In 2 days, “Iran is about to unleash another WMD"

[Gedo_Boy]

guys recently I have been seeing some political noise coming from the EU & the UN & US about Somalia.....do you think this has anything to do w/ it - Somalia's potential reserves.......

China recently forgave $350 million in previous debt & gave the govt $100k for initial expenses.....they also condemned countries violating arms embargo

UN is hiring more in Somalia w/ high level envoys

Italy is investigating the unknown tankers on the soil

US recently was in Mog/Jowhar

A few Scandinavian countries have been providing assistance

[michael_ital]

Great post Mow. One of the better one's in a long time.

GB, it stands to reason that geologists for the big oil companies have probably reported findings of resource deposits. hence the flurry of activiy.

[Af_libaax]

Mowhawk

America is still militarily Super Power with significant scale of Warmachine technology but the economic trend is shifting and there are Super economic Powers emerging especially China and European , The trade deficit in those countries is rocking the American treasury department , printing more green Papers ever before ,,,, even forcing America to sell its forbidden Nuke technology to India to off balance militarily China dominance in far east Asia . having said that America will Use its defence Power to Neutralize any threat for its interests . So my friend Caracas and Tehran are inviting B2 Picnic .

[Gedo_Boy]

dhuusa dheer,

remember from history class, the world ALWAYS re-structures to maintain a balance of power

one thing you're forgetting is that even though the US economy is dynamic, Europe & Asia NOW have the knowhow to provide the manufacturing capabilities the US has.....think about it, everything from simple electronics (Made In China), to cars (Honda, Toyota, VW, BMW), to even civil infrastructure and planes (AIRBUS)........the US had the advantage b/c they had a head start decades ago after reigning supreme in WW2 w/ every Euro country indebted to them & protecting them from the Soviet boogeyman and they had control on world oil which indirectly controls world economies.........If 2 OPEC heavy hitters accept only Euros, that is a monumentous step with China already looking to diversify and Russia becoming more nationalistic and sitting on mountains of natural resources


Af-libaax,

even B2s run on oil and Iran can wreak so much havoc economically in 2 days that the whole world will turn upside down.

Read that article Mohawk posted up, even if Iran's facilities were hit and setback 2-4 years, they could literally sink and block oil from leaving the Gulf and that could spark major ripple effects around the world.

the world always shifts to maintain a balance of power, and it looks like poor policies and shortsightedness of the Bush administration are affecting the US leadership in the world.

it seems like Bush is stuck btwn the proverbial rock 'n hard place, either attack Iran and start WW3 or don't attack let 'em get nukes and the world is already sick enough of US hegemony that economically the US loses more and more confidence in the Euro street, Asian street, & Arab street. I think either way the shift is already starting........

the US is having trouble enough as it is in Iraq where a rag tag insurgency is holding down 130k US active/reserve duty soldiers.......don't forget 13 yrs of sanctions and bombing reduced the Iraqi army to nothing before the US invaded, whereas Iran IS numerically and technologically FAR more advanced than the Iraqi army was.

and I think the Europeans are secretly welcoming the Iran stock market change to the Euro b/c that means the financial capital changes to Europe and China is now officially a member of the Oilaholics Anonymous support group and they want a direct pipeline to Iran and were already in the process of diversifying from the US $.........

the US still has the Gulf oil by the balls, but now they will have to at least be open to the possibility of taking Euros as payment.

[Mowhawk]

Gedo-boy

Good analysis and I agree with you. The major headache for the Americans is that they have been exposed their limitations by the invassion of Iraq and today, they desperately need the assistance of the Iranians. However, if things come to worse and they are desperate, they may use the threats of air superiority and their nuclear capabilities.

You mentioned;

"the US still has the Gulf oil by the balls, but now they will have to at least be open to the possibility of taking Euros as payment."

I can't see this happening yet, as these regimes believe that their own security issues is better served to be on the American side. I maybe wrong, but things are happening right now and could change anytime. Also, as Gurey mentioned it will take sometime all those changes to materialise.

As the U.N, E.U recent interests in Somalia, I think it emanates from America's "war on terror", and the idea is based on the premise that if Somalia becomes a terrorist haven, many Somalis in the diaspora will be attracted to join their brethens, and then there is no safe Europe and North America. There are Geman, American and other troops stationed in Jibouti and Ethiopia for that purpose. Ask Mad Mac and on behalf of the Yankees, he can shed some more light on this issue .

Michael

No worries mate, and get out from Vagin.a and d.ick inspection topics, join and share with us your lefty rebelious Canadian side.

[Gedo_Boy]

Mohawk,

do you believe that the "terrorism" claim is a real concern or do you think that the US is just trumping it up to gain a strategic foothold in the area b4 the Europeans or Chinese claim Somalia into their sphere of influence.....cause the Chinese are doing brisk business in Sudan w/ oil extraction

[Af_libaax]

Gedo_Boy


Come on Yes America is feeling the impct of economic syndrome comes with Euros , but the American economy is too big almighty $$$$$ and it will take more than Iran and Venesuela to have any tangible changes , besides America has the largest airpower and Warships in the Khalij area , and the facts are those Arab rich Oil countries don't trust anything related about Iran either economic front nor Nuclear technology and they will definitately stick with the devil they know ,. America deosn't see this only as political confrontation but it sees as an Economic and Security issues ,and the more Iran inflames the American patient , America will not rest untill Iran abandons it bid for Nuclear capabilities . if Not the set backs are already under Way mini Nukes that can penetrate deeply the Mullah bunkers OOOP Nuclear facilities

[Gedo_Boy]

we're not talking about airpower, remember that Iran doesn't need to do much to create chaos in world markets......you see how much oil prices rise with just diplomatic talk, imagine if Iran sinks a few oil tankers.........that's a serious economic price for everybody involved which will disrupt world markets......then the US has to mount a ground invasion to change anything.......tit 4 tat can lead to a long difficult struggle.

[Af_libaax]

Gedo_Boy

We have seen this movies before Operation dessert storm Iraq has the second largest arm in the world and it will create havoc in the world economy, all become Nonsense , altho the difference this time is America has air bases in Iraq and The Gulf countries , absolutely America will Not send ground troops to invade Iran but most likely Cruse and Airpower will be the Options .lets see what the Mullahs are hidding

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[Gedo_Boy]

adiga you watched too much RAMBO as a kid


yes, but Iraq was 13 years in sanctions and military didn't exist, now the US has civil war in Iraq, do you think they can transfer American troops to Iran.......plus, Iraqi oil was not as important as Iranian oil b/c of the sanctions/embargo

American troops were in Kuwait for years and Iraq didn't have any missles, Iran already occupies islands that control the flow of Gulf traffic and their missles are far more advanced.......we're not talking about who will win, the question is at what cost? and how much can it destabilize the world

[Af_libaax]

Home_boy ----- What You talking about !

listen my statements are just the facts how things done todays world,I am not a rocket scientist but I can see things are repeating itself again & again
its best interest of Iran to back off , You remember early eighties Iraqs Nuclear facilities were destroyed by Isreal with the support of US intlligence and at the same time Saddam was used brutal War against Iran with more than 8 years . tell me why will be different at this time ?
which America has more power resources close to Iranian borders , The Iraq civil war was part of the Plan , it was chosen Bhagdad to be the terrorist battlefield .