galol...

[sabad]

Bismillah ar-Rahman ar-Raheem

all praise and thanks are for ALLAH, Lord of all the worlds, and may he send blessings and peace upon the chief of all prophets and messengers, and upon his family, his noble companions and whoever follows the path of his guidance until the day of judgement.

first of all i don't understand why you are so concerned about religion. according to you, God does not exist, but you seem to be so interested in nothing else,but talking him.

why would you always discuss something that does not exist in your eyes, don't you have confidence in your belief? if you are as intelligent as you claim ask yourself why you are so interested in what ''dumb people'' believe in, and why you are keep debating about what doesn't exist.

in the Quran its stated that the unbeliever is one who neither recognises not appreciates the signs of ALLAH. as you claim, we muslims don't only follow what we have been told by our proghets (SAW), but also ALLAH has given us the brain to ponder, and the ability to see all the signs and proofs. we know nothing has been created in vain and can realise the power and great art of ALLAH everywhere and find ways to revere him.

''with it (the earth) he produces for you corn, olives, date palms, grapes and every kind of fruit: verily, in this is a sign for those who give thought'' (surat an-Nahl, 16:11)

think of the above mentioned items..

the date palm, as its well known , grows up from a seed out of the earth. from this tiny seed, which is not even 1 cubic centimetre in size, arises an enormous wooden mass of 4-5 metres long and hundreds of kilograms in weight. the only thing that the seed can use while constituting this great mass is the earth in which its burried,

ask yourself this...

how can a seed know how to form a tree? how can it reason to decompose the necessary substances in the soil to create wood? how can it predict the required shape and structure? this tree is a complex living organism with roots for assimilating substances from the earth, with veins and with branches that are perfectly organised. a human being has difficulty in drawing even a picture of a tree, while on the contrary a simple seed can produce such an extremely complex object by merely using substances in the soil.

so do you think a seed is more intelligent and wise, than a humans?

ALLAH has created the universe to show the signs of his creation, but for the unbeliever he cannot understand this fact, he does not have the ability to see this devine purpose, ''they have eyes with which they don't see'' surat al-Araf, 7:179)

since you are very interested in ISLAM, why not read the Quran with an open mind and without the hatred, that is where you will find the truth, not here in somalinet.

[dhuusa_deer]

[quote="sabad"]Bismillah ar-Rahman ar-Raheem[quote]

Wasalaam waraxmaan wa barakuuutaa!


[quote]why would you always discuss something that does not exist in your eyes, don't you have confidence in your belief? [quote]


A great question! It's been bothering me myself for quite sometime. To be honest I had many sleepless nights searching for an answer. Then one day, like bolt from the blue, the answer was revealed to me: what is real is what we sincerely believe. Think about it. What is 'real?' What we believe or what is real? Wait a minute, how can the two be decoupled? Complicating stuff no arguement. Let me break down for you:

if ppl believe in Mother Goose, read Mother Goose, pray to Mother Goose and fear Mother Goose... then for all practical purposes Mother Goose is real.

Same with Allah. He exists... inside muslim minds. All else aside, he exists and is very real.

[LionHeart-112]

^^Galol's puppet/spokesperson/boy-toy/slave/worshipper is here to answer on behalf of galol.

[Cawar]

Duusa, Somathing must be bothering you...all you do is talk, talk and talk some more about Allah, Islam...so you really have a problem here...maybe an OCD??? If you dont believe the let it go and let other be...and plz dont tell me as I am tired of it...that muslims will kill you and such...no body realy wants to hurt your paranoid arse...not woth IT.

[LionHeart-112]

Cawar...it's realyl amazing walahi. For people who don't believe in Allah, they do nothing but talk about Him daily. It's a really verging on "yaab"

[dhuusa_deer]

[quote="Cawar"] If you dont believe the let it go and let other be...and plz dont tell me as I am tired of it...that muslims will kill you and such...no body realy wants to hurt your paranoid arse...not woth IT.[/quote]

I wish I can let Islam go and wash my hands of it. Unfortunetly Islam won't let me. Apostasy laws deny me that right. How can I leave Islam when it is hunting me down. Unless of course you're saying there is no apsotasy laws in Islam, you're being a little evasive and hypocritical. Why ignore the obviously true? We both know in Sharia Law run country my head will be sawed off for leaving Islam.

Allah says in the Quran nonbelievers are: dumb, deaf and blind... kill them where ever you find them... don't be friends with them... they're worst of all ppls... bla bla bla. THAT is what YOUR God is instructing you to do to Kafirs like me. Your prophet said in Sahih Bukhari that if a muslim leaves Islam, kill him!

Unarguably former muslims face severe social ostracism in EVERY community on earth. There is not a single exception. Find me anywhere play in the muslim world where apostasy is accepted by public at large?

So, lets have a serious discussion. Please defend why I should be killed or severly ostracised for leaving Islam? A question EVERY1 avoids but lies at the heart of ALL former muslim, current muslim disagreements.

[LionHeart-112]

"Unarguably former muslims face severe social ostracism in EVERY community on earth"

HALLELUJAH...PRAISE GOD!


You are the scum of our society and you should be put out of your misery.

[same]

Sabaad,
Is it forbidden to discuss about the existence of god?
I don't think so.

[salafi_student]

[quote="LionHeart-112"]^^Galol's puppet/spokesperson/***-***/slave/worshipper is here to answer on behalf of galol. [/quote]



Spot-on

Instigator of this post: Salafi brother.....

[sabad]

dd..

your name is not galol and nobody wants to kill your worthless self..stop being so paranoid. and keep working for satan..but be warned he will not be there for you when you need him.

same..

reread what i wrote and tell me where i say its forbidden to discuss the existence of God..or are you one of those paranoid kafirs too?

[Galol]

Sabad

Are you saying you are open to persuasion in terms of existence of God?

I am here to be persuaded. If you have a convincing argument for Allah's existence I will accept him!

But there is a catch: If I persuade you `he' does not exist and that you believe in lies will you accept that?