ex-PM Omar Abdirashid 1st backlash: "2023 is not 1969 & NCC you are not SRRC (Golaha Sare Kacaanka)"

[Gubbet]

The salient point; "Boowe you are play acting' & no one cares for this pretension."

[Murax]

Dadkaad isku dejineysey waa Kuwaan soo jac maaha Adeer

[Gubbet]

Dadkaad isku dejineysey waa Kuwaan soo jac maaha Adeer

I don't get it bro? Wallahi?

It is not 2023, HSM is not Siad Barre, and NCC is not Golahii Sare Kacaanka?

I agree??

[Murax]

Dadkaad isku dejineysey waa Kuwaan soo jac maaha Adeer

I don't get it bro? Wallahi?

It is not 2023, HSM is not Siad Barre, and NCC is not Golahii Sare Kacaanka?

I agree??

I meant your constant attempts to create a narrative of MJ/MX reproach only for MJ politicians to constantly spit in your face.


Don’t get me wrong I believe no permanent friends or enemies, right now I don’t mind temporarily allying with Deni just like how HAG did before against Farmaajo. That said I think you are being too Kambayaa with it instead of strictly tactical.


Yesterday MX were fighting in Gaalkacyo in the ‘90s, today MX politicians are lobbying for PL. Name me one time a MJ politician lobbied for anything pro MX?


Again we should think of this as strictly tactical/temporary.

[Gubbet]

Dadkaad isku dejineysey waa Kuwaan soo jac maaha Adeer

I don't get it bro? Wallahi?

It is not 2023, HSM is not Siad Barre, and NCC is not Golahii Sare Kacaanka?

I agree??

I meant your constant attempts to create a narrative of MJ/MX reproach only for MJ politicians to constantly spit in your face.


Don’t get me wrong I believe no permanent friends or enemies, right now I don’t mind temporarily allying with Deni just like how HAG did before against Farmaajo. That said I think you are being too Kambayaa with it instead of strictly tactical.


Yesterday MX were fighting in Gaalkacyo in the ‘90s, today MX politicians are lobbying for PL. Name me one time a MJ politician lobbied for anything pro MX?


Again we should think of this as strictly tactical/temporary.

This is emotional and reactionary and really, I expect it per my response which was rhetorical bro.

The fact I said "I agree with it??" meant "I agree with it."

I don't see anything controversial about what he said other than the fact MX, and probably the overwhelming majority---typical of Somalis---display irrational possessiveness over anything remotely connected to a clansmen.

Siad wasn't the traditional chief of MX, he was a Somali leader. He wasn't democratically elected and he did not preside over a representative system of government by the people. He was a General who came to power through a coup, with a cohort of peers from the armed forces and they governed through a politburo (Golaha Sare Kacaanka or the Revolutionary High Council) who comprised the authority in a single state -party (Xisbigga Hanti-Wadaaga Kacaanka Somaliyeed or the Somali Socialist Revolutionary Party).

Unless you will disagree with those points, they are objective facts.

And because they are objective facts, I don't see the controversy behind their referencing as 'metaphors' to best describe what the NCC edict looks like.

You will also note that the post -civil war Somali concept of government including the provisional constitution is designed to be strictly "anti-Kacaan like authority" so I find it even undeniably acceptable that someone will reference 1969 to scream "this is not what we agreed to ."

However given that we are in fact Somalis and the sensitivities that exist perfectly even predictably displayed by you, I personally find his statements"tone deaf" and not particularly helpful especially given who his potential chief allies would be helping push back against this overreach by Culusoow. Then again, Omar Abdirashid has not shown himself to be the sharpest politician in the crowd.

[Murax]

Gubbet,

This is like the millionth time you try to insert 1st world political discourse into the 68 IQ Somali political spectrum. For goodness sakes we’re not discussing Sweeden here. You take general ‘In civilized countries this wouldn’t be considered a slight’ then apply it to Somalis. It’s why my brother I get very frustrated at a lot of your posts because I feel it’s always idealistic not reflecting the true status quo. It’s like you try to speak things into existence that you would like i.e a political alliance with MJ. Bottom line is tact in Somalia is a very delicate fine line. If you want to extend olive branches to MJ for instance it wouldn’t be a good idea to talk about the systemic corruption during the reign of Sharmake (Ironic considering this example).


MSB AUN you’re right is NOT a MX leader but a former Somali president. Hate or love is however many times people will tale a shot at him to attack a MX in their position. When Culusow and Badbaado HAG were railing about ‘We don’t want to go back to dictatorship’ blah blah during his campaign against Farmaako, then when Culusow becomes president boasts about how great the Kacaan was don’t think for a second that is not due to the fact that he, and his legions were insinuating MSB with MX.


Conversely when many MX see that the attacks against MSB were clan based I don’t blame them for defending his him from a clan sense, due to the attack itself being a clan not political attack. Now here with context to what this fat troll Sharmake said I actually don’t think this statement was a attack on MX. What it was however was a confirmation that this alliance you are trying to create is not the slightest bit reciprocated by any MJ politician I know.

So I ask you yet again please give me an example of this reproachment you crave dearly being reciprocated in any way, or fashion by MJ A list politicians i.e Deni, Faroole, Gaas, etc. If your purpose is repeating why you think it would be such a great development, duly noted. But I think I speak for most of Beesha when I say we focus on only the current reality which states that MJ politicians
Want none of this development you so deeply desire. Your constant craving for this followed by no reciprocation is Bah Dil for us because it makes us look desperate! Kindly refrain. Please brother give examples i.e quotes, statements, etc confirming development of this scenario because right now we only have SNET constructed narratives built upon what you wish but not reality based.

[Gubbet]

You wrote a lot and there are some I agree with and a lot I don't agree with and there are some I personally am critical of and some I take as valid criticism.

1. Everything I share is shared with purpose, i.e. if something is left adumbrated, I purposely chose to leave it adumbrated.
2. You judge the world through reactionarism meaning you do not own what you think, you just respond to what others implicate---as you see it. To this point Murax, 98% of what I have seen from you recently is "reaction" which almost always goes with "pessimism/negativity/defensiveness/backward looking." It's not an insult. It is the true. Maybe it would be good for you to start looking at what you do want as opposed to what you don't want.
3. Because I take your perspective seriously, I will take your advice and desist from what you (and you are not the only MX honestly) have expressed resentment towards being implicated with as a MX. It is done. I apologize if you feel something was 'imposed' on our shared identity to which you disapprove. It is done. I heard you loud and clear.

[Murax]

Gubbet,

For what it’s worth I 100% agree, and support what you see as ideal scenarios in the event it was to come to fruition. That said on this particular issue I believe the MJ political class (Not Shacab) operate on SSDF 1970s outlooks.


Also on a different note I feel like I can swear on a Kitaab that I despise Culusow more than you. So with that said I agree I don’t mind all opponents of his working together for the time being. He is a Shaytan, and dictator.

[Gubbet]

Wallahi Muruxoow in hindsight waxaa yaab ila noqotay the visceral, unrelenting, intense, deep animosity practically every non-Daarood community especially Hawiye and Isaaq have towards our 'MJ' kin and the intense, exceptional, deep animosity they have been implicated towards their "MRX" cousins. You got Cumar Buur attacking MRX even when they are the only potential allies they have in this fight and some individuals like the ones I have talked about on Somalispot fangs out for "MRX" (who literally do not pose a single threat to them) just when they are about to reach the end of the drawbridge to any basic relevance with Somalia going by the complete disregard Hawiye has treated them after what they did literally attacking Farmaajo from the back with pitchforks and coronating Culusoow with their own hands. Culusoow would never have treated MRX the way he treated Deni/MJ if MRX were the ones implicated in what Deni/MJ did for Culusoow. Wallahi he would have jumped over hulahoops bowing to MRX with appreciation. And the mother of all ironies---the 'Red Wedding' like historically unprecedented treachery shown by the Madoobe they licked after from the ground up just to 'spite' MRX even while Kenyan helicopter gunships were attacking them all these years.

No wonder MRX has been dragging his feet though they first approached them last November for talking again and no wonder every single one of you has despised my display of reconsideration here.

Wallahi I yielded because I became disgusted with myself that you had to 'slap' me to see I was even giving the benefit of the doubt to Cumar Buur's unmistakable Freudian slip re:MRX hate

Cumar Buur is one of the Freys. This is the House of Frey.

Everybody despised the Freys inspite of being important for the crossing because they hated everyone else. And their only possible allies---their kin the Starks---was the one they hated the most whom they infamously betrayed but whose betrayal was gleefully taken by the same enemy who hated the Freys even more than they did the Starks and so only used the Freys until there was no more need to then cast them off with a shake of relief.

Deni is Lord Walter Frey.

No wonder Farmaajo pulled an Ace. He is not fighting Deni's fight for him.

It is up to Lord Walter Frey to prevent Winter Coming for him.

p.s. It does not make me smile to say the above and in fact the record shows I desire a different relationship, but Murax is correct in that I let 'idealism' blur the boundary with the 'realism' implicated by the other side. You cannot impose good will with a factor that is not interested in it.

[KacdoonSool]

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[KacdoonSool]

The average Majeteein loves Marehan so keep your mouth closed, somalispot is a troll website

[Gubbet]

What I wrote was for Puntite Queen. You gotsta a problem KS?

[KacdoonSool]

My only problem is that we dont have a little handsome thing like you in Villa Somalia anymore instead we have an Adoon looking thing like Kees who can be confused with something that fled the local Zoo

[original dervish]

Everybody needs to calm down.
We can't be hostage to the past.

The reason the hagites dominate Mogadishu today is because of Darood disunity.......primarily MX& MJ......also OG.

We will continue to be on the periphery of Somali politics until we unite under shared interests.

The situation in Lascaanood is clear proof the hagites wish Daroods harm.......whether SSC, PL, GM or JL.

[FarhanYare]

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Exactly 4.5 was very beneficial to tolka.With Khatumo on board getting extra seats, Hag can be politically exiled if Mj stops being a narcissistic daneeste prick that puts their interest over his brothers and sisters.