time and time again that your knowledge of the lands you discuss in your essays comes from online. In the past I caught making up names for the 7 wells of dollo region and in there I corrected you and from that day, you have started to hate me, irrational!

Anyways, shilaabo is one of the 5 or 6 biggest districts in Somali Galbeed. Others include gashaamo, Geladi, and several others I can't remember now, so it's a massive district. Just like everwhere else, in Somali Galbeed, representation comes population distribution, the more population you have in a district, the more representation you get.

Gudoomiyaha shilaabo: Wacdi Yuusuf Warsame. waa nin Makaahiil muse gumacadle ah
Of the 3 mps from the district, 2 are Makahil and 1 is bahgeri.
This means Makahiil are the overwhelming majority, followed by Bahgeri which is why these two clans get all available representation of the district plus the mayorship. If as you claimed, marehan were majority, representation would reflect this. For example, Gashamo, Xarshin and Daror represented by Isaq as Bookh, Geladi and parts of wardheer are represented by Harti.

One last fact, Doollo region has 18 mps, marehan get just the 1, harti gets 7 and ogaden gets 10.
In Qorahay, which shilaabo is part of, the total number of mps is 23 and ogaden gets all 23, including the 3 from shilaabo.

These are facts anyone can look into by the way.


Finally, marehan as a clan have 3 mps in all of Galbeed out of 278. One comes from Geladi and two come from Liban zone.



You are welcome to ignore these facts and continue claiming Shilaabo and any other land that you want.

You need to go back to school. It is embarrassing for you that you cannot "critically read" at basic secondary school level

How about street language since you do not understand relatively intelligible English?

Fock your "MPs." They aint shit homie. You can "claim" to sit on whatever focking make believe chair in Jigjiga.

You not in "Fadhigaraadle" or "Laasacaano" or "Axmed Gureey," etc.

You not even a single foot east of "Caleen" closer to Qabridahare than it is to Balanbale. In fact, Fadhigaraadle is closer to Qabridahare than it is to Balanbale and border----and I am in Fadhigaraadle and everything east of it even past the border.

You sit on fake, superficial, make believe "seats" like a little toddler because of an 80 year old problem between Marehan and Ethiopia when the 1908 Italo-Abysinnian War labeled them "Italian Sphere."

Keep enjoying your toddler like make believe game because it is almost time for grown up pants when I conclude my discussions with Addis.

Already being the "only one" on this land to begin with.

Bah bye grifter!

You are not on this land no matter what childlike fantasy game you are in. I am in Fadhigaraadle, not you! I am in Garasle, not you!

That's your reality. Stop making up stuff online. It does nothing for you in real life.

[Gubbet]

وشهد شاهد من اهلها

North Shilaabo makaahii South Shilaabo bahgari East Shilaabo Mx
Hawadle borders with Bahari from South and HG with MX from East.

Sheekahdii ku qabso ku qadi maysidee yaa online loo soo raray. lmao!
That's the thing about the internet, you can say whatever the fuck you want.

from Shilaabo town to Balanbale what a crazy guy meesha dhan waa iiga falaadey just to boost his mx Ego war ninkaan Nabad nagama dhaxeyn karto waa qac meeshiisa a imaado maxaa meesheyda soo galin. Yaa la heesta is qorqor badanaa anigu Dariskeyga OG baan ka hadley oo ceelka Shilaabo loogu wada yimid. Sxb waa Mahadsan tahay Thank you.

You know what is so beautiful about poetic justice?

Karma.

For years, no one on this board, even before Farmajo government, asskissed Cayr---actually scratch that---ass kissed any clan who wasn't their clan like you asskissed Cayr.

And you did targeting Marehan in general and Reer Balanbale in particular.

I would even wager a pretty penny that you started more "Balanbale" topics per individual forum member than any other single person even more than myself, at least if you take out the last 6 months.

You targeted Balanbale town consistently, predictably, and even habitually with the same nauseating asskissing of the clan I mentioned above.

Today---after a 100 years of trying, there is no one in Balanbale but myself and that clan is protesting usage of "Rer Balanbale vs Rer Guriceel" having given up all hope of ever possessing Balanbale.

Yet, that same clan "conquered" Matabaan from you in a bloodbath so vicious "Matabaan Garoore" is etched into both of your oral histories with the vividness of a tattoo artist's needle.

That clash almost destroyed you and you barely survived as a seriously wounded man.

But incredibly and even shockingly, that clan has come after you in the only settlement you claim alone---Maxaas---and has all but started firing at you ala "Matabaan Garoore II" style.

Xin, xumaan, xishood la'aan---XASAD was the only thing you have ever shown Rer Balanbale, of whom I am, and that is the ONLY thing that implicates both why you would even start this topic and the craven, thinly disguised resentment you show Reer Balanbale who are in fact interchangeable with "Reer Shilaabood" owning 85% of their historical territory even today.

Xasad because Cayr almost mortally wounded you when they took Matabaan from you and have come after you today in Maxaas for bahdil.

Xasad for Rer Balanbale and asskissing for your abusers because Balanbale is an impenetrable fortress and cannot (nor does it care ti) preoccupy the attention of Matabaan Garoore's conquerors to distract them from having taken it or for that matter of trying to start the process of taking Maxaas.

"HG buu buu, btw MX in 'east Shilabo'", "Garasle baa baa, HG there 'with' MX"

HG who in a very thin island of "south" Feerfeer district of Gode Zone are not in "east or north or west" of Shilaabo with MX and nor is any other community with MX in Garasle.

HG are in Matabaan Garoore having viciously conquered it through a bloodbath and they are in Maxaas today---all with you.