Deni caused the disenfranchisement of 6 Somali clans. Now Puntland Is In Trouble because of him

[original dervish]

You weren't laughing when you saw the brotherly Darood clans rush to the aid of their besieged kinsmen in Lascaanood.

Without Darood support Lascaanood would have been an open air carpark within weeks, if not days.

Daroodism is why we are still holding off 40,000 iidoors.
Daroodism is why Lascaanood is unconquerable.
Daroodism is why future Dhulbahante generations will have a prosperous future inshallah.

I am indeed a card carrying, flag waving pan Daroodist.
Stick that in your iidoor pipe and smoke it.

[Hulkujir]

Deni is undoubtedly the best president in the history of Puntland.

Ogaden and Marehan should avoid betraying SSC in this critical time by antagonizing Deni or MJ

Why are you putting Ogaden and MX side by side, gormaa heshiinay ? Waryaa defend your PM if he is being wrongfully attacked maxaa aniga iga galay.

I mean we seem to oppose Harti for two different reasons.

Marehan are not anti-SSC however, their longstanding rivarly with MJ is pushing Marehan towards Irir Samaale.Marehan should wisely choose between antagonizing SSC and settling political score against Deni .

On the other hand, Ogaden should avoid siding with Irir gangsters while trying to defend Hamze.Apparently Hamze is simultaneously attacking Deni and SSC struggle. The irir spell is taking a toll on the pious prime minister but the Ugaas Kooshin man will hopefully get balls of steel in the sea of Irir conspiracy.

No we are neutral saxib, we are not eating Cambuulo like Ogaden, beenta wa xaran, but I will tell you the truth, MX are completely neutral, even I am neutral and I have Harti Abtis listen saxib, runta aan isku sheegno, its OG vs Harti, this has never happened because Harti have never been this united, walahi you will get bend over and fucked, but I as MX I am neutral, defend you PM Hamze waryaa .

[Hulkujir]

You weren't laughing when you saw the brotherly Darood clans rush to the aid of their besieged kinsmen in Lascaanood.

Without Darood support Lascaanood would have been an open air carpark within weeks, if not days.

Daroodism is why we are still holding off 40,000 iidoors.
Daroodism is why Lascaanood is unconquerable.
Daroodism is why future Dhulbahante generations will have a prosperous future inshallah.

I am indeed a card carrying, flag waving pan Daroodist.
Stick that in your iidoor pipe and smoke it.

You are a KAblalaxist saxib, you celebrated Deni dissing insulting MX students, mocking Rer Guri and Rer Galti, you celebrated Kenya bombing MXs and the invasion of Beledxawo.

Darood is not just Kablalax, there is other Daroods than Kablalax, and as MX we have alot of things in common with OGs we will not side with OGs who have gone under the Irirs for self interest, but we sure as hell wont side with you who laughed at our struggle, defend yourself mate. We fight real nations you fight Iidoria a fake nation.

[original dervish]

We will endeavour to persevere sxb......with or without your support.

This war is the equivalent of Gedo 1991, when Marehan faced a genocidal USC force.

This is existential........if we lose......we dissappear from the lands.

[Gubbet]

Why are you putting Ogaden and MX side by side, gormaa heshiinay ? Waryaa defend your PM if he is being wrongfully attacked maxaa aniga iga galay.

I mean we seem to oppose Harti for two different reasons.

Marehan are not anti-SSC however, their longstanding rivarly with MJ is pushing Marehan towards Irir Samaale.Marehan should wisely choose between antagonizing SSC and settling political score against Deni .

On the other hand, Ogaden should avoid siding with Irir gangsters while trying to defend Hamze.Apparently Hamze is simultaneously attacking Deni and SSC struggle. The irir spell is taking a toll on the pious prime minister but the Ugaas Kooshin man will hopefully get balls of steel in the sea of Irir conspiracy.

No we are neutral saxib, we are not eating Cambuulo like Ogaden, beenta wa xaran, but I will tell you the truth, MX are completely neutral, even I am neutral and I have Harti Abtis listen saxib, runta aan isku sheegno, its OG vs Harti, this has never happened because Harti have never been this united, walahi you will get bend over and fucked, but I as MX I am neutral, defend you PM Hamze waryaa .

Waa beenloow caadi ah. You don't even need theory to prove it. This one claims MX/Rer Dini/Rer Dalal. This is the very MP of that juffo, MP Raysal Qorane, in Garowe recently to support the Harti grand Shir called by the Las Anod Garaads.



She has never been to Garowe and she didn't go there for smooches or for Deni

Disclaimer: This is the internet. Individual, lone voices do not represent "clans." Clans represent themselves in their political affirmations and choices.

Marehan is not neutral, nor is Reer Diini neutral, and neither is Reer Dalal neutral.

They are 500% in support of and champion the people of Las Anod overcoming dulmi and aggression that sought to commit injustice against them.

MP Raysal Qorane, the senior MP from Caabudwaaq in Garowe in that picture for that auspices is concrete evidence of this.

Mrs. Qorane wasn't part of Gedo 16 and she wasn't selected in Ceel-Qaaloow, Kenya.

She is part of Sade Mudug Mps chosen by her constituency freely from Caabudwaaq.

She represents the Marehan political position on this matter, not a faceless, nameless, anonymous nick on a screen accessing the internet.

[original dervish]

[Gubbet]

I would also add immediately I know what Hulkujir is doing, only two types of people do that and I am going to he perfectly honest because I have already made it apparent I strongly admire what they have done in support of Las Anod, but only a type of 'Majerten' and Habar Gidir do what he is doing.

Somehow there is resentment because of two things;

1. MX and DH have been implicated in similar political disposition in multiple times and there are 'some' MJ (that I have observed) who read something wrong from this inference. DH is Harti and closer to MJ, true so relational sensitivities are perfectly understandable and even predictable, but the mistake made is the assumption the way to respond to this is to engage in devil's advocacy (isku dir). MX and DH have been implicated in politics together because of "commonality" not "agreement." You can break up an agreement, but you cannot "break" up what someone espouses. Essentially, your relationship to Dhulbahante is your own separate to the common shared interests between DH and MX or basically, build, strengthen and fortify your own relationship.

2. The second group is Habar Gidir and this is from the opposite perspective. I once said Hawiye deeply resent that "MX" is "Darod." Wallahi it is true and no one evinces this more than Habar Gidir. You only have to look at any discussion where a MX says anything positive about Puntland---somehow you will always find being expressed the Hawiye remissive "But you are Galmudug" or in other words "you are supposed to be loyal to me." It is a different form of relational sensitivity this one from "OOD" not "ODAY" or from shared land not shared blood. The Isaaq and particularly the HJ seem to display this and even now you can see elements of it in people like Yusuf when he says "YOU Darod baa isku kaayo diray inaga iyo DH."

Almost 100% whenever I have seen Hilkujir's consistently displayed spitefulness towards DH in the name of MX, the scent inevitably always emanated from the two remonstrations I outlined above.

Dhulbahante iyo Mareexaan dad inta meel fadhiistay "business deal" galay maaha, dad contract ka dhaxeeyo maaha, dad u baahan ineey alifaan shuraako maaha. Ilaahay baa ka dhigay dad ehel ah and ilaahay baa ka dhigay dad ehel ah oo isku aragti runtii leh oo is waafaqdo. Taas waxba laga qaadi maayo waayo waa niyyo qofkana niyyo kama aad badali kartid iyo dareenkeeda. Walaalayaal kuligeen mawqifkanaga ilaahay ha mideeyo.

P.S. Runtii anigu maba aamini karo a real MX exists whose position on Las Anod is different to mine. I say that because I have never seen nor heard nor have any reason to countenance. Wallahul cadiim I have not laid a single eye on one or even heard of one. Yet they seem to be running in between people on the net and somehow they are never the ones I already know and already personally confident about. Go figure

[Sbashi]

I would also add immediately I know what Hulkujir is doing, only two types of people do that and I am going to he perfectly honest because I have already made it apparent I strongly admire what they have done in support of Las Anod, but only a type of 'Majerten' and Habar Gidir do what he is doing.

Somehow there is resentment because of two things;

1. MX and DH have been implicated in similar political disposition in multiple times and there are 'some' MJ (that I have observed) who read something wrong from this inference. DH is Harti and closer to MJ, true so relational sensitivities are perfectly understandable and even predictable, but the mistake made is the assumption the way to respond to this is to engage in devil's advocacy (isku dir). MX and DH have been implicated in politics together because of "commonality" not "agreement." You can break up an agreement, but you cannot "break" up what someone espouses. Essentially, your relationship to Dhulbahante is your own separate to the common shared interests between DH and MX or basically, build, strengthen and fortify your own relationship.

2. The second group is Habar Gidir and this is from the opposite perspective. I once said Hawiye deeply resent that "MX" is "Darod." Wallahi it is true and no one evinces this more than Habar Gidir. You only have to look at any discussion where a MX says anything positive about Puntland---somehow you will always find being expressed the Hawiye remissive "But you are Galmudug" or in other words "you are supposed to be loyal to me." It is a different form of relational sensitivity this one from "OOD" not "ODAY" or from shared land not shared blood. The Isaaq and particularly the HJ seem to display this and even now you can see elements of it in people like Yusuf when he says "YOU Darod baa isku kaayo diray inaga iyo DH."

Almost 100% whenever I have seen Hilkujir's consistently displayed spitefulness towards DH in the name of MX, the scent inevitably always emanated from the two remonstrations I outlined above.

Dhulbahante iyo Mareexaan dad inta meel fadhiistay "business deal" galay maaha, dad contract ka dhaxeeyo maaha, dad u baahan ineey alifaan shuraako maaha. Ilaahay baa ka dhigay dad ehel ah and ilaahay baa ka dhigay dad ehel ah oo isku aragti runtii leh oo is waafaqdo. Taas waxba laga qaadi maayo waayo waa niyyo qofkana niyyo kama aad badali kartid iyo dareenkeeda. Walaalayaal kuligeen mawqifkanaga ilaahay ha mideeyo.

P.S. Runtii anigu maba aamini karo a real MX exists whose position on Las Anod is different to mine. I say that because I have never seen nor heard nor have any reason to countenance. Wallahul cadiim I have not laid a single eye on one or even heard of one. Yet they seem to be running in between people on the net and somehow they are never the ones I already know and already personally confident about. Go figure

I haven't met, seen or heard of a single mx with a different position either. I believe hulkujir is from the first group you mentioned. He's obviously a trolling sheegad. They despise the relationship between mx and DH way too much. And the first step they do, at least online, is pretend to be mx and mention some nonsense about DH supporting mj and madoobe in kismayo.

This man really said I a random sheegad online speak for mx and all of your opinions are wrong

[original dervish]

The war of aggression against Dhulbahante has brought all the clans of Darood together.

Deni/Pl split from the hagites has only reinforced this emerging sense of Darood unity.

It would be a huge error not to build upon this unity, and expand into politics, economics and security cooperation.

Opportunities that have recently presented themselves must not be wasted, especially when our adversaries are speaking in terms of irrirism.

[Gubbet]

I would also add immediately I know what Hulkujir is doing, only two types of people do that and I am going to he perfectly honest because I have already made it apparent I strongly admire what they have done in support of Las Anod, but only a type of 'Majerten' and Habar Gidir do what he is doing.

Somehow there is resentment because of two things;

1. MX and DH have been implicated in similar political disposition in multiple times and there are 'some' MJ (that I have observed) who read something wrong from this inference. DH is Harti and closer to MJ, true so relational sensitivities are perfectly understandable and even predictable, but the mistake made is the assumption the way to respond to this is to engage in devil's advocacy (isku dir). MX and DH have been implicated in politics together because of "commonality" not "agreement." You can break up an agreement, but you cannot "break" up what someone espouses. Essentially, your relationship to Dhulbahante is your own separate to the common shared interests between DH and MX or basically, build, strengthen and fortify your own relationship.

2. The second group is Habar Gidir and this is from the opposite perspective. I once said Hawiye deeply resent that "MX" is "Darod." Wallahi it is true and no one evinces this more than Habar Gidir. You only have to look at any discussion where a MX says anything positive about Puntland---somehow you will always find being expressed the Hawiye remissive "But you are Galmudug" or in other words "you are supposed to be loyal to me." It is a different form of relational sensitivity this one from "OOD" not "ODAY" or from shared land not shared blood. The Isaaq and particularly the HJ seem to display this and even now you can see elements of it in people like Yusuf when he says "YOU Darod baa isku kaayo diray inaga iyo DH."

Almost 100% whenever I have seen Hilkujir's consistently displayed spitefulness towards DH in the name of MX, the scent inevitably always emanated from the two remonstrations I outlined above.

Dhulbahante iyo Mareexaan dad inta meel fadhiistay "business deal" galay maaha, dad contract ka dhaxeeyo maaha, dad u baahan ineey alifaan shuraako maaha. Ilaahay baa ka dhigay dad ehel ah and ilaahay baa ka dhigay dad ehel ah oo isku aragti runtii leh oo is waafaqdo. Taas waxba laga qaadi maayo waayo waa niyyo qofkana niyyo kama aad badali kartid iyo dareenkeeda. Walaalayaal kuligeen mawqifkanaga ilaahay ha mideeyo.

P.S. Runtii anigu maba aamini karo a real MX exists whose position on Las Anod is different to mine. I say that because I have never seen nor heard nor have any reason to countenance. Wallahul cadiim I have not laid a single eye on one or even heard of one. Yet they seem to be running in between people on the net and somehow they are never the ones I already know and already personally confident about. Go figure

I haven't met, seen or heard of a single mx with a different position either. I believe hulkujir is from the first group you mentioned. He's obviously a trolling sheegad. They despise the relationship between mx and DH way too much. And the first step they do, at least online, is pretend to be mx and mention some nonsense about DH supporting mj and madoobe in kismayo.

This man really said I a random sheegad online speak for mx and all of your opinions are wrong

Waa yaab. Like dude, you are an 'anomaly' right here in THIS very forum??? By anomaly I mean---not a SINGLE ("1") Marehan contributor on this very forum supports, let alone "represents" much even less "signs on" to your position----

---So how in God's green earth do you represent "Marehan" the "clan?"

I know Marehan and I know Darod very well. What he is "doing" is not even an "individual" thing/behavior. "It" has context which is why I said;

I would also add immediately I know what Hulkujir is doing

This is the character that had the audacity to say to me, in the middle of Muuse Biixi's initial shelling of Las Anood, "ummada Islaamka haysku dirin, MX hadaan nahay nabad baan ugu baaqeynaa."

I ignored his ass, but you see how I remember it?

That's because I said to myself "ummadaada was" and spat at the ground next to me.

Ma Hargeysaa lagu duulay? Ma Burcaa lagu duulay? Ma Berberaa lagu duulay? Muuse Biixi literally, premeditatively, and intentionally ordered "shelling" of a civilian settlement with mosques, clinics, even random homeless individuals among the population, women in childbirth, children in bed with fevers, I mean with everything as a civilian human settlement and Muuse Biixi ordered "fire" on it.

"Ummada Islaamka haysku dirin??? "MX" 'hadaan nahay' nabad baan ku baaqeynaa??"

Nabadiisa iyo ummadiisaba ha waso, waaba cadoow qofkaas oo kale. Marehan WAAJIB ayaaba saarnaa to help Las Anod overcome Muuse Biixi's EVIL and at that same exact moment I even knew the initial weapons Marehan had solicited through Saleebaan as their chosen abaan/qabaan within Hawiye because of the emergency had been delivered to Cadaado by air and was headed to Caabudwaaq.

But that's the thing, he wasn't "speaking" for Marehan. He was speaking for shurunshur fadhi ku dirir internet 'business ' that is grounded in, emanates from, and does not pass what I described above when I said "I know immediately what he is doing."

[Hulkujir]

I would also add immediately I know what Hulkujir is doing, only two types of people do that and I am going to he perfectly honest because I have already made it apparent I strongly admire what they have done in support of Las Anod, but only a type of 'Majerten' and Habar Gidir do what he is doing.

Somehow there is resentment because of two things;

1. MX and DH have been implicated in similar political disposition in multiple times and there are 'some' MJ (that I have observed) who read something wrong from this inference. DH is Harti and closer to MJ, true so relational sensitivities are perfectly understandable and even predictable, but the mistake made is the assumption the way to respond to this is to engage in devil's advocacy (isku dir). MX and DH have been implicated in politics together because of "commonality" not "agreement." You can break up an agreement, but you cannot "break" up what someone espouses. Essentially, your relationship to Dhulbahante is your own separate to the common shared interests between DH and MX or basically, build, strengthen and fortify your own relationship.

2. The second group is Habar Gidir and this is from the opposite perspective. I once said Hawiye deeply resent that "MX" is "Darod." Wallahi it is true and no one evinces this more than Habar Gidir. You only have to look at any discussion where a MX says anything positive about Puntland---somehow you will always find being expressed the Hawiye remissive "But you are Galmudug" or in other words "you are supposed to be loyal to me." It is a different form of relational sensitivity this one from "OOD" not "ODAY" or from shared land not shared blood. The Isaaq and particularly the HJ seem to display this and even now you can see elements of it in people like Yusuf when he says "YOU Darod baa isku kaayo diray inaga iyo DH."

Almost 100% whenever I have seen Hilkujir's consistently displayed spitefulness towards DH in the name of MX, the scent inevitably always emanated from the two remonstrations I outlined above.

Dhulbahante iyo Mareexaan dad inta meel fadhiistay "business deal" galay maaha, dad contract ka dhaxeeyo maaha, dad u baahan ineey alifaan shuraako maaha. Ilaahay baa ka dhigay dad ehel ah and ilaahay baa ka dhigay dad ehel ah oo isku aragti runtii leh oo is waafaqdo. Taas waxba laga qaadi maayo waayo waa niyyo qofkana niyyo kama aad badali kartid iyo dareenkeeda. Walaalayaal kuligeen mawqifkanaga ilaahay ha mideeyo.

P.S. Runtii anigu maba aamini karo a real MX exists whose position on Las Anod is different to mine. I say that because I have never seen nor heard nor have any reason to countenance. Wallahul cadiim I have not laid a single eye on one or even heard of one. Yet they seem to be running in between people on the net and somehow they are never the ones I already know and already personally confident about. Go figure

I haven't met, seen or heard of a single mx with a different position either. I believe hulkujir is from the first group you mentioned. He's obviously a trolling sheegad. They despise the relationship between mx and DH way too much. And the first step they do, at least online, is pretend to be mx and mention some nonsense about DH supporting mj and madoobe in kismayo.

This man really said I a random sheegad online speak for mx and all of your opinions are wrong

And who the fuck are you, I get voltage this guy has been claiming Rer Siyaad for ages, he has put in work for MX, but who the fuck are you niyow, what are you even, and what makes you comfortable to speak on my name ? do you know me, have we had an exchange you better watch you mouth waryaa.

[Hulkujir]

Gubbet do you know Mohamed Ali ? I am tired of responding to your anti-SL post, you are pushing a narrative and you have the upper hand in this forum, I have simply given up on that, but regardless, I want to know what you think about Mohamed Ali.

[Gubbet]

Horta tariikhda baro, Ugaas Adan Hashi took the Ugaasate from Rer Ugas Sharmake and he gave it back to Rer Ugas Sharmake but to a different lineage, the current Ugaas we have Ugaas Mahamed Keyse is not the real Ugaas, but because MX support him he is recognized. Xoog baa loo sheegtay Rer Ugaas Sharmaake that is why Ugas Adan Hashi lead MX and created the Afar Waxaood I oppose today as his descendant the Afar Waxood that Mx Bari abide by.

I dare one single person to say this person is Marehan let alone Reer Diini.

I dare 1 person to say they believe he is MX.

Because he is not. His mother is Rer Dalal. He hates MX, but somehow in his head his mother's family isn't the "MX" he hates.

Abti, I am a MX man and a Reer Diini man at that and you have implicated an issue that would concern MX and especially Reer Diini---

---but which doesn't exist, at all, and I as a MX man and a Reer Diini at that fins completely and totally and utterly irrelevant.

Everywhere here and elsewhere, you are drowning on about "Reer Dalal, Reer Dalal, Reer Dalal."

Reer Dalal are MX, they are not even a MX clan that is a standalone clan or has a degree of autonomy from MX---like Wagardhac in Saaxo or Celi in Gelaadi.

They are not even a standalone clan or has autonomy even "within" Reer Diini the sub-clan like the Bah-Xawaadle of Gedo.

There is no "Reer Dalal" that exists apart from MX or even Reer Diini---

---except in your head because your mother is Reer Dalal and you want to possess her and her Reer Dalal family even though you hate her MX kinship.

But there is no "Reer Dalal" separate to MX, there is no even Reer Dalal separate to Reer Diini.

You need to find a different outlet for this "Freudian" issue you have going on. The toddler being weaned even resents his own father's connection to his mother and sees it as imposition.

But really the toddler was imposing his innocence on something far beyond his bearing.

Move on abti, really.

[Gubbet]

Gubbet do you know Mohamed Ali ? I am tired of responding to your anti-SL post, you are pushing a narrative and you have the upper hand in this forum, I have simply given up on that, but regardless, I want to know what you think about Mohamed Ali.

Do you see how this works?

Even that very question is not a question that a Marehan man would ask me.


Wallahi oo billahi oo tollahi kufurtu bilaahi it is not a question a Marehan man would ask. He would never ask me.

Only someone who resents Marehan, even possibly"hates," them would ask me that question because the intention that could only do that is one that thirsts for, as they perceive it, "hurting" Marehan.

Except even by addressing it so clearly and without any ambiguity, it should tell you only that you are why criminals end up being caught 99% of the time..

...they are the biggest witnesses against themselves.

Tan baan kaaga tagi because this has been annoyingly repetitive with you.

1. Speak only for yourself.
2. Even if you claim MX, you have no business attacking me or anyone else ascribing to yourself ironically the MX point of view.
3. Once again speak only for yourself, you do not represent MX, and even less did anyone appoint you as gatekeeper.

That has been 100% your problem.

[Murax]

Puntland is slow walking towards political catastrophy.

There is no way to get around this sensation.

Siciid Abdullahi Deni is different to prior Puntland leaders.

Why I say Gubbet is a legend. Unfortunately he was 100% dead on right here, and considering Gubbet’s pride at Puntland’s success I’m sure he was hoping he’d be wrong. As I’m sure they’re are any of you ‘Somali think tank’ personnel roaming this site look no beyond Gubbet if you’re looking for real, legitimate analysis that more often than not comes true!