The emergence of Jeberti irregularity and the Gaal Madow wars

[Ghiklo]

Yep, this is clearly happening if it didn't happen. I also thought this was the case from the moment i saw why they were so interested in these tests. Some results from their group might not even be uploaded. And I do think they would do foul play because they hate other clans even if darood was not a E-Y163949 majority. Cuqdad is really a mental disease.

When your bro was getting all personal and basically calling my clan fake Daaroods, did I cry cuqdad? Dfkm, he even called me a boy. There are plenty of non-MJs on Anthrogenica who commented on that Garre/ Hawrarsame guy's results. I just missed the posts where a MX guy cleared it up.

This is what I mean by insecurity. Again, if I wanted to insult you guys, I could go a lot harder. A Gabooye claiming Dhulbahante woman runs the SDP project.

Dude please spare us. No one called your clan fake darood. Gubbet even explained that darood is real and exists and we can't claim someone is not darood because his sub-clade is different. Same for isaaq in previous topic.
Besides, you're the one who out of nowhere claimed mx are 5% oromo which again the sub-clade of the guy is not even oromo. If you don't have your facts right don't make wild claims. What you're doing is using your subclade to exclude others who don't have it from the darood name even claiming they incorporated oromo. That's not nice now, is it?

We don't really care if you insult mx more or make entire threads but misinformation and wild claims will get fact-checked.

I have literally zero bias. I have already called E-Y163949 the Daarood clan DNA marker countless times on this forum. It is very telling that you guys only responded to me and not the Isaaq user (Khalid) who was insinuating your Hiraabu Goita was Oromo. The funny thing is I used DNA because I couldn't find a way to explain that name.

The rest of your post deserves no response. Don't accuse me of something I haven't done.

[Ciyaalweero]

Four things daroods never can explain
Why the marexaan chief of the darood is called goyte xirabe theodorus a clear habesha orthodox name

How come the dhulbahante daroods trace 24. To darood and their supposed harti brothers mj trace over 40 to darood some one is clearly lying about their geneology abtirsi or they are not just related

Why do darood have habarti jidwaaq siwaaroon cabuudwaaq. A clear Oromo god in their abtirisi

And. Last but not least why do Oromo have the same ancestral names such as daroods kablalax and koombe

It is a compromised abtirsi line but the most important thing is that they are a clan confederation and not a clan based on bloodline lineages example the Sade has clearly no leak to the others of Kablalax meaning it was confederated into them

[Thecoolguysomali]

Darood has been proven genetically and through abtirsi. Garaad Hirabu was a nick name made by Ethiopia, his real name is Was Garaad Hiraabe ibn Garaad Aden ibn Mataan Ciis, clealry Somali muslim names. Mareexan were an emirate in Adal and ruled the kingdom.

[Thecoolguysomali]

Also Goyta is a title which was used to identify the head of a specific region sort of like a Duke

[Thecoolguysomali]

There is alot of irregularity surrounding the Jeberti abtirsi both in the historical records and in the movement of people records but honestly in my opinion it is one of the easiest irregularities to understand.

the short version of the answer is that Jeberti consists of newly converts starting from the late 15-century upto early 1600s and it coincides with the Gaal madow wars. The invention of Jeberti was done as mercy to both the Xaamar Samaale elite who wanted to have a defense line deep into Ethiopia and Oromo territory so that they won't threaten the Samaale kingdom borders from Mudug to Kismayo and these separate kingdom in the north.

Does this names sound to you like anything else but Oromo?

1 KOOMBE
2 KABLLALAX
3 TANADE
4 KUMADE
5 ABASKUUL
6 JIIDWAAQ
7 CABUUDWAAQ
8 SUHURLE
9 GHERI
10 TAGAL
11 WAK
12 KASKAGABLE
13 HINIJIE
14 TINEH

Kombe Kablalah are still in Oromo subclans still intact with original lineage which the others split from.
https://i.ibb.co/JRWcnr6/IMG-20220208-150846.jpg

If you look at the records of peoples movements and historical records Jebertis are not present and clearly they are not semites this much we know due to their bloodline being E-V32 but still related to us but they are not samaale either just further relative the Oromo are our brothers who ventured to the southern ethiopian plains much earlier and accepted Islam much later then the others by the late 1500s.

Cabuudwaaq was an Oromo holy city of sorts and to this day it is inhabited by same people who inhabited 1000 years ago.

If you look at this map it shows that Oromia borders Gedo


If you go back 1000 years before the Samaales even conquered or ventured to the South the Oromo's were located exactly where the Marehan are located today in Gedo and were fighting the Tunnis who themselves are distant relatives to the Oromos who intermixed with Persians and other elements and spoke the Tunni langauge.

Warday Treaty
The Warday Oromo clan under King Brawt crossed the Jubba river and invaded the Tunni Sultanate. They were defeated and driven back where the fight finally ended with another alliance that was signed in Jumbo the place now known as Gobweyn, between the Tunni and the Gala Warday. After the treaty was signed, the Tunni settled on the west bank of the Jubba River, and the Warday settle on the opposite side of the river, which was the east bank. These two zones were known as Khad Tunni and Khad Gala (Tunni limit and Wardey limit). The land was also divided into three sections. One portion for the Tunni, another section for the Gala Warday, and the third portion was designated no man's land and was left for grazing. No groups were allowed to go beyond their boundary; both clans lived that way for 300 years

This happened before the Samaales conquered the territories. The Oromo and Tunnis were fighting over the Jubboyinka and famously entered into something called the ''Warday treaty''

Samaale annexed the Tunnis once they conquered the territories running all the way from Mudug to Kismayo and pushed out the Oromo from Jubboyinka and into Gedo which didn't come under Samaale rule until few centuries later.

Now here comes the really meaty part.

As you may know the heyday of the Samaale coincides with the Islamic expansion happening all over the world and one tradition that was occuring allover the place was that the invaded majority of the times assimilated and in some cases the invaders assimilated into that culture.

And the case was the same in the horn just like the Middle east, South east asia etc etc where entire nations were arabized like Syria, entire Sham, Iraq, Egypt and the whole North Africa and Sudan.

In some cases the Turks have done the same and in other cases the turks assimilated into the cultures of these they conquered.

The galla were fierce opponents more so then the peace loving Habashi's who just remained on a small territory in the highlands but the Galla were constantly expanding and it was only a matter of time they would collide with an ever expanding Samaale something had to give.

During the early 1500s the Gaal Madow wars began which was an extensive campaign that lasted for decades and relentless all the way to Gambelle region which is the furthest of Ethiopia. The Galla were defeated soundly and entered a short period of enslavement but as many invaded nations they converted in masses. especially at the beginning in the eastern parts and everyone who converted came to this part and to somalia itself.

Braukamper, Ulrich; Braukämper, Ulrich (2002). Islamic History and Culture in Southern Ethiopia: Collected Essays. LIT Verlag Münster. p. 155. ISBN 978-3-8258-5671-7.
The most famous Somali scholar of Islam from the Ajuraan period is Sheikh Hussein, who was born in Merca, one of the power jurisdiction and cultural centers of the Ajuran Empire.[48] He is credited with converting the Sidamo people living in the area of what is now the Bale Province, Ethiopia to Islam. He is also credited with establishing the Sultanate of Bale. Despite the Bale Sultanate not being directly under Ajuran rule, the two kingdoms were deeply connected and Bale was heavily influenced by Ajuran.

His tomb lies in the town of Sheikh Hussein in what is the most sacred place in the country for Ethiopian Muslims mostly Oromo Muslims

Someone who is Samaale can via historical movement, DNA and cultural traditions trace himself back to ancient Egypt and is of mediterranean admixture not Semite admixture because they are not short but tall and have facial Cranium similar to them whereas the only semite admixture is the Amxarro since due to Queen Sheba era where semites and sub-saharan's mixed to create a new race aka Habashi who are easy to spot as they are shorter like yemenis and have different features with Semite admixture as you may know all the remaining cushitics in the horn are of Meditteranean admixture and have different build which is taller and features. As for the Samaale they have traceibility - Ancient Egypt to Aksum to splitting into Awdal and Ajuran which later was succeed by Hiraab Imamate.

Somalis use this oath often when they mean something ''Ab iyo Isir'' and they say we are descandants of Awsar and Isir which is correct statement without technically knowing who they are but just from father to son they still say we are the descandants of Awsar and Isir but 99% of the somalis don't know who Awsar and Isir are technically but just passed down to them from generation to generation and they are the father and mother of the Ancient Egyptians written on the walls. The westerners call them osiris and isis which is not the correct name but the westernized name but in it's pure form on the walls of pyramids it is written exctly like Awsar and Isir. E-V32 is direct descandant of E-V12 meaning E-V12 gave birth to E-V32 meaning it is basically E-V12 with additional mutations.

They even have some still remaining pagan stuff called ''Sar'' where woman dance and say come down 'Sar'' Because the Ancient Egyptians and pre-berbers somalis who were none muslims still believed that Awsar and Isir have assumed control over the world of the dead and spirits which is exactly what is written about them on the walls.

According Herodotus the father of history says in his book: That during the Assyrian invasion of Egypt in 673 BCE to 663 BCE that 200.000 Ancient Egyptians fled south following the nile river southwards. This was 2600 years ago and these group of people settled in what came to be known as Axum simply called as the kingdom of Aksum which is where the Samaales come from and to this day reside in most of it.



Now here comes the solving of the puzzle where does the Jeberti comes from as they are not semites? unlike the Habashis who are actully semites due to alot of intermixing in Queen Sheba's time nor Samaale? the puzzle gets more intriguing.

The answer is simple..

First of all I would like to clarify that they are Somali thru and thru and have intermarried for 3-4 centuries including have become Somali 400 centuries nearly 500 centuries ago.

became great people and assilimated. They have done good on the land after that period to the point where they became rulers of Awdal some of them.

As for the Jeberti abtirsi it was Mercy both for them who assimilated and for the Xamaar Samaale elite and Hiraab as splitting the Galla forever would have been viewed as far lasting security assurance at that moment in history because now the Ogaden were guarding the empires borders and the Galla had no more borders with them anymore by simply making or helping these who left behind their beliefs to change their abtirsi accordingly this killed two birds with one stone they were happily accepted into the somali society and easily assimilated in a Samaale dominated world without facing discrimination but had they still kept their Oromo genelogy they would have faced alot of prejudice as the Galla Oromo was hated fiercely by the Samaale public opinion back then due to the wars and theft happening in their territories which was unsafe for a samaale to travel there they just hated their guts but since the Gaal madow wars everything changed.. Where Samaale garrisons didn't need to be stationed there anymore as kablalah has now broken free and didn't even share anymore same genelogy and lineage with the Galla and their threat was completely gone it turned into a strong alliance with Kablalah where they just could now arm Kablalah to carry on the Jihad who were strong enough for the job. No Somali would want to change his abtirsi as that is basically his passport but it can only happen if it was extremely necessary situation like this one.

These who assimilated became somali intellectuals themselves and are Somalis thru and thru not to forget the Oromo themselves are our relatives hence look wise and everything checks hence it was an easy assimilation and took approx only 5-6 generations like 120 years First via Deen and then culture. They have entered into the history books as somalis a century after that. They became leaders in Ogadenia further converted many more galla and eventually all of them and have given birth to many mujahideens

Hutu, Darood is proven through DNA and lineage, there were dozens of hutus who had jareer haplogroups and T haplogroup claiming hg and abg, you are the outliers lmao, if hutus were actually Somali we would see many of them matching and appearing on YFULL. Out of the many hutus tested, only 2 of them matched, an abg and hg with a TMRCA of 950 years ago, according to their abtirsi, hiraab is a very recent young clan so they should have matched a few hundred years ago, but in reality it's even older than Darood showing their lineage is corrupt. Hutus are getting nilotic and jareer haplogroups and you have the audacity to write all this babble about us. This shows your tribe is filled with random sheegads.

[Ciyaalweero]

There is alot of irregularity surrounding the Jeberti abtirsi both in the historical records and in the movement of people records but honestly in my opinion it is one of the easiest irregularities to understand.

the short version of the answer is that Jeberti consists of newly converts starting from the late 15-century upto early 1600s and it coincides with the Gaal madow wars. The invention of Jeberti was done as mercy to both the Xaamar Samaale elite who wanted to have a defense line deep into Ethiopia and Oromo territory so that they won't threaten the Samaale kingdom borders from Mudug to Kismayo and these separate kingdom in the north.

Does this names sound to you like anything else but Oromo?

1 KOOMBE
2 KABLLALAX
3 TANADE
4 KUMADE
5 ABASKUUL
6 JIIDWAAQ
7 CABUUDWAAQ
8 SUHURLE
9 GHERI
10 TAGAL
11 WAK
12 KASKAGABLE
13 HINIJIE
14 TINEH

Kombe Kablalah are still in Oromo subclans still intact with original lineage which the others split from.
https://i.ibb.co/JRWcnr6/IMG-20220208-150846.jpg

If you look at the records of peoples movements and historical records Jebertis are not present and clearly they are not semites this much we know due to their bloodline being E-V32 but still related to us but they are not samaale either just further relative the Oromo are our brothers who ventured to the southern ethiopian plains much earlier and accepted Islam much later then the others by the late 1500s.

Cabuudwaaq was an Oromo holy city of sorts and to this day it is inhabited by same people who inhabited 1000 years ago.

If you look at this map it shows that Oromia borders Gedo


If you go back 1000 years before the Samaales even conquered or ventured to the South the Oromo's were located exactly where the Marehan are located today in Gedo and were fighting the Tunnis who themselves are distant relatives to the Oromos who intermixed with Persians and other elements and spoke the Tunni langauge.

Warday Treaty
The Warday Oromo clan under King Brawt crossed the Jubba river and invaded the Tunni Sultanate. They were defeated and driven back where the fight finally ended with another alliance that was signed in Jumbo the place now known as Gobweyn, between the Tunni and the Gala Warday. After the treaty was signed, the Tunni settled on the west bank of the Jubba River, and the Warday settle on the opposite side of the river, which was the east bank. These two zones were known as Khad Tunni and Khad Gala (Tunni limit and Wardey limit). The land was also divided into three sections. One portion for the Tunni, another section for the Gala Warday, and the third portion was designated no man's land and was left for grazing. No groups were allowed to go beyond their boundary; both clans lived that way for 300 years

This happened before the Samaales conquered the territories. The Oromo and Tunnis were fighting over the Jubboyinka and famously entered into something called the ''Warday treaty''

Samaale annexed the Tunnis once they conquered the territories running all the way from Mudug to Kismayo and pushed out the Oromo from Jubboyinka and into Gedo which didn't come under Samaale rule until few centuries later.

Now here comes the really meaty part.

As you may know the heyday of the Samaale coincides with the Islamic expansion happening all over the world and one tradition that was occuring allover the place was that the invaded majority of the times assimilated and in some cases the invaders assimilated into that culture.

And the case was the same in the horn just like the Middle east, South east asia etc etc where entire nations were arabized like Syria, entire Sham, Iraq, Egypt and the whole North Africa and Sudan.

In some cases the Turks have done the same and in other cases the turks assimilated into the cultures of these they conquered.

The galla were fierce opponents more so then the peace loving Habashi's who just remained on a small territory in the highlands but the Galla were constantly expanding and it was only a matter of time they would collide with an ever expanding Samaale something had to give.

During the early 1500s the Gaal Madow wars began which was an extensive campaign that lasted for decades and relentless all the way to Gambelle region which is the furthest of Ethiopia. The Galla were defeated soundly and entered a short period of enslavement but as many invaded nations they converted in masses. especially at the beginning in the eastern parts and everyone who converted came to this part and to somalia itself.

Braukamper, Ulrich; Braukämper, Ulrich (2002). Islamic History and Culture in Southern Ethiopia: Collected Essays. LIT Verlag Münster. p. 155. ISBN 978-3-8258-5671-7.
The most famous Somali scholar of Islam from the Ajuraan period is Sheikh Hussein, who was born in Merca, one of the power jurisdiction and cultural centers of the Ajuran Empire.[48] He is credited with converting the Sidamo people living in the area of what is now the Bale Province, Ethiopia to Islam. He is also credited with establishing the Sultanate of Bale. Despite the Bale Sultanate not being directly under Ajuran rule, the two kingdoms were deeply connected and Bale was heavily influenced by Ajuran.

His tomb lies in the town of Sheikh Hussein in what is the most sacred place in the country for Ethiopian Muslims mostly Oromo Muslims

Someone who is Samaale can via historical movement, DNA and cultural traditions trace himself back to ancient Egypt and is of mediterranean admixture not Semite admixture because they are not short but tall and have facial Cranium similar to them whereas the only semite admixture is the Amxarro since due to Queen Sheba era where semites and sub-saharan's mixed to create a new race aka Habashi who are easy to spot as they are shorter like yemenis and have different features with Semite admixture as you may know all the remaining cushitics in the horn are of Meditteranean admixture and have different build which is taller and features. As for the Samaale they have traceibility - Ancient Egypt to Aksum to splitting into Awdal and Ajuran which later was succeed by Hiraab Imamate.

Somalis use this oath often when they mean something ''Ab iyo Isir'' and they say we are descandants of Awsar and Isir which is correct statement without technically knowing who they are but just from father to son they still say we are the descandants of Awsar and Isir but 99% of the somalis don't know who Awsar and Isir are technically but just passed down to them from generation to generation and they are the father and mother of the Ancient Egyptians written on the walls. The westerners call them osiris and isis which is not the correct name but the westernized name but in it's pure form on the walls of pyramids it is written exctly like Awsar and Isir. E-V32 is direct descandant of E-V12 meaning E-V12 gave birth to E-V32 meaning it is basically E-V12 with additional mutations.

They even have some still remaining pagan stuff called ''Sar'' where woman dance and say come down 'Sar'' Because the Ancient Egyptians and pre-berbers somalis who were none muslims still believed that Awsar and Isir have assumed control over the world of the dead and spirits which is exactly what is written about them on the walls.

According Herodotus the father of history says in his book: That during the Assyrian invasion of Egypt in 673 BCE to 663 BCE that 200.000 Ancient Egyptians fled south following the nile river southwards. This was 2600 years ago and these group of people settled in what came to be known as Axum simply called as the kingdom of Aksum which is where the Samaales come from and to this day reside in most of it.



Now here comes the solving of the puzzle where does the Jeberti comes from as they are not semites? unlike the Habashis who are actully semites due to alot of intermixing in Queen Sheba's time nor Samaale? the puzzle gets more intriguing.

The answer is simple..

First of all I would like to clarify that they are Somali thru and thru and have intermarried for 3-4 centuries including have become Somali 400 centuries nearly 500 centuries ago.

became great people and assilimated. They have done good on the land after that period to the point where they became rulers of Awdal some of them.

As for the Jeberti abtirsi it was Mercy both for them who assimilated and for the Xamaar Samaale elite and Hiraab as splitting the Galla forever would have been viewed as far lasting security assurance at that moment in history because now the Ogaden were guarding the empires borders and the Galla had no more borders with them anymore by simply making or helping these who left behind their beliefs to change their abtirsi accordingly this killed two birds with one stone they were happily accepted into the somali society and easily assimilated in a Samaale dominated world without facing discrimination but had they still kept their Oromo genelogy they would have faced alot of prejudice as the Galla Oromo was hated fiercely by the Samaale public opinion back then due to the wars and theft happening in their territories which was unsafe for a samaale to travel there they just hated their guts but since the Gaal madow wars everything changed.. Where Samaale garrisons didn't need to be stationed there anymore as kablalah has now broken free and didn't even share anymore same genelogy and lineage with the Galla and their threat was completely gone it turned into a strong alliance with Kablalah where they just could now arm Kablalah to carry on the Jihad who were strong enough for the job. No Somali would want to change his abtirsi as that is basically his passport but it can only happen if it was extremely necessary situation like this one.

These who assimilated became somali intellectuals themselves and are Somalis thru and thru not to forget the Oromo themselves are our relatives hence look wise and everything checks hence it was an easy assimilation and took approx only 5-6 generations like 120 years First via Deen and then culture. They have entered into the history books as somalis a century after that. They became leaders in Ogadenia further converted many more galla and eventually all of them and have given birth to many mujahideens

Hutu, Darood is proven through DNA and lineage, there were dozens of hutus who had jareer haplogroups and T haplogroup claiming hg and abg, you are the outliers lmao, if hutus were actually Somali we would see many of them matching and appearing on YFULL. Out of the many hutus tested, only 2 of them matched, an abg and hg with a TMRCA of 950 years ago, according to their abtirsi, hiraab is a very recent young clan so they should have matched a few hundred years ago, but in reality it's even older than Darood showing their lineage is corrupt. Hutus are getting nilotic and jareer haplogroups and you have the audacity to write all this babble about us. This shows your tribe is filled with random sheegads.

HAG is mainly clustered around Central Somalia and are by definition a central Somalian DNA cluster from the Haplogroup E-V32 which is cushitic. The only tribe that has of any jareer DNA proven is these from the further down south and that is in Gedo Region Marehan have approx 5% which is of small percentage due to perhaps assimilation we don''t intermix Jareer nor marry them nor Midgaan that is just our xeer. Hence no reported of such but within Marehan there were nilotic haplogroup but not saying all of Marehan is that could have been few incidents they are by definition bordering Kenya and the true southerners are Darood not Hawiye who are enitrely Central based there is traceability geography confirms that they are Central based exclusively

[Thecoolguysomali]

There is alot of irregularity surrounding the Jeberti abtirsi both in the historical records and in the movement of people records but honestly in my opinion it is one of the easiest irregularities to understand.

the short version of the answer is that Jeberti consists of newly converts starting from the late 15-century upto early 1600s and it coincides with the Gaal madow wars. The invention of Jeberti was done as mercy to both the Xaamar Samaale elite who wanted to have a defense line deep into Ethiopia and Oromo territory so that they won't threaten the Samaale kingdom borders from Mudug to Kismayo and these separate kingdom in the north.

Does this names sound to you like anything else but Oromo?

1 KOOMBE
2 KABLLALAX
3 TANADE
4 KUMADE
5 ABASKUUL
6 JIIDWAAQ
7 CABUUDWAAQ
8 SUHURLE
9 GHERI
10 TAGAL
11 WAK
12 KASKAGABLE
13 HINIJIE
14 TINEH

Kombe Kablalah are still in Oromo subclans still intact with original lineage which the others split from.
https://i.ibb.co/JRWcnr6/IMG-20220208-150846.jpg

If you look at the records of peoples movements and historical records Jebertis are not present and clearly they are not semites this much we know due to their bloodline being E-V32 but still related to us but they are not samaale either just further relative the Oromo are our brothers who ventured to the southern ethiopian plains much earlier and accepted Islam much later then the others by the late 1500s.

Cabuudwaaq was an Oromo holy city of sorts and to this day it is inhabited by same people who inhabited 1000 years ago.

If you look at this map it shows that Oromia borders Gedo


If you go back 1000 years before the Samaales even conquered or ventured to the South the Oromo's were located exactly where the Marehan are located today in Gedo and were fighting the Tunnis who themselves are distant relatives to the Oromos who intermixed with Persians and other elements and spoke the Tunni langauge.



This happened before the Samaales conquered the territories. The Oromo and Tunnis were fighting over the Jubboyinka and famously entered into something called the ''Warday treaty''

Samaale annexed the Tunnis once they conquered the territories running all the way from Mudug to Kismayo and pushed out the Oromo from Jubboyinka and into Gedo which didn't come under Samaale rule until few centuries later.

Now here comes the really meaty part.

As you may know the heyday of the Samaale coincides with the Islamic expansion happening all over the world and one tradition that was occuring allover the place was that the invaded majority of the times assimilated and in some cases the invaders assimilated into that culture.

And the case was the same in the horn just like the Middle east, South east asia etc etc where entire nations were arabized like Syria, entire Sham, Iraq, Egypt and the whole North Africa and Sudan.

In some cases the Turks have done the same and in other cases the turks assimilated into the cultures of these they conquered.

The galla were fierce opponents more so then the peace loving Habashi's who just remained on a small territory in the highlands but the Galla were constantly expanding and it was only a matter of time they would collide with an ever expanding Samaale something had to give.

During the early 1500s the Gaal Madow wars began which was an extensive campaign that lasted for decades and relentless all the way to Gambelle region which is the furthest of Ethiopia. The Galla were defeated soundly and entered a short period of enslavement but as many invaded nations they converted in masses. especially at the beginning in the eastern parts and everyone who converted came to this part and to somalia itself.




Someone who is Samaale can via historical movement, DNA and cultural traditions trace himself back to ancient Egypt and is of mediterranean admixture not Semite admixture because they are not short but tall and have facial Cranium similar to them whereas the only semite admixture is the Amxarro since due to Queen Sheba era where semites and sub-saharan's mixed to create a new race aka Habashi who are easy to spot as they are shorter like yemenis and have different features with Semite admixture as you may know all the remaining cushitics in the horn are of Meditteranean admixture and have different build which is taller and features. As for the Samaale they have traceibility - Ancient Egypt to Aksum to splitting into Awdal and Ajuran which later was succeed by Hiraab Imamate.

Somalis use this oath often when they mean something ''Ab iyo Isir'' and they say we are descandants of Awsar and Isir which is correct statement without technically knowing who they are but just from father to son they still say we are the descandants of Awsar and Isir but 99% of the somalis don't know who Awsar and Isir are technically but just passed down to them from generation to generation and they are the father and mother of the Ancient Egyptians written on the walls. The westerners call them osiris and isis which is not the correct name but the westernized name but in it's pure form on the walls of pyramids it is written exctly like Awsar and Isir. E-V32 is direct descandant of E-V12 meaning E-V12 gave birth to E-V32 meaning it is basically E-V12 with additional mutations.

They even have some still remaining pagan stuff called ''Sar'' where woman dance and say come down 'Sar'' Because the Ancient Egyptians and pre-berbers somalis who were none muslims still believed that Awsar and Isir have assumed control over the world of the dead and spirits which is exactly what is written about them on the walls.

According Herodotus the father of history says in his book: That during the Assyrian invasion of Egypt in 673 BCE to 663 BCE that 200.000 Ancient Egyptians fled south following the nile river southwards. This was 2600 years ago and these group of people settled in what came to be known as Axum simply called as the kingdom of Aksum which is where the Samaales come from and to this day reside in most of it.



Now here comes the solving of the puzzle where does the Jeberti comes from as they are not semites? unlike the Habashis who are actully semites due to alot of intermixing in Queen Sheba's time nor Samaale? the puzzle gets more intriguing.

The answer is simple..

First of all I would like to clarify that they are Somali thru and thru and have intermarried for 3-4 centuries including have become Somali 400 centuries nearly 500 centuries ago.

became great people and assilimated. They have done good on the land after that period to the point where they became rulers of Awdal some of them.

As for the Jeberti abtirsi it was Mercy both for them who assimilated and for the Xamaar Samaale elite and Hiraab as splitting the Galla forever would have been viewed as far lasting security assurance at that moment in history because now the Ogaden were guarding the empires borders and the Galla had no more borders with them anymore by simply making or helping these who left behind their beliefs to change their abtirsi accordingly this killed two birds with one stone they were happily accepted into the somali society and easily assimilated in a Samaale dominated world without facing discrimination but had they still kept their Oromo genelogy they would have faced alot of prejudice as the Galla Oromo was hated fiercely by the Samaale public opinion back then due to the wars and theft happening in their territories which was unsafe for a samaale to travel there they just hated their guts but since the Gaal madow wars everything changed.. Where Samaale garrisons didn't need to be stationed there anymore as kablalah has now broken free and didn't even share anymore same genelogy and lineage with the Galla and their threat was completely gone it turned into a strong alliance with Kablalah where they just could now arm Kablalah to carry on the Jihad who were strong enough for the job. No Somali would want to change his abtirsi as that is basically his passport but it can only happen if it was extremely necessary situation like this one.

These who assimilated became somali intellectuals themselves and are Somalis thru and thru not to forget the Oromo themselves are our relatives hence look wise and everything checks hence it was an easy assimilation and took approx only 5-6 generations like 120 years First via Deen and then culture. They have entered into the history books as somalis a century after that. They became leaders in Ogadenia further converted many more galla and eventually all of them and have given birth to many mujahideens

Hutu, Darood is proven through DNA and lineage, there were dozens of hutus who had jareer haplogroups and T haplogroup claiming hg and abg, you are the outliers lmao, if hutus were actually Somali we would see many of them matching and appearing on YFULL. Out of the many hutus tested, only 2 of them matched, an abg and hg with a TMRCA of 950 years ago, according to their abtirsi, hiraab is a very recent young clan so they should have matched a few hundred years ago, but in reality it's even older than Darood showing their lineage is corrupt. Hutus are getting nilotic and jareer haplogroups and you have the audacity to write all this babble about us. This shows your tribe is filled with random sheegads.

HAG is mainly clustered around Central Somalia and are by definition a central Somalian DNA cluster from the Haplogroup E-V32 which is cushitic. The only tribe that has of any jareer DNA proven is these from the further down south and that is in Gedo Region Marehan have approx 5% which is of small percentage due to perhaps assimilation we don''t intermix Jareer nor marry them nor Midgaan that is just our xeer. Hence no reported of such but within Marehan there were nilotic haplogroup but not saying all of Marehan is that could have been few incidents they are by definition bordering Kenya and the true southerners are Darood not Hawiye who are enitrely Central based there is traceability

Talking from your ass when scientists did a DNA analysis of Somali clans, Mareexan were found to be the purest Somalis with not a single drop of bantu blood, also EV32 is 7000 years old, it is a broad gigantic haplogroup found from Chad and Sudan all the way to Arabia, it doesn't prove anything the only ones with midghaan xeer absorbing every baba tunde shaka zulu and hagaga is hutu who have niggas with Pygmy, Nilotic and Jareer haplogroups pygmies are the most midghan Africans, even jareer enslaves them, there are no nilotes in MX you're just saying nonsense to cope, just because hutu live together don't prove shit, you have the most diverse haplogroups, and MX migrated from northern an central regions roughly 250 years ago, we are the purest Darood.

All this xaar you are spewing won't change the facts, Darood is a real clan backed by genetic evidence. The majority of Darood are e-y18629, the Somali haplogroup, mean while hutu haplogroups are all over the place. The majority of Darood look pure Somali, whereas there are so many black nilotic looking jareer hutus, now DNA has proven why.

[Miles8]

Hutu, Darood is proven through DNA and lineage, there were dozens of hutus who had jareer haplogroups and T haplogroup claiming hg and abg, you are the outliers lmao, if hutus were actually Somali we would see many of them matching and appearing on YFULL. Out of the many hutus tested, only 2 of them matched, an abg and hg with a TMRCA of 950 years ago, according to their abtirsi, hiraab is a very recent young clan so they should have matched a few hundred years ago, but in reality it's even older than Darood showing their lineage is corrupt. Hutus are getting nilotic and jareer haplogroups and you have the audacity to write all this babble about us. This shows your tribe is filled with random sheegads.

HAG is mainly clustered around Central Somalia and are by definition a central Somalian DNA cluster from the Haplogroup E-V32 which is cushitic. The only tribe that has of any jareer DNA proven is these from the further down south and that is in Gedo Region Marehan have approx 5% which is of small percentage due to perhaps assimilation we don''t intermix Jareer nor marry them nor Midgaan that is just our xeer. Hence no reported of such but within Marehan there were nilotic haplogroup but not saying all of Marehan is that could have been few incidents they are by definition bordering Kenya and the true southerners are Darood not Hawiye who are enitrely Central based there is traceability

Talking from your ass when scientists did a DNA analysis of Somali clans, Mareexan were found to be the purest Somalis with not a single drop of bantu blood, also EV32 is 7000 years old, it is a broad gigantic haplogroup found from Chad and Sudan all the way to Arabia, it doesn't prove anything the only ones with midghaan xeer absorbing every baba tunde shaka zulu and hagaga is hutu who have niggas with Pygmy, Nilotic and Jareer haplogroups pygmies are the most midghan Africans, even jareer enslaves them, there are no nilotes in MX you're just saying nonsense to cope, just because hutu live together don't prove shit, you have the most diverse haplogroups, and MX migrated from northern an central regions roughly 250 years ago, we are the purest Darood.

All this xaar you are spewing won't change the facts, Darood is a real clan backed by genetic evidence. The majority of Darood are e-y18629, the Somali haplogroup, mean while hutu haplogroups are all over the place. The majority of Darood look pure Somali, whereas there are so many black nilotic looking jareer hutus, now DNA has proven why.

Cry some more.. The only Qabiil that borders both Jareer and Oromo are you and especially the Marehan are the only one to have been proven to have nilotic by DNA. Posted even on here in the further pages..

[Miles8]

Nobody was more Bantu looking then Jalle Siyaad Barre himself. They are the once bordering both Kenya and Oromo no other somalis does except them they are the boundaries so whatever filled that may come will first infiltred them we have a natural shield

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Darood has been proven genetically and through abtirsi. Garaad Hirabu was a nick name made by Ethiopia, his real name is Was Garaad Hiraabe ibn Garaad Aden ibn Mataan Ciis, clealry Somali muslim names. Mareexan were an emirate in Adal and ruled the kingdom.

Only those in SL care for this really. This single relation is a blessing to non MXs. And other nation less folks. But it is a curse. The myth of cult of personality and such. Post modern deconstruction of cultural Marxism. Gods are myths or God is real. I’m not the Hellenistic admirer. In middle America no such sophistication. Anyways, Ramadan Mubarak

[Khalid Ali]

Hiraaboe goyte theodoeries had no muslim name could be that he was a oromo convert to islam but was in his earlier life a christian and he was later adopted into the boon marexaan family clan thats the only explanation no somali will call his or her child theoedore hiraabe goyte its illogical really u do understand this how troubling this is. No boon ever ruled the adal empire there was not a single emir of adal what was a boon

[Thecoolguysomali]

HAG is mainly clustered around Central Somalia and are by definition a central Somalian DNA cluster from the Haplogroup E-V32 which is cushitic. The only tribe that has of any jareer DNA proven is these from the further down south and that is in Gedo Region Marehan have approx 5% which is of small percentage due to perhaps assimilation we don''t intermix Jareer nor marry them nor Midgaan that is just our xeer. Hence no reported of such but within Marehan there were nilotic haplogroup but not saying all of Marehan is that could have been few incidents they are by definition bordering Kenya and the true southerners are Darood not Hawiye who are enitrely Central based there is traceability

Talking from your ass when scientists did a DNA analysis of Somali clans, Mareexan were found to be the purest Somalis with not a single drop of bantu blood, also EV32 is 7000 years old, it is a broad gigantic haplogroup found from Chad and Sudan all the way to Arabia, it doesn't prove anything the only ones with midghaan xeer absorbing every baba tunde shaka zulu and hagaga is hutu who have niggas with Pygmy, Nilotic and Jareer haplogroups pygmies are the most midghan Africans, even jareer enslaves them, there are no nilotes in MX you're just saying nonsense to cope, just because hutu live together don't prove shit, you have the most diverse haplogroups, and MX migrated from northern an central regions roughly 250 years ago, we are the purest Darood.

All this xaar you are spewing won't change the facts, Darood is a real clan backed by genetic evidence. The majority of Darood are e-y18629, the Somali haplogroup, mean while hutu haplogroups are all over the place. The majority of Darood look pure Somali, whereas there are so many black nilotic looking jareer hutus, now DNA has proven why.

Cry some more.. The only Qabiil that borders both Jareer and Oromo are you and especially the Marehan are the only one to have been proven to have nilotic by DNA. Posted even on here in the further pages..

Booran are Cushitic and bordering them are, no Mareexan had nilotic DNA. Hutus are getting A and B haplogroup bunch of nilotic slavery rape babies

[Thecoolguysomali]

Hiraaboe goyte theodoeries had no muslim name could be that he was a oromo convert to islam but was in his earlier life a christian and he was later adopted into the boon marexaan family clan thats the only explanation no somali will call his or her child theoedore hiraabe goyte its illogical really u do understand this how troubling this is. No boon ever ruled the adal empire there was not a single emir of adal what was a boon

That was the name the Ethiopians gave to him because he was that infamous, if you check his abtirsi his name is Garaad Hirabe, Garaad Ali, Garaad Aden, Matan, Ciise, Adal had multiple ethnicities and so they had titles which originated from them, for example Ugaas comes from Abegaz. Goyta was the title of the person who represented and emirate of the kingdom, that's why Mareexan are shown next to Adal on all the maps, even one map shows "Kingdom of Marra or Adal" showing historical significance. While iidoor boons were speaking Oromo and hunting donkeys to survive, Mareexan were ruling the Adal kingdom. If iidoor were so powerful and great why didn't they have any kings or top generals? Amiir Nuur the nephew of Axmed Gurey and the second greatest Adal king was Marexan.

The langaab habar xaarwaal were conquered and civilized by habar yoonis dirs who conquered and civilized them, before them they were roaming the desert hunting sagaro to survive, that's why you have random haplogroups in your tribe and some are E (Oromo hunter gather boons) and the rest are T (garxijis rape babies).

[Gubbet]

example Ugaas comes from Abegaz

Harari was Ethio-Semitic close to Amharic who are then close to other Semitic languages like Arabic, the language of Islam.

Every Somali traditional title but the nominal Arabic ones like Sultan/Emir come from Adal including Garaad, Malaaq, Islam/Islan, Wober (Gamber), and even Ugaas (Abegaz)

Ugas or Abegaz is the chief ruler of a defensive province (exactly Duke in European titles from the old Latin Dux or important military commander of an important defensively critical province).

Gazi is considered post-Islam to be a "holy warrior" but really the root gzw in all Semitic languages means "battle/raid" when tribes men go on the "hunt" against enemy tribes for raiding.

In Ethio-Semitic, both Amharic and Harari, Abegaz means "Father of War" or really "COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF."

The President of a Nation is the only Commander-In-Chief in fact the first is his peace title and the second is his war title.

Abegaz is the Commander-In-Chief of the tribe or the "leader."

In Somali that is U-GAAS or THE DELEGATOR/CHIEF COMMANDER.

Sareeye Gaas = Major General
A-GAAS-SIME = Acting Delegator or Director-General

[Gubbet]

"Why the marexaan chief of the darood is called goyte xirabe theodorus a clear habesha orthodox name"

This might get my post deleted but a small minority (~5%) of Marexaans are indeed Oromo. Some Oromos have those Habesha-sounding names without actually being Habesha.

And what do you base this off of? And I want you to understand I am very, very well aware of genetic discussions both here, Somalispot, and Anthrogenica even if I do not contribute to it.

So understand exactly that I am aware of the "synergy" going on between why;

-A "Libaax Joore" would categorically malign and delegetimize the E-Y163928 as "not" of Darods, including the multiple Marehan testora, because it was in part testing done by the Somali peace project even though they did NOT have "asterisks" next to their name:

The clad implicating many Darod testers >> https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-Y163928/

The clad implicating all the confirmed Marehan within or part of the Darod implicating clad >> https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-Y272428/

-While he would at the same time start topics casting aspersions again Marehan because 1 LONE Somali Peace Project tester with Marehan/Hawlraarsame next to his name got E-Z2115 even though the gentleman HAS an asterisk to his name

-Which then has at around the 80+ page or so at Anthrogenica a sudden proliferation of "Johnny Latecomers" "pointedly" engineering subversive distractions one of which predictably revolves round this self-explanatory "poisoning of the well" using a random another allegedly "spoken" with.

NEWSFLASH:

The SPP or Somali Peace Project tests "everyone" although it is designed to be of resource to people who are from Gabooye/artisanal or historically disenfranchised Somali groups.

The Somali Project "explicitly" puts an "asterisk" (*) next to individuals who have explicitly identified themselves from "artisanal" backgrounds in hybrid self-identification.

The E-Y163928 testers who happen to have resulted in understanding this implicates a great aspect of "Darod" are not from artisanal backgrounds. Not only do they NOT have asterisks next to their names, but I KNOW this as I have confirmed on this board that I can confirm one of the multiple Marehan testors who have identified a "Marehan" implicating clad within E-Y163928 or the "Darod" implicating clad;

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 0&t=407991

Something which does not stop people from your origins and "Libaax Joore" delegitimizing them as "not" representative of Darod because "SPP" did a lot of the testing [even though---once again--- SPP EXPLICITLY puts an asterisk to people who have said they publicly claim an identity which they privately do not something which they did not put next to these people].

YET at the same time are everywhere subscribing 1 LONE test from SPP as "representative" of Marehan because he claimed Hawlraarsame [even though---one final time--- SPP EXPLICITLY puts an asterisk next to self-identified claimants which they put next to this guy].

You do not make sense other than petty resentment. That is it really.

The one guy from SPP that self-identified he is a claimant, you are everywhere using him as representative of Marehan, but the gazillions of others also from SPP who are not claimants, including all the other Marehan, you are everywhere denying they are representative of Marehan or Dhulbahante or Layl Kase---, because you don't want them being representative of "Darod."

All because "Garowe" does not uniquely show up among the test results of E-Y163928!

And another thing, it is not even "Oromo" the clad that claimant got as "Oromo" is one of the most diverse groups in the Horn haplotypically. It is a more archaic form of E-V32 which implicates many groups in NFD like Degoodiye, Garre, etc.

https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-FTA76226/

But in any case the man had an asterisk next to his name meaning HE disclosed HIMSELF that his public identity was a claim which he does not privately claim.

Even though this will be "erased" ku lahaa, get real dude and move one, you guys have beaten this to death! Everywhere!

And it is all "smoke and mirrors." Move on sheesh.

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