Are you a wahabi??
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in societies where debating is allowed this is called analogy and is perfectly ccepted as a tool of discussion.
You and your followers in this thread based their whole rationale for the non existence of wahabbism not on practise or lack thereof, ideology or fact but on the rather infantile assertion that wahabbism does not exist because no one calls themselves thus.
So here is the anology: Paedophiles do not call themselves paedophiles either. does paedophilia exist?
Actually lets use another concept closer to your hate-filled little heart: zionism. Since hardly any Israelis call themselves zionists does that make Zionism non-existent? How about fascism? Does tha exist? How many people will say theyare fascists today?
Do you see ludicrous your convulted little argument can be dismantled?
You and your followers in this thread based their whole rationale for the non existence of wahabbism not on practise or lack thereof, ideology or fact but on the rather infantile assertion that wahabbism does not exist because no one calls themselves thus.
So here is the anology: Paedophiles do not call themselves paedophiles either. does paedophilia exist?
Actually lets use another concept closer to your hate-filled little heart: zionism. Since hardly any Israelis call themselves zionists does that make Zionism non-existent? How about fascism? Does tha exist? How many people will say theyare fascists today?
Do you see ludicrous your convulted little argument can be dismantled?
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Of course, there are paedophiles who call themselves paedophiles. Equally, there are Zionists who call themselves Zionists. Google proves that:
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Contradiction:
>hardly any Israelis call themselves zionists
vs.
>these are small in numbers just like those who openly admit being Zionists.
Indeed, as Google has proven there's no Wahhabi who calls him/herself Wahhabi, there's a paedophile who calls him/herself paedophile, and a Zionist who calls him/herself Zionist- the point is very clear.
>hardly any Israelis call themselves zionists
vs.
>these are small in numbers just like those who openly admit being Zionists.
Indeed, as Google has proven there's no Wahhabi who calls him/herself Wahhabi, there's a paedophile who calls him/herself paedophile, and a Zionist who calls him/herself Zionist- the point is very clear.
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[quote="Mowhawk"]Muslim Man
Hadaadaan aheen wahaabi isu dhaaf Arabman iyo Law26. Otherwise we may got involved. Wahabis do exist.
Believe me it is futile to ask for restrain from Law when others don't.[/quote]
mowhawk,
I am not a wahabis are you one?
"We may got involved"
You are welcome to join the discussion but may i ASK when you say "we may got involved" adiga iyo yaa kale ???
Btw, this is not a contest between the law26 and arab-man. i craeted this topic and anyone is welcome to express their opinion.
This topic was opened to specifically ask the frommers if they were wahabis since the law26 has on numerous occasions clamied we have dangerous people called wahabis operating on this medium whose job is to brain wash the little kids or naive grown ups serving somalinet. He has shot himself on the foot and has never returned since.
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Believe me it is futile to ask for restrain from Law when others don't"
I dont undersatnd what you mean by the above statement. i assume you meant to say law26 will never give up and will come back to continue his tirades. hadaad saas kawadid i agree with you 100% waayo ilahey subxana tacala qofka fidnada musliminta ka shaqeyo wuu la qurxiyaa shaqada uuhayo isagoo umaleynayo inuu shaqa fiican hayo, waqtiyuuna siyaa oo katib qabasha adag ayuu qabtaa. so let him continute with his eveil work and he will insahllah bear the fruits of his work.
Hadaadaan aheen wahaabi isu dhaaf Arabman iyo Law26. Otherwise we may got involved. Wahabis do exist.
Believe me it is futile to ask for restrain from Law when others don't.[/quote]
mowhawk,
I am not a wahabis are you one?
"We may got involved"
You are welcome to join the discussion but may i ASK when you say "we may got involved" adiga iyo yaa kale ???
Btw, this is not a contest between the law26 and arab-man. i craeted this topic and anyone is welcome to express their opinion.
This topic was opened to specifically ask the frommers if they were wahabis since the law26 has on numerous occasions clamied we have dangerous people called wahabis operating on this medium whose job is to brain wash the little kids or naive grown ups serving somalinet. He has shot himself on the foot and has never returned since.
"
Believe me it is futile to ask for restrain from Law when others don't"
I dont undersatnd what you mean by the above statement. i assume you meant to say law26 will never give up and will come back to continue his tirades. hadaad saas kawadid i agree with you 100% waayo ilahey subxana tacala qofka fidnada musliminta ka shaqeyo wuu la qurxiyaa shaqada uuhayo isagoo umaleynayo inuu shaqa fiican hayo, waqtiyuuna siyaa oo katib qabasha adag ayuu qabtaa. so let him continute with his eveil work and he will insahllah bear the fruits of his work.
Last edited by muslim-man on Sun Dec 25, 2005 10:50 am, edited 1 time in total.
Muslim Man
What is the use of initiating topics that only divide and cause fitna among Muslims? You have started topics about Sufis and now Wahabis, and why can't we get all along, whether one is a shia, sunni, wahabi, Ismaili or any one of the tens of different sects of Muslims? We had heated discussions about those issues and given that we are Somalis, and Arabman (being a self hating Somali and a lover of everything Arab), it won't help anyone's Iimaan as a Muslim, and it will only become nasty. We all know Wahabis do exist, so let them worship Allah in peace.
I know Law for many years, and indeed he is a good Muslim, and may I add a loud one too. I wrote to him and pleaded with him to refrain from discussing this topic. As you can see who else got involved, so it is better to focus on what unites us as Muslims, rather than indulge in what divides us. If you wanna continue with this, then do it with Galol and Arabman, and I hope that Law sticks to his pomise.
What is the use of initiating topics that only divide and cause fitna among Muslims? You have started topics about Sufis and now Wahabis, and why can't we get all along, whether one is a shia, sunni, wahabi, Ismaili or any one of the tens of different sects of Muslims? We had heated discussions about those issues and given that we are Somalis, and Arabman (being a self hating Somali and a lover of everything Arab), it won't help anyone's Iimaan as a Muslim, and it will only become nasty. We all know Wahabis do exist, so let them worship Allah in peace.
I know Law for many years, and indeed he is a good Muslim, and may I add a loud one too. I wrote to him and pleaded with him to refrain from discussing this topic. As you can see who else got involved, so it is better to focus on what unites us as Muslims, rather than indulge in what divides us. If you wanna continue with this, then do it with Galol and Arabman, and I hope that Law sticks to his pomise.
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mowhawk.
stick to the topic and stop throwing cheap shots at me. you know very well my intentions is not to devide the ummah. the topic about the sufis has been dealt and is over. it was intended to help someone and i hope they benefited from it.
the topic of the discussion is about the wahabists and wether they exist on this forum or not as claimed by the law26. this is not the first time your so called good muslim brother has used this term to devide the muslims on this board accusing the siters/brothers of copy pasting their work from the wahabis sites. I have said there is none. the onus is on him to prove otherwise .
also, why are you are making it appear as if arab-man is worser than galool?? i have known arab-man for almost three years now and what i have seen is, he is a victim of a well organised hate campaign spearheaded by the law26. he has with help of his footsoldiers mostly kafirs craeted an enviroment very hostile to pro arab and pro islam issues. etc etc. brother arab-man a very decent brother. I have also seen very decent brothers calling him names because of what was about him by this hate mob. may Alah break their necks. i wasn't here when he supported a particular tribe or whatever so spare me the nonsense of he used to do this and that once upon a time.
P.S why did you send him message to tell him to zip it now?? where were you when he initiated a topic about me few weeks ago?? where were you when he silenced the brother named bushman after he brought to us a very usefull islamic article?? where were you when the law was insulting the dead siyat bare? what soo good muslim about digging cebaha muslimiinta and isnulting the dead?? war niyahow iska cadeeyso waxaado oo nadheh me and the law26 work for the same peope.
Stop the threats and bringforth evidence to show wahabis exist or get lost.
stick to the topic and stop throwing cheap shots at me. you know very well my intentions is not to devide the ummah. the topic about the sufis has been dealt and is over. it was intended to help someone and i hope they benefited from it.
the topic of the discussion is about the wahabists and wether they exist on this forum or not as claimed by the law26. this is not the first time your so called good muslim brother has used this term to devide the muslims on this board accusing the siters/brothers of copy pasting their work from the wahabis sites. I have said there is none. the onus is on him to prove otherwise .
also, why are you are making it appear as if arab-man is worser than galool?? i have known arab-man for almost three years now and what i have seen is, he is a victim of a well organised hate campaign spearheaded by the law26. he has with help of his footsoldiers mostly kafirs craeted an enviroment very hostile to pro arab and pro islam issues. etc etc. brother arab-man a very decent brother. I have also seen very decent brothers calling him names because of what was about him by this hate mob. may Alah break their necks. i wasn't here when he supported a particular tribe or whatever so spare me the nonsense of he used to do this and that once upon a time.
P.S why did you send him message to tell him to zip it now?? where were you when he initiated a topic about me few weeks ago?? where were you when he silenced the brother named bushman after he brought to us a very usefull islamic article?? where were you when the law was insulting the dead siyat bare? what soo good muslim about digging cebaha muslimiinta and isnulting the dead?? war niyahow iska cadeeyso waxaado oo nadheh me and the law26 work for the same peope.
Stop the threats and bringforth evidence to show wahabis exist or get lost.
Last edited by muslim-man on Sun Dec 25, 2005 5:40 pm, edited 2 times in total.
I will get lost, but I pray that your next topic will not be;
"Are Shia's Muslims"?
I always communicate with people discreetly to maintain the peace. If you look at the Siad Barre topic, I chastised for all those who made negative comments about the marxuum. So go ahead with your mind blowing topics. I will get lost.
"Are Shia's Muslims"?
I always communicate with people discreetly to maintain the peace. If you look at the Siad Barre topic, I chastised for all those who made negative comments about the marxuum. So go ahead with your mind blowing topics. I will get lost.
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[quote="Galol"]What do we have? The OBL choir-group with one Arab serving as a conductor with ugly fat black bunch singing behind him in unison?
Muslim-man are really so dumb that you do not even notice your own contradiction? You say there is no such thing as wahabbism and tell us its history! Has your camel-piss filled kombo mind dried up completely?
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galol,
what contradiction??
this is what i wrote kafir-man incase you missed it.
" am not a wahabi (even though the law26 preffers me to call me one)neither do i know of anyones that calls themselves wahabi. but what i do know is, there was a pious shikh named muhamad abdulwahab who was born in the Arabia during a period when theMuslims of Arab and non-Arabs were in the darkness of ignorance, and they had deviated from the way of the Quran and Hadith. Polytheism was spread among Muslims, who were practising worship of some pious people through Du'a, singing around their graves,calling them for assistance, making sacrifice for them etc. The above named shikh came to being (alhamdulillah) He struggled very hard preaching the true teachings of the Prophet Muhammad (Blessings and peace of Allah be upon him). god bless his soul. this was work of the prophet scw and what every true believer should undertake. if i partake what he did (very difficult for me since my iman is evry weak) i am following the sunnah of the prophet and not his (abdiwahabs) sunnah"
where is wahabis in the above paragraph??
P.S you are a kafir and have no place in this discussion. spare us your lecture.
Muslim-man are really so dumb that you do not even notice your own contradiction? You say there is no such thing as wahabbism and tell us its history! Has your camel-piss filled kombo mind dried up completely?
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galol,
what contradiction??
this is what i wrote kafir-man incase you missed it.
" am not a wahabi (even though the law26 preffers me to call me one)neither do i know of anyones that calls themselves wahabi. but what i do know is, there was a pious shikh named muhamad abdulwahab who was born in the Arabia during a period when theMuslims of Arab and non-Arabs were in the darkness of ignorance, and they had deviated from the way of the Quran and Hadith. Polytheism was spread among Muslims, who were practising worship of some pious people through Du'a, singing around their graves,calling them for assistance, making sacrifice for them etc. The above named shikh came to being (alhamdulillah) He struggled very hard preaching the true teachings of the Prophet Muhammad (Blessings and peace of Allah be upon him). god bless his soul. this was work of the prophet scw and what every true believer should undertake. if i partake what he did (very difficult for me since my iman is evry weak) i am following the sunnah of the prophet and not his (abdiwahabs) sunnah"
where is wahabis in the above paragraph??
P.S you are a kafir and have no place in this discussion. spare us your lecture.
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[quote="Galol"]What do we have? The OBL choir-group with one Arab serving as a conductor with ugly fat black bunch singing behind him in unison?
Muslim-man are really so dumb that you do not even notice your own contradiction? You say there is no such thing as wahabbism and tell us its history! Has your camel-piss filled kombo mind dried up completely?
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galol,
what contradiction??
this is what i wrote kafir-man incase you missed it.
" am not a wahabi (even though the law26 preffers me to call me one)neither do i know of anyones that calls themselves wahabi. but what i do know is, there was a pious shikh named muhamad abdulwahab who was born in the Arabia during a period when theMuslims of Arab and non-Arabs were in the darkness of ignorance, and they had deviated from the way of the Quran and Hadith. Polytheism was spread among Muslims, who were practising worship of some pious people through Du'a, singing around their graves,calling them for assistance, making sacrifice for them etc. The above named shikh came to being (alhamdulillah) He struggled very hard preaching the true teachings of the Prophet Muhammad (Blessings and peace of Allah be upon him). god bless his soul. this was work of the prophet scw and what every true believer should undertake. if i partake what he did (very difficult for me since my iman is evry weak) i am following the sunnah of the prophet and not his (abdiwahabs) sunnah"
where is wahabis in the above paragraph??
P.S you are a kafir and have no place in this discussion. spare us your lecture.
Muslim-man are really so dumb that you do not even notice your own contradiction? You say there is no such thing as wahabbism and tell us its history! Has your camel-piss filled kombo mind dried up completely?
{quote]
galol,
what contradiction??
this is what i wrote kafir-man incase you missed it.
" am not a wahabi (even though the law26 preffers me to call me one)neither do i know of anyones that calls themselves wahabi. but what i do know is, there was a pious shikh named muhamad abdulwahab who was born in the Arabia during a period when theMuslims of Arab and non-Arabs were in the darkness of ignorance, and they had deviated from the way of the Quran and Hadith. Polytheism was spread among Muslims, who were practising worship of some pious people through Du'a, singing around their graves,calling them for assistance, making sacrifice for them etc. The above named shikh came to being (alhamdulillah) He struggled very hard preaching the true teachings of the Prophet Muhammad (Blessings and peace of Allah be upon him). god bless his soul. this was work of the prophet scw and what every true believer should undertake. if i partake what he did (very difficult for me since my iman is evry weak) i am following the sunnah of the prophet and not his (abdiwahabs) sunnah"
where is wahabis in the above paragraph??
P.S you are a kafir and have no place in this discussion. spare us your lecture.
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