Mustafe Cagjar names the 1st ever Marehan member to Somali Region, Ethiopia ministerial cabinet.

[Gubbet]

Because Somalia is nothing today, it doesn't necessarily mean it will be nothing tomorrow.

The one thing Somalis have going for them is that we are a homogeneous ethnic group with an internationally recognised state possessing huge resources. Very few ethnic groups in Africa can claim this, perhaps Namibia and Angola come closest.

As a starting point.....we're not in too bad a shape.
Yes, right now we're in the shiit with no clear path out.
However, nothing remains the same, especially in a rapidly changing world. As Muslims we are optimistic.

FOCK SOMALIA. THIS IS ETHIOPIA. IT WAS ETHIOPIA UNDER SIAD. IT WAS ETHIOPIA BEFORE HIM. IT IS ETHIOPIA NOW.

HOW ABOUT LAAS CAANOOD BE PART OF SOMALILAND AND STAY POWERLESS ? MAREHAN IS GOING TO GET REPRESENTATION IN ETHIOPIA---IN HIS LAND. MALAF MALAFTAADA MEEL KALE LA AAD NINYAHOO, XISHOOD WAAD DHAAFTAYE . GO TELL QABRIDAHAR TO THROW AWAY THEIR REPRESENTATION IN ETHIOPIA WAADIGA AFKA NAGU HAYEE

[Gubbet]

How any MX doesn't see this as a win baffles me. Congratulations to the minister.

SAXIIX. THERE IS NOT A SINGLE MAREHAN WHO IS SAYING OTHERWISE.

[Gubbet]

You're celebrating a dabodhilif post under a literal crusader state.

Crusader is the one using state resources to bomb and displace your people.

I don't disagree. Gubbet is talking Ethiopia which was literally built by crusades, which makes it a literal crusader state.

STFU WITH YOUR MANIPULATIVE NONSENSE. BACBACBACBAC GET OUT OF MY TOPIC!

[nine]

Nine,

When you bring a problem you have to bring the solution. Otherwise the objective of bringing up the problem gets lost. I agree with you 100% Ethiopia historically has proudly been a nation priding itself on being a christian kingdom, who later was in a conflict with Somalis of which religion was a significant factor. That said the only possible solution you could bring is throwing our weight 100% behind a Somali State, but what is your solution since they’re isn’t one?


Btw if we’re talking religion let’s not forget it was Ethiopian Christians who have the Prophet SAW safe haven. Also if we’re being fair in terms of dealings having dealt extensively with both Ethiopians, Somalis; Ethiopians are far away better people.

Gubbet is celebrating like it's a good thing to get to be a deputy for a regional minister instead of being pragmatic and transactional. Somalia and somalinimo is long gone its everyone for himself. But this is a small respite before being swallowed in the future.

[nine]

Absolutely. I am Bah Hawiye and though I claim 'Balanbale," I am not even from Balanbale. My father is from Shilaabo. My grandfather is from Shilaabo. My father's s mother, my grandmother is from Shilaabo. All of my father's siblings were born in Shilaabo. Do you know the last time my father saw his home village?, 1981. We were dispossessed in 1982---by Menguste with some Somalis riding with him. After dispossession with Ethiopian forces camped out on our land, other Somalis saw it as an opportunity and happily took advantage. And though the overwhelming majority of Marehan land on the central Plateau is intact, my family was the unfortunate minority. We have been dispossessed though in recent years we have taken some of it little by little. Fock your crusader and surface psychobabble about ethno-nationalist malaf malaf my friend. I am the only one who doesn't have a seat at the table over his land in the part of Somali territory internationally recognized as part of the State of Ethiopia. I am taking my mouthafocking seat. This is the PRACTICAL difference between having to defend myself against other Somali clan aggression and state sanctioned forces simultaneously vs making sure I have a say in how those state sanctioned forces behave towards me.

In general, fock ethno-nationalism---I focking hate it.

I don't care about your family history.
Ethnonationalist? We are not talking about that. You think being dabodhilif will help our ancestral land becoming an African West Bank. Getting a dabodhilif position will not change that. A minister's deputy not even a wasiir.

You are NOT Marehan and you pretended for too long. You are Ogaden with a Marehan grandmother in Baardheere. Now how about that and get out of Marehan business walaal.

You whose been singing kumbaya for OGs calling me OG. Go back to cooning for different qabiils you went from OGs to D&M to Abgaal (lol).

[Gubbet]

Sxb, nine, you don't even understand what I did because you are not us.

You clam MX/Rer Koshin. Look @ your response to 'my' family history.

It's NOT 'my' family history

It is 'ours' and I don't even mean Matehan or Marehan Bari, or Marehan Bari Rer Diini or even Marehan Bari Rer Diini Bah-Hawiye.

I mean Marehan Bari Rer Diini Bah Hawiye Rer Siyaad "AND" Rer Koshin.

Every single Rer Siyaad and Rer Koshin 'family' was affected, not even other Bah Hawiye at that rate.

What happened in Lababaar, Baarmagoog, Qalqalooc, Ulasan, Ceel Habreed, Ceelgaab altogether in the early 1980's period with rampaging national arsenal of Ethiopia directed at us specifically on his path to occupying Balanbale by Menguste Hailemariam as revenge against Siad's 1977 invasion is almost entirely a Rer Siyaad AND Rer Koshin story.

You are NOT Rer Koshin dude. End of story.

That's when I knew without a shadow of a doubt my long suspicion was correct.

Stop targeting my topics because that is your only purpose for this long con.

Goodbye my friend.

[nine]

Gubbet

I don't post my family history on here. I said before that I don't have extended relatives in the central regions. You're celebrating a regional minister's deputy like it changes anything (how well did it go for Janan)?

You're condemning me for being anti Ethiopian while talking about Ethiopian crimes against Reer Kooshin.

[Gubbet]

Nine,

When you bring a problem you have to bring the solution. Otherwise the objective of bringing up the problem gets lost. I agree with you 100% Ethiopia historically has proudly been a nation priding itself on being a christian kingdom, who later was in a conflict with Somalis of which religion was a significant factor. That said the only possible solution you could bring is throwing our weight 100% behind a Somali State, but what is your solution since they’re isn’t one?


Btw if we’re talking religion let’s not forget it was Ethiopian Christians who have the Prophet SAW safe haven. Also if we’re being fair in terms of dealings having dealt extensively with both Ethiopians, Somalis; Ethiopians are far away better people.

Gubbet is celebrating like it's a good thing to get to be a deputy for a regional minister instead of being pragmatic and transactional. Somalia and somalinimo is long gone its everyone for himself. But this is a small respite before being swallowed in the future.

I see only from somebody who is Abdi Ileey in Marehan-face. You will cry a lot more going by what I know. After 90 years---this is the 1st step overturning your delusional desperate bid to erase Marehan existence in his own historical land. Bacaaaaaac

[Gubbet]

Gubbet

I don't post my family history on here. I said before that I don't have extended relatives in the central regions. You're celebrating a regional minister's deputy like it changes anything (how well did it go for Janan)?

Bacaac

[nine]

Nine,

When you bring a problem you have to bring the solution. Otherwise the objective of bringing up the problem gets lost. I agree with you 100% Ethiopia historically has proudly been a nation priding itself on being a christian kingdom, who later was in a conflict with Somalis of which religion was a significant factor. That said the only possible solution you could bring is throwing our weight 100% behind a Somali State, but what is your solution since they’re isn’t one?


Btw if we’re talking religion let’s not forget it was Ethiopian Christians who have the Prophet SAW safe haven. Also if we’re being fair in terms of dealings having dealt extensively with both Ethiopians, Somalis; Ethiopians are far away better people.

Gubbet is celebrating like it's a good thing to get to be a deputy for a regional minister instead of being pragmatic and transactional. Somalia and somalinimo is long gone its everyone for himself. But this is a small respite before being swallowed in the future.

I see only from somebody who is Abdi Ileey in Marehan-face. You will cry a lot more going by what I know. After 90 years---this is the 1st step overturning your delusional desperate bid to erase Marehan existence in his own historical land. Bacaaaaaac

You calling me OG is laughable. Go back singing kumbaya for them.

[Gubbet]

Bro you are like bacteria no offense. For goodnessake, in the name of God, Islam, all that is good and holy, leave me and my topics alone. Stop targeting Marehan for 1 measely appointment after 90 years of attempted ethnic cleansing. Go target the other cabinet posts, go target there being a Mustace Cagjar as DDSI head, go target that there is a DDSI 'administration.'

Because this ISN'T about there being a DDSI administration or that there are all the other Somali communities who are perfectly in control of their equities reflecting the reality that this is land in Ethiopia.

This is about Marehan and it underscores the extent to which some have depended on even EXPECT to hoodwink Marehan with empty BULLSHIT about ethnic nationalism/irredentism.

I can tell you something---I am NOT your grandfather's Marehan. I am NOT even your DADDY's Marehan.

I'm NAM---New Age Marehan and this appointment and everything that has happened taking place after JUST 1 year of a group of us deciding to push Marehan towards a new direction after 90 years should tell you---you are effing with the wrong ones.

The crusades were 700 years ago----go fight it in your dreams. We are fighting for Marehan EQUITY---today.

[nine]

Gubbet

Sorry you were offended. Next time I hope I will be happy to see another generic maqaarsaar to add to the pile.

[Gubbet]

Gubbet

Sorry you were offended. Next time I hope I will be happy to see another generic maqaarsaar to add to the pile.

Nine, ceeb bey kugu tahay in aad wali i hortaagantahay sxb.

[Gubbet]

Waase ninkaan Murax, shaquu u baahanyahay in laga qabto. He is the 90 years Marehan we are in part fighting against ama afkuu MX ka yahay ee qalbiga ka maaha. Sbaashi ku wad hawsha, waa in uu wax fahmo ninkaan !

[Gubbet]

Gubbet,

I never said I’m anything more than ignorant on the historical backdrop of these issues which you have extensive knowledge of. I will review the links you sent.


On another note though I have no idea that you came to the conclusion that I opposed your views. Yes from a historical context I have the typical Somali irredentism views that I was raised on but I’m realistic enough to realize that’s silly fools gold now. For that I didn’t begrudge you for speaking positively of this political representation step for Beesha.


Maybe you think this is some sort of backhanded sarcasm from me but I don’t play bullshyt games like that. If I agree with you I agree with you if not I don’t. I truly believe Somalia is dead so salvaging what we can in actual functioning countries like Ethiopia, Kenya is completely understandable.

Walaal, Don't ''review" any link's'----just read this 'single' topic among them. Just that 1 t topic with 1 page. Read every post on that single page very slowly and clearly. That's all I ask.

For Murax, even if you read nothing else, read every single post in this topic very, very, very clearly.

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 4#p5063764