Murax wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:34 pm
Gubbet wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 12:21 pm
Murax, I am afraid by learned experience, I treat 'older Somali' viewpoints strictly or merely as a subjective perspective that I need to 'prove' AGAINST the evidence.
Older Somali viewpoints is not evidence.
Marehan, Majerten, Hawiye, Isaaq, Rahanwayn---they all have their own subjective perspective and I have even found the Marehan oral perspective is not a tad different in veracity and contextualization limitations than any single one of the other perspectives.
Please read this recent topic of mine concerning this very subject and notice how far beyond both before and after the 60's I framed my reference;
https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 0&t=409312
People who actually dealt with the political class going back to the lte 60s mater more than the subjective perspective you claim based on random dhalanyaro in the Twitterverse. The reason where you are coming from is no mindboggingly delusional, is the Deni/MJ political establishment who chaired/cochaired the last election process, deliberately delayed the elections, fought a 'Darood' in Farmaajo tooth/nail, and were instrumental in pushing the Ceelwaaq fiasco in one of the most embarrassing Ls ever absorbed in Somali politics to where a illiterate charcoal dealing warlord LITERALLY picked our MPs, is SOMEWHOW a potential ally Vis a Vis a HSM who really at worst just tells you Unuka Leh Xamar/Villa Somalia but otherwise wasn't the head of the snake that put us in this deplorable situation?
To me Hamze Barre is a known quantity good or bad. I see a path to where we can improve our political situation without much harm coming from his way. If you believe HSM is a enemy today, you will have two bitter enemies once you add a MJ PM, mark my words.
Sxb, Fartaag "singlehandedly" picked EL Wak MPs. Cabaas Talxe provided the idea. Dhuumaal singlehandedly prepared it. Mohamud Sayid gave it legitimacy and even provided a rather curious choice of "gift" by providing the "malxiis." Former state officials as high as recent Governors of Gedo competed in it (Maxamed Muxumud) or were the biggest drum beaters (Aw Hirsi).
That is Rer Hassan, Talxe, Rer Axmed, and yes Reer Diini. Both Galti AND Guri.
And before them we can go further back to Janan, Alankeey, Kaliil, even as far back as even PM Abdiwali Sh Ahmed and the tainted accession of Mohamed Ugas Hashi to see just how singularly Marehan has no reason to blame ANYONE for what "Marehan" and "Uhuru" have done against Marehan of the last decade.
Couple days ago, I told Hulkujir point blank there is "nothing" I have respected about Reer Diini of the past decade.
The truth is, apart from Wagardhac specifically im Saaxo and Reer Hassan specifically in Dheka, during the past decade there is nothing I have respected about Marehan "period."
In fact, I hold the sum weight of their political chicanery of the last decade in the deepest contempt.
Marehan needs to take responsibility and stop always having all the energy just for "deflection."