I strongly caution SSC forces from offensive aggression for land reconquest.

[Gubbet]

Take heed from Marehan and Habar Gidir in central Somalia where 3 decades after 1992, children in bush madarasa are no longer safe from being butchered.

My great-grandmother is Habar Gidir and even my father's great-grandmother.

Today there is not a single member of my extended family even married to Habar Gidir.

There are no more intermarriages between HG and Marehan Mudug.

There are no more visitors.

There are no Marehan travelers staying overnight in Cadaado and Guriceel and nor HG in Cabudwaaq and Balanbale.

Land is pitch battle and even ones where an entire new generation have formed are being retaken and cleaned out of all previous inhabitants.

And there is no end in sight really.

SSC is young, new, vibrant and rebuilding.

Nothing will sap energy from you like unending hostility of this nature.

Heed the lessons of central Somalia.

Choose a different path.

If Somaliland attacks you, defend yourself

But do not engage in offensive combat especially for grievances about land. There is more than enough land. Choose differently.

[Nomand]

i thought that as well, but i don't think it is comparable to HG VS MX but more with MJ vs HG. their border is quite safe, because MJ VS HG would be puntland vs galnus.

similarly DH vs isaaq would be SSC VS somaliland. so i think there will be a clear border soon because it will be two states and not two clans fighting over wells.

[original dervish]

This latest war was sparked by the murder of two Jamaac Siyad geeljires.

Listen to this HJ suldaan. He clearly explains how this latest war began.

It seems it was a HY false flag. The Suldaan says the perpetrators came from Oog, which is a HY town.

https://fb.watch/ocTjJp8BPU/?mibextid=Nif5oz

The war was never about land conquest. Thats why we halted our offensive on the iidoor/ Dhulbahante border.
However, these iidoor have flatly refused to accept our peace offers, and continue to make bellicose statements, while they bring thousands of men and armour onto our border.

Can you blame Dhulbahante if they launch preemptive strikes against the iidoor. If they want to fight for Lascaanood, we will fight for Aynaba.

[KacdoonSool]

WTF I am reading the Marehan warrior clan has turned into soft puusiies

We are going to drive the Isaaq clan totally out of Toghdheer not even the kids and the elderly will be left alone. We have the weapons and means and manpower and we have the entire darod clan behind us you dont get that kind of a chance twice in life. The Darod has always been an expansive clan do you think we conquered NFD and all those rivers farmland in Somali Galbeed by being kind nice people ? we took it from Oromo, Masai, and in the process we cleansed them with no compassion. And to the point of marriages, there has been no marriages between us and the Idoor since 1988 war.

[original dervish]

I wouldn't go as far as that ^^
The iidoors, particularly hj, need to be taught a good lesson in neighbourliness.

Their leaders are the main drivers of war against peaceful Dhulbahante .

They believed war would be in Lascaanood/ Sool.
Yet we have brought the smoke into the hj heartlands.

[Gubbet]

Nomand, MJ doesn't neighbor "HG." MJ neighbore a section of Sacad on both of their least populated boundary. Both the Darod and the Hawiye of central Somalia are in the Western 1/4 of the central Somalia bordering the Hawd including the towns of Gaalkacyo to Beled-Weyne.

Marehan neighbors "HG." We neighbor Sacad, Salebaan, and we neighbor Cayr. Gelinsoor, Cadaado, Dhusamareb, Guriceel, Matabaan etc etc etc are all just a couple kms from Marehan on the highway.

Dhulbahante resembles Marehan, not Majerten. They face all kinds of HJ even HY at Oog and so both the extent of population, the length of faultline or boundary and the nature of population dynamics says any initiation of this beast will birth for the Isaaq and Dhulbahante a Marehan and Hg circumstances.

K.C, life is not all about hostility and conquer. It is sad two Europeans speaking two different languages from two different cultures are more at peace than two fellow Somalis speaking the same language in two villages that can see each other.

[original dervish]

Of course it is a sad situation......two half starved, poverty stricken neighbours slaughtering each other.

However it must be noted......it was the iidoors whom launched the war in Lascaanood, as well as this latest round of hostilities.

Dhulbahante leadership have been offering the iidoors a full peace settlement for months, including the reopening of economic links.

The iidoor response has been to make blood curdling threats, and to amass men and arms along our border.

Personally, I believe the Dhulbahnte should launch devasting preemptive strikes on the iidoors, and remove the genocidal threat once and for all.

[Gubbet]

SSC leadership continues to impress me. Firdhiye with a clarion call regarding the need to choose differently to the instituting of community violence between Dhulbahante and their Isaaq neighbors

[original dervish]

What your failing to comprehend is that we don't not have a partner for peace among the iidoors.

The iidoors, having been soundly defeated at the battle of Goojacaade, have rebuffed all Dhulbahante peace overtures.

Most of their leaders and people are calling for a new war. They have re-armed and deployed 10,000 men and arms on our border.

They then began murdering our local geeljires.
What in heavens name do you want us to do....surrender?

[eliteSomali]

I don't think this is comparable at all. Dhulbahante can actually fight, and have gotten most of their land back while marehan are still missing the bulk of their lands. Dhusomareb and Gelinsor are two major cities that marehan has to get back from Habar Gidir before talking like galmudug wars isn't asymmetric.

[FarhanYare]

Voltage get to the point yaad is heesataan hg waa nation ee ma sacad, ma cayr, saleebaan mise saruur

[Gubbet]

I don't think this is comparable at all. Dhulbahante can actually fight, and have gotten most of their land back while marehan are still missing the bulk of their lands. Dhusomareb and Gelinsor are two major cities that marehan has to get back from Habar Gidir before talking like galmudug wars isn't asymmetric.

I can truly say you are a loser if you actually felt it relevant to write this because of and to me.

[Gubbet]

What your failing to comprehend is that we don't not have a partner for peace among the iidoors.

The iidoors, having been soundly defeated at the battle of Goojacaade, have rebuffed all Dhulbahante peace overtures.

Most of their leaders and people are calling for a new war. They have re-armed and deployed 10,000 men and arms on our border.

They then began murdering our local geeljires.
What in heavens name do you want us to do....surrender?

Sxb, I want SSC to rise, to develop, to become powerful---even the most powerful federal state more powerful than even Jubbaland or whatever. I am not delusional about the challenges in front of it including even that Muuse Biixi may be intent on sabotage through communal conflict and instigation. My interest is to see SSC be well protected from ever being distracted from its end goal.

[FarhanYare]

I don't think this is comparable at all. Dhulbahante can actually fight, and have gotten most of their land back while marehan are still missing the bulk of their lands. Dhusomareb and Gelinsor are two major cities that marehan has to get back from Habar Gidir before talking like galmudug wars isn't asymmetric.

I can truly say you are a loser if you actually felt it relevant to write this because of and to me.

[Gubbet]

I don't apologize for what I said. Look at the nonsense he wrote me in such a topic arguing for peace and end to Somali community conflict. He represents the most unlikeable deviant aspects of Somali behavior and character deficiencies. War iga tag hana iga hor imaan Eebaan ka codsadaye. Ismilaaah