Majeerteen, esp Cumar Mohamud, should not take lightly Layl Kase grievance re:Bicidyahan; threatens border w/ Galmudug.

[Gubbet]

Neither should Marehan Mudug, especially Wagardhac, take it lightly either. They should be proactively intervening as mediators.[/size]

From Balanbale to Buuhoodle, Darod have two very conflict prone borders with Hawiye and Isaaq, respectively.

-Dhulbahante Bordering Isaaq, especially Habar Jeclo
-Mareexaan, Laylkase, and Cumar Mohamud bordering Hawiye, especially Habar Gidir

There are two Darod groups not on the fault line, coming behind the above who have been inplicated starting land disputes with those Frontline border groups. They happen to be Majeerteen and have had problems with all the non-Majeerteen Darod clans

-Ciise Maxamuud which has had problems with Dhulbahante after instituting land dispute inside Sool (this has been resolved)
-Reer Bicidyahan which has had problems with Mareexaan close to Dhudub (this has been resolved)

Now Reer Bicidyahan is on the cusp of serious hostilities with Layl Kase over land perceived to be encroached upon by the latter

2 issues to understand;

-Reer Bicidyahan is sort of Ogaden if Majerten was Darod. The majority of their equity has been perceived to be outside of Somalia proper centered on Galaadi. Whatever animates the grievance of Ahmed Madoobe supporters it reflects Bicidyahan. Regardless of what has been historically perceived, for a while now, especially since federalism, Bicidyahan has coveted gaining greater equity in Puntland and MJ entitlements in federal Somalia. The focus of this is directed at Gaalkacyo in Mudug. Between the Bicjdyahan base in Galaadi to Gaalkacyo, the path runs through Layl Kase and Galdogob

-It is not only Bicidyahan but also couple other non-Mohamiud Saleban MJ lineages in Bookh-Gaalkacyo who have coveted gaining greater share of equities have contributed to a perception of encroachment ny Layl Kase of recent times in G of kkaldagob to Gaalkaco area. These is not simply water and grazing, but perceived by Layl Kase to be political equity encroachment...a sort of similar "deegaan-barar" problem observed clearly from Habar Gidir. From Sicir-Barar, or inflation, deegaan-barar is institution of unnatural urbanization for the purposes of being beneficiaries of increasing political process. Competition of "deegeameyn" results where settlements are being created like a ponzi scheme.

Cumar Maxmuud needs to understand the unique importance this issue has for them requiring serious intervention and quick resolution. They ae Majerten who are one of the 3 Darod groups who have a highly volatile amd vulnerable border with Hawiye. Messing with Layl Kase equilibrium in that border is a direct threat tot them. Layalkase border the Hawiye between Gaalkacyo and Gelinsoor. That entire area is vulnerable if Layl Kase grievance against "Majeerteen" continues to grow. The MX especially fhe Wagardhac should also not take this lightly and should be activelt trying to mediate.

Finally, I would encourage that free grazing and water use should even be encouraged, but that under no circumstances should deegaamin-barar or constituency/ creation be implemented or allowed at all by Majerten Mudug and Doollo against Laul Kase.

Give Layl Kase direct and unique understanding as "Majerten" regarding their internalized space.

[theyuusuf143]

If the leelkase don't fk with habargidir , they have nothing to worry from the galmudug side , their rivals are the cumar maxamuud. It's good for leelkase to have good relationship with habargidir.

[Gubbet]

If the leelkase don't fk with habargidir , they have nothing to worry from the galmudug side , their rivals are the cumar maxamuud. It's good for leelkase to have good relationship with habargidir.

Ducaaloow faduul badanidaa

Adigu Hawiye iyo Darood midna matihid, xataa Somalia.

LL waxeey yihiin iyo caynkaa kuu geli maayee, their rivals are actually not Cumar Maxmuud. They are in Puntland with them, in northern Gaalkacyo town, and they live surrounded by Majerteen from there fo Wardheer.

LL's beef with Sacad may have significantly decreased since Marehan resurged north once again with Wagardhac planting the flag of Saaxo right below Galdogob where the route to Dudub and Galadi enters Somalia, but they have significant problems with Sacad around the Saax Qurun area to Bandiiradley.

When Saaxo was planted and then subsequently defended, Sacad's tremendous retreat southeast from Dudub-Galdogob area back towards Bandiiradley saw concurrent expansion of Layl Kase. They and Sacad have just the same voltatile, insecure faultline as Sacad and Wagardhac, it is just the latter is much more animated and a threat to Sacad because of having lost the last bits of Gelinsoor grazing so it gives the impression there is peace between LL and Sacad.

Ugh, no.

[theyuusuf143]

If the leelkase don't fk with habargidir , they have nothing to worry from the galmudug side , their rivals are the cumar maxamuud. It's good for leelkase to have good relationship with habargidir.

Ducaaloow faduul badanidaa

Adigu Hawiye iyo Darood midna matihid, xataa Somalia.

LL waxeey yihiin iyo caynkaa kuu geli maayee, their rivals are actually not Cumar Maxmuud. They are in Puntland with them, in northern Gaalkacyo town, and they live surrounded by Majerteen from there fo Wardheer.

LL's beef with Sacad may have significantly decreased since Marehan resurged north once again with Wagardhac planting the flag of Saaxo right below Galdogob where the route to Dudub and Galadi enters Somalia, but they have significant problems with Sacad around the Saax Qurun area to Bandiiradley.

When Saaxo was planted and then subsequently defended, Sacad's tremendous retreat southeast from Dudub-Galdogob area back towards Bandiiradley saw concurrent expansion of Layl Kase. They and Sacad have just the same voltatile, insecure faultline as Sacad and Wagardhac, it is just the latter is much more animated and a threat to Sacad because of having lost the last bits of Gelinsoor grazing so it gives the impression there is peace between LL and Sacad.

Ugh, no.

Anigu nin Iriraan ahay siyaasadayduna waa bilaa xuduud. Somalia ma tihid kulaha anagoo container iskaga dhex qayilayna oo aan badiinaba Ku jirin saw adigu namaad soo miscalling. Reerka leelkase waxba haku soofayn sacad. Leelkase Ciday is hayaan waa cumar maxamuud. Xitaa biciid yahanka xaqooda waxa Ku fadhiya waa cumar maxamuud. Sacad waa same like habarjeclo. Cadaw isku midaanu leenahay.

[KacdoonSool]

Gubbet I did not know you came from money.... you are rich... I dont mind pimping myself to you....

[GalaadiGuardian]

No Majeerteen subclan will be able to mediate this conflict. Leelkase won’t accept a MJ sub’s mediating between their conflict with another MJ sub and RB are distrusting of any peace deals at this point.

This war will continue and get bloodier and bloodier until one is left standing, it’s the unfortunate truth.

[Gubbet]

No Majeerteen subclan will be able to mediate this conflict. Leelkase won’t accept a MJ sub’s mediating between their conflict with another MJ sub and RB are distrusting of any peace deals at this point.

This war will continue and get bloodier and bloodier until one is left standing, it’s the unfortunate truth.

Then it is time Mareexaan Mudug got involved especially Wagardhac; this is a direct strategic threat. It has to be resolved through mediation. These people are not "enemies." They are brothers stepping on each other's toes and slapping each other because of kibir and they both need to be told that.

[GalaadiGuardian]

No Majeerteen subclan will be able to mediate this conflict. Leelkase won’t accept a MJ sub’s mediating between their conflict with another MJ sub and RB are distrusting of any peace deals at this point.

This war will continue and get bloodier and bloodier until one is left standing, it’s the unfortunate truth.

Then it is time Mareexaan Mudug got involved especially Wagardhac; this is a direct strategic threat. It has to be resolved through mediation. These people are not "enemies." They are brothers stepping on each other's toes and slapping each other because of kibir and they both need to be told that.

There is a lot to gain for both sides to defeat the other. Speaking from my own perspective, we have subclan settlements in that part of Mudug that predate Leelkase ones. Painting one side as natives/sons of the soil and the other as encroachers from Doollo will only inflame existing tensions. This sort of thing happens all over Somalia

[Gubbet]

No Majeerteen subclan will be able to mediate this conflict. Leelkase won’t accept a MJ sub’s mediating between their conflict with another MJ sub and RB are distrusting of any peace deals at this point.

This war will continue and get bloodier and bloodier until one is left standing, it’s the unfortunate truth.

Then it is time Mareexaan Mudug got involved especially Wagardhac; this is a direct strategic threat. It has to be resolved through mediation. These people are not "enemies." They are brothers stepping on each other's toes and slapping each other because of kibir and they both need to be told that.

There is a lot to gain for both sides to defeat the other. Speaking from my own perspective, we have subclan settlements in that part of Mudug that predate Leelkase ones. Painting one side as natives/sons of the soil and the other as encroachers from Doollo will only inflame existing tensions. This sort of thing happens all over Somalia

No walaal---the phenomenon of "deegaan-barar" is real and, as you can see, with an identification. I did not come up with "deegaan-barar." The observation of conflict diffusion in Somalia yielded it. There is a difference between "living" somewhere in Somalia and "hegemonic" contest engaging in unnatural creation of new equity expressly at the expense of existing equity.

"Galdogob" is political constituency of Layl Kase just as "Galaadi" is political constituency of Bicidyahan and Gaalkacyo a political constituency of both. The fact that this is going on at this rate only relatively recently says clearly this is a "created" crisis.

You represent the Reer Bicidyahan viewpoint. Truthfully, I understand very well you represent the antagonist meaning you either have to be defeated by Latl Kase, or compelled to stop by Majerten. Otherwise you will not stop until you have Galdogob town itself. Every skirmish you win, the more skirmishes you start This is natural.

Essentially I am speaking to Cumar Maxamuud for a reason. They spent the entire fortune of Cumar Maxmuud building Garacad Port. Garacad's security and strategy is totally linked to Layl Kase lines being Puntland lines. Even more if you take into consideration the customs post at Tuurdibi. Cumar Maxmuud would be great fools to not seriously interject here. I can tell you that if Marehan the clan saw the actions of a sub-clan as strategically threatening they would bear down on that sub-clan like an angry bear and if that sub-clan refused to yield then all the other sub-clans will unite as a single opponent to force the single sub-clan to yield.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

No Majeerteen subclan will be able to mediate this conflict. Leelkase won’t accept a MJ sub’s mediating between their conflict with another MJ sub and RB are distrusting of any peace deals at this point.

This war will continue and get bloodier and bloodier until one is left standing, it’s the unfortunate truth.

Then it is time Mareexaan Mudug got involved especially Wagardhac; this is a direct strategic threat. It has to be resolved through mediation. These people are not "enemies." They are brothers stepping on each other's toes and slapping each other because of kibir and they both need to be told that.

There is a lot to gain for both sides to defeat the other. Speaking from my own perspective, we have subclan settlements in that part of Mudug that predate Leelkase ones. Painting one side as natives/sons of the soil and the other as encroachers from Doollo will only inflame existing tensions. This sort of thing happens all over Somalia

As Reer Gedood. Don’t fall for the politicians and their shenanigans. Take his advice

[Realone123]

gubbet actually LLs have been drilling water wells and creating villages over the last 5-10 years in both galdogob and gaalkacyo districts

hopefully this situation is resolved though although it will be tough since last weeks incident

[Gubbet]

gubbet actually LLs have been drilling water wells and creating villages over the last 5-10 years in both galdogob and gaalkacyo districts

hopefully this situation is resolved though although it will be tough since last weeks incident

Explain why you bring this up? Basically, Galdogob is Layl Kase primary equity and Galkacyo shared , recognized equity. I find them drilling wells and doing whatever else perfectly normal or harmless. I would find it the opposite if they were doing thia in Galaadi for instance as that is Bicidyahan primary equity.

[GalaadiGuardian]

gubbet actually LLs have been drilling water wells and creating villages over the last 5-10 years in both galdogob and gaalkacyo districts

hopefully this situation is resolved though although it will be tough since last weeks incident

Explain why you bring this up? Basically, Galdogob is Layl Kase primary equity and Galkacyo shared , recognized equity. I find them drilling wells and doing whatever else perfectly normal or harmless. I would find it the opposite if they were doing thia in Galaadi for instance as that is Bicidyahan primary equity.

Akhi, hundreds of Leelkases live in Galaadi. We allow them to establish however many settlements as they wish. Thousands of RB live in Galdogob, and they wish to stop us from doing the same. That seems unfair wouldn’t you say?