100+ MPs tailer motion against PM; 1st in history a PM's clan, not the Pres, table successful motion against sitting PM

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Re: 100+ MPs tailer motion against PM; 1st in history a PM's clan, not the Pres, table successful motion against sittin

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Kees70 wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:54 am
skywalker25 wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:41 am So after the Ogaden assisting them in Las anood, by sending them 100’s liyu polise over the border, which then forced the central government to disband them. Not to mention all the refugee’s from las anood are being housed in JigJiga. This is the thank you they get.

This is something truly to behold. The hunger for power knows no brother, ally or friend so far as the Harti (Mj) are concerned.
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Lol, Ogadens have indeed been used and now discarded after their usefulness has ended.

It's unfortunate for ogadens that they have lost tremendous power in DDSI for helping their Harti cousins in Sool against Somaliland and it's their same Harti cousins today who are now conspiring to overthrow their Hamza from his PM post and claim his chair.

It very sad that ogadens have been used and abused by their fellow darood kins, majerteen greed knows no bound.
Ogaden are not in this war .. as matter of fact .. it is just dhulos vs isaaq .
Teeda kale …Ogaden and dhulos waa dad walala ah..xitaa haday iscaawiyaan waa mid ay isku leeyahahiin.
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Voltage and his qiiro….few mjs helped dhulos …so what ..
Mj and dhulos…are harti..waa maxamud harti iyo Saciid harti …so a man helping his brother is not selfless..waa waajib. Anyway it is time for dhulbahante pm :clap:
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I support the removal of the puppet PM.
He has taken the Darood seat and failed to serve our interests.

As far as MJ go......I will never again fix my mouth to speak against them.

The iidoors had marshalled a tremendous killing force to committ genocide and ethnic cleansing against the Dhulbahante.

The iidoors were confident that MJs would not come to their brothers aid.......how wrong they were.

Furthermore, the war in Lascaanood has been reawakening of Darood unity.
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Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 2:34 pm Voltage and his qiiro….few mjs helped dhulos …so what ..
Mj and dhulos…are harti..waa maxamud harti iyo Saciid harti …so a man helping his brother is not selfless..waa waajib. Anyway it is time for dhulbahante pm :clap:
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Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE wrote: Voltage and his qiiro….few mjs helped dhulos …so what ..
Mj and dhulos…are harti..waa maxamud harti iyo Saciid harti …so a man helping his brother is not selfless..waa waajib. Anyway it is time for dhulbahante pm :clap:
100% agree, I really hope.

I'm afraid it won't happen though because HSM doesn't want to lose the Dir/Somaliland votes which he might with a Dhulbahante PM. I hope I'm wrong.
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Somaliland should make sure a puppet who is neither Harti or Sade is our neighbour Somalia's PM
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Murax wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 2:47 pm
Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE wrote: Voltage and his qiiro….few mjs helped dhulos …so what ..
Mj and dhulos…are harti..waa maxamud harti iyo Saciid harti …so a man helping his brother is not selfless..waa waajib. Anyway it is time for dhulbahante pm :clap:
100% agree, I really hope.

I'm afraid it won't happen though because HSM doesn't want to lose the Dir/Somaliland votes which he might with a Dhulbahante PM. I hope I'm wrong.
The dir vote are always up for grabs …they are always bought …so that is that
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Murax wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:34 pm
Gubbet wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 12:21 pm Murax, I am afraid by learned experience, I treat 'older Somali' viewpoints strictly or merely as a subjective perspective that I need to 'prove' AGAINST the evidence.

Older Somali viewpoints is not evidence.

Marehan, Majerten, Hawiye, Isaaq, Rahanwayn---they all have their own subjective perspective and I have even found the Marehan oral perspective is not a tad different in veracity and contextualization limitations than any single one of the other perspectives.

Please read this recent topic of mine concerning this very subject and notice how far beyond both before and after the 60's I framed my reference;

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 0&t=409312
People who actually dealt with the political class going back to the lte 60s mater more than the subjective perspective you claim based on random dhalanyaro in the Twitterverse. The reason where you are coming from is no mindboggingly delusional, is the Deni/MJ political establishment who chaired/cochaired the last election process, deliberately delayed the elections, fought a 'Darood' in Farmaajo tooth/nail, and were instrumental in pushing the Ceelwaaq fiasco in one of the most embarrassing Ls ever absorbed in Somali politics to where a illiterate charcoal dealing warlord LITERALLY picked our MPs, is SOMEWHOW a potential ally Vis a Vis a HSM who really at worst just tells you Unuka Leh Xamar/Villa Somalia but otherwise wasn't the head of the snake that put us in this deplorable situation?


To me Hamze Barre is a known quantity good or bad. I see a path to where we can improve our political situation without much harm coming from his way. If you believe HSM is a enemy today, you will have two bitter enemies once you add a MJ PM, mark my words.
Sxb, Fartaag "singlehandedly" picked EL Wak MPs. Cabaas Talxe provided the idea. Dhuumaal singlehandedly prepared it. Mohamud Sayid gave it legitimacy and even provided a rather curious choice of "gift" by providing the "malxiis." Former state officials as high as recent Governors of Gedo competed in it (Maxamed Muxumud) or were the biggest drum beaters (Aw Hirsi).

That is Rer Hassan, Talxe, Rer Axmed, and yes Reer Diini. Both Galti AND Guri.

And before them we can go further back to Janan, Alankeey, Kaliil, even as far back as even PM Abdiwali Sh Ahmed and the tainted accession of Mohamed Ugas Hashi to see just how singularly Marehan has no reason to blame ANYONE for what "Marehan" and "Uhuru" have done against Marehan of the last decade.

Couple days ago, I told Hulkujir point blank there is "nothing" I have respected about Reer Diini of the past decade.

The truth is, apart from Wagardhac specifically im Saaxo and Reer Hassan specifically in Dheka, during the past decade there is nothing I have respected about Marehan "period."

In fact, I hold the sum weight of their political chicanery of the last decade in the deepest contempt.

Marehan needs to take responsibility and stop always having all the energy just for "deflection."
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original dervish wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 2:40 pm I support the removal of the puppet PM.
He has taken the Darood seat and failed to serve our interests.

As far as MJ go......I will never again fix my mouth to speak against them.

The iidoors had marshalled a tremendous killing force to committ genocide and ethnic cleansing against the Dhulbahante.

The iidoors were confident that MJs would not come to their brothers aid.......how wrong they were.

Furthermore, the war in Lascaanood has been reawakening of Darood unity.
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Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 2:34 pm Voltage and his qiiro….few mjs helped dhulos …so what ..
Mj and dhulos…are harti..waa maxamud harti iyo Saciid harti …so a man helping his brother is not selfless..waa waajib. Anyway it is time for dhulbahante pm :clap:
I believe Dhulbahante will become President even, but I very much doubt HSM will be a Dhulbahante PM now in this war. It is not even that he is avoiding controversy or unprecedented eruption within 'Irir,' but most likely HSM is anti-SSC.
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^ which is why I rather like Hassan Sheikh :mrgreen:
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This time the game is totally different dir Waqooyi MPs who are around 50 will gather their forces to defend our own somaliland interests. Dhabayaco is irrelevant in xamar , we are the new sheriff in town. These hypocrites are enemies of every one. Any one against them can count on us. Culusaw Will get all our votes if he takes hardline against that small maxamuud saleebaan maamul.
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Gubbet COME ON SXB. Okay Aniga Murax ahaan if UAE gave me bags and said rig the election are you honestly telling me I cannot find 50 MJs who will take the cash in a poverty stricken country where the unemployment is 100% to do whatever it is I tell them to? You DAMN RIGHT they will. That’s exactly what happened last election with Deni/Ceelwalow. Think real world and not fantasy. The exception doesn’t disprove the rule, you know damn well the Ceelwalow process MPs, Madoobe concubines in Kismaayo you mentioned were, and are loathed by the overwhelming majority MX all
Around world. Yes lions share of the responsibility is within us, however the answer isn’t what you’re proposing which is wishing for the very same people who exploited your kal daadsanaan to be in a situation where they can continue to do it.


When life throws you lemons make lemonade. Our cards are our cards nothing we can do. As much as I loathe these prostitute 2 cent hoes Janaan, Fartaag, etc if they are now beating the drums for a MX led Jubbaland with HSM/Hamza remaining as much as I hate to find myself on the same side as these so called MX I’ll have to support that. Let’s put out the fire, then hold them accountable for their treason later.
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theyuusuf143 wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 4:36 pm This time the game is totally different dir Waqooyi MPs who are around 50 will gather their forces to defend our own somaliland interests. Dhabayaco is irrelevant in xamar , we are the new sheriff in town. These hypocrites are enemies of every one. Any one against them can count on us. Culusaw Will get all our votes if he takes hardline against that small maxamuud saleebaan maamul.
Bring it on Waqooyi MPs always get humiliated. Besides, what is more, hypocritical than supporting people who are only in Xamar for a paycheck?
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Ghiklo wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 5:22 pm
theyuusuf143 wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 4:36 pm This time the game is totally different dir Waqooyi MPs who are around 50 will gather their forces to defend our own somaliland interests. Dhabayaco is irrelevant in xamar , we are the new sheriff in town. These hypocrites are enemies of every one. Any one against them can count on us. Culusaw Will get all our votes if he takes hardline against that small maxamuud saleebaan maamul.
Bring it on Waqooyi MPs always get humiliated. Besides, what is more, hypocritical than supporting people who are only in Xamar for a paycheck?
Every one in xamar is for the paycheck, how are they different from yours . What do you contribute to Somalia , other than demanding too much rights you don't deserve. Our votes will no longer be wasted , we will make sure to use it , no Clan is more powerful than us , when it comes to the parliament. The entire dhabayaco MPs are less than 15.,. How can such a laangaab clan dictate Somalia , when we have 30, something isaaqs in the house. We are supposed to be movers and shakers.
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