Today I accessed HAG intellectual teleconference: 'MX must be separated from Darod, co-opted, seduced every way by HAG.'

[Rebelxx222]

The fact of the matter is that Mxs are irrelevant and will continue to remain irrelevant for the formidable future. All this stupid talks of Darood is under my Foot. Marehan needs Darood to survive and I don’t. If we are talking facts the enemy of Darood is Marehan but they don’t see that as true. When Darood was United politically it was Marehan that divided us. All Noble Daroods see Marehan as Hawiye condom. The Darood politics in Somalia will continue to be dominated by Ogaden & Majeerten. If you want to see a Darood Alliance in the future than I propose that you support an Ogaden president for Villa Somalia otherwise Stfu.

[Gubbet]

The fact of the matter is that Mxs are irrelevant and will continue to remain irrelevant for the formidable future. All this stupid talks of Darood is under my Foot. Marehan needs Darood to survive and I don’t. If we are talking facts the enemy of Darood is Marehan but they don’t see that as true. When Darood was United politically it was Marehan that divided us. All Noble Daroods see Marehan as Hawiye condom. The Darood politics in Somalia will continue to be dominated by Ogaden & Majeerten. If you want to see a Darood Alliance in the future than I propose that you support an Ogaden president for Villa Somalia otherwise Stfu.

Afaarahaan 'sheegato' ka ahoow.

[Gubbet]

Tbh no Isaaq cares much about Marexaan the animosity towards Marexaan on this forum 90% is not one that exist in reality in comparison to primarily MJ or historically OG and some Dhulbahnte/Warsengeli. With these Darod tribes there are real facts on the ground issues. The issue between Isaaq and Marexaan on this forum stems 100% from the ramblings of Gubbet. He contributes negatively to the Marexaan brand when it comes to diplomacy on this forum.

The issue between Dhulbahnte and Isaaq is not something neither side wanted. We have coexisted fine for a long time. The problem is the MJ have played on their emotions with Darod talk which when out under a microscope is MJ strategic interests. Most Isaaq’s have no hate or animosity besides camel thieving for the Dhulbahnte or Warsengeli poeople in general. But if it’s case of Majerteen using them as a wedge to an attack Somaliland interests and b gain more power in Somslia we will oppose them by any means.

The logical mind of Darod is they equate Somaliwyen with Darodism and MJ equate Darodism with MJism. The same problem that majority of non Darods face when dealing with this conundrum, which is; what do I do if my tribes interests are not in line with Darod interests or are in opposition. I’m I going against the interests of Somaliwyen. It’s a dilemma. No the Marexaan are facing the same question but it’s MJ interests. If supporting MJ interests means it will negatively impact Marexaan interests. Why then shall I be classed as anti Darod for opposing MJ interests. This is the accusation Gubbet is labelling anyone who oppose MJ.

[eliteSomali]

As some one who can speak on behalf of both somaliland and galmudug. It's true both states tried their best to integrate dhulbahante and mareexaan into the system. But it failed from your side.

I am 100% confident no isaaq or habar gidir wants to do anything with dhulbahante and mareexaan. Especially mareexaans are irrelevant in any way you look at. I can say dhulbahante is still important for somaliland because somaliland boundaries are based on Their land. It's about the land not the peaple. But mareexaans has nothing to offer to hawiye at all , Only doqon empowers his rival.

Hassan sheekh is Oki with the cagdheer. The prime minister is his long time friend. OGs are just New players in Somalia and they are not too greedy to confront against the hutus. In my opinion cagdheer Will remain their positions , and mareexaans chances will be reduced year after year.

Why should cagdheer actively seek conflict with hawiye when we have no borders or any reason to fight? There's no reason. Whoever wants to fight hawiye, they are more than welcome to do it, but don't drag us into that. We won't be part of it.