Which place in the Somali peninsula it’s the least tribalist

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Re: Which place in the Somali peninsula it’s the least tribalist

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Personally I am Oki with the mareexaans. I like the personality of all the ilka yar I know. They are very noble peaple Even though none of Them is reer diini.

politically I would never consider to give them any chance. I would rather side with a donkey or cagdheer, But personally I can trust my bank account with mareexaan than hawiye futo madoobe . It's complicated issue.
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Turbulence wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 12:05 am
FarhanYare wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 10:31 pm I have not seen an isaq ever in my life but based on the vitriol they unleash online, i would say same as darood. The continent i live in is predominantly darood when it comes to Somalida halkaan joogta so i tell you this from experience dont take it offence. Having said that daroodka isku mid maha maraxanka are not that outwardly rer badiye qabileste like kuwaan kale la yirah kablalax even if mareexaanka some of them are extreme they tend to not show it. Its very subtle.
Mareexaanka reserve the clannism and hatred for other Mareexaans but they are usually cool with all other clans. I tell you it is weird. lol
bro did i lie about kablalax being red neck cunsuri???
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Re: Which place in the Somali peninsula it’s the least tribalist

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^ Ustaad, refrain from using incendiary terms like " big redneck cunsiri" in reference to the great kablalax nation. Instead, use a more appropriate language and one that is more likely to contribute to the further fostering of intercommunal harmony/brotherhood among our people. For instance, in the future, make sure, if ever, for any reason whatsoever, occasion arises for you to invoke the sacred name of kablalax, kindly, do not neglect to add the customary, " the chosen people of the waaqs".
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Re: Which place in the Somali peninsula it’s the least tribalist

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barbarossa wrote: ^ Ustaad, refrain from using incendiary terms like " big redneck cunsiri" in reference to the great kablalax nation. Instead, use a more appropriate language and one that is more likely to contribute to the further fostering of intercommunal harmony/brotherhood among our people. For instance, in the future, make sure, if ever, for any reason whatsoever, occasion arises for you to invoke the sacred name of kablalax, kindly, do not neglect to add the customary, " the chosen people of the waaqs".
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Re: Which place in the Somali peninsula it’s the least tribalist

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Turbulence wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 12:05 am
FarhanYare wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 10:31 pm I have not seen an isaq ever in my life but based on the vitriol they unleash online, i would say same as darood. The continent i live in is predominantly darood when it comes to Somalida halkaan joogta so i tell you this from experience dont take it offence. Having said that daroodka isku mid maha maraxanka are not that outwardly rer badiye qabileste like kuwaan kale la yirah kablalax even if mareexaanka some of them are extreme they tend to not show it. Its very subtle.
Mareexaanka reserve the clannism and hatred for other Mareexaans but they are usually cool with all other clans. I tell you it is weird. lol
What MX reserve clannism and hatred for other MX? I used to think MX have a problem with intragroup drama until I learned about all other clans.

Sxb MX have less of a divisive problem socio-culturally than say within Cayr who are HG who are Hawiye.

There is not a single ceel or patch of grazing or water point or resource owned by a MX subclan that is either exclusive to them or outlawed to another MX.

Cayr, Sacad, and Saleebaan or Ciise Muuse and Sacad Muuse or Makaahiil and Reer Cabdille and forget Harti Abgaal and Wacbuudhan...do not share SETTLEMENTS, GRAZING, AND EVEN CEEL.

Forget Cayr and Saleebaan who are as "hostile" to each other like a Darod and Hawiye clans competing for resources, but Cayr REER AYAANLE and Farxaan's YABAR DHAWRLAKACE do not share CEEL. If Mahad Salaad's Weheliye Dhere tried to get water from Yavar's Lasaxaadoow, it will be war like Cayr and Saleebaan trying to get water each from Xananbuuro.

In fact, and SURPRISINGLY Mareexaan's socio-cultural unity and shared conceptualization of being a 1 single unit with shared purpose and destiny is rather even EXTRAORDINARY especially for a clan with MX's size and length of existence as an identifiable social unit.

It is even extraordinary so much that even Hawlraarsame's takxir is singularly unique among the Somali people because of Marehan keeping recognition and even protection over Hawlraarsame's xeer membership despite viciously treating him.

I explained it better here;
The Marehan Takxir or Suspension but NOT Excommunication of one of their own whose birthright was still recognized by every single clan member is a singularly unique circumstance---but when you take into consideration the Suspension while being heavily enforced was profoundly prevented from impacting even a single aspect of the legitimacy of their birthright and natural affirmation to the Marehan lineage the circumstance is astoundingly a unique outlier.

Clans bring IN men and then SELFISHLY erases their previous identity so the clan poaches or leeches more men of arms than they are able to produce (i.e. FREELY GAINS "permanent existing equity)"-----BUT in this case Marehan EXPELLED men while remarkably SELFLESSLY honoring their MAG "liability" (they will ensure their defense and equity if anyone else dared to take advantage of them is what honoring their birthright is).

So basically the clan as an aggregate lost value (an entire lineage's worth was suspended from the measurement of the clan's net worth) YET the clan decides to honor the obligations of defense and protection for that lineage whose value was made null and void (i.e. the mag obligation is therefore a 'debt' accruing perpetual interest). THIS HISTORICAL CIRCUMSTANCE OF THE MAREHAN 'TAKXIR" IS THE CLOSEST EXISTENCE OF "ALTRUISM" IN THE SOMALI CLAN SYSTEM. It is so ANTI-EVOLUTIONARY where the very fundamental Somali cultural features of survival are concerned, it is remarkably and profoundly and exceptionally unique. I don't even think Marehan themselves realize how unique this is or even both Marehan and Hawlrarsame recognize how incredibly poignant and intimate it is that brought that situation. This was a close knit family in which something unforgivable happened, but even if they forced an "ankle monitor" on their son, his incarceration was home with food, shelter, and protection of family

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 5#p5047904
Marehan is the most socially-complete compact in the Somali Xeer system.

What you incorrectly observe as something more than it is→politics.

Politics is about "ego" and Marehan has a big ego.

But when it comes to equity they are more united than most—

—so much so there is a Somali maahmaah about it ; MAREEXAAN DHIIGIIS LAYSMA TUSO.
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