A Refutation of those that say ‘Mother Nature’ Shapes Na

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A Refutation of those that say ‘Mother Nature’ Shapes Natural Design


...Who was it who managed all that, perfected it, directed it and controlled it in the best way?

Someone might, if he were one of the depraved, say: It is the work of nature; there are wonderful things in nature. To such a debater we say: If Allaah had let your heart, you would yourself have refuted such a statement by replying: Tell me about this nature, is it self-sustained, having knowledge, and having the ability to contrive those wonders? Or is it not? Is it not rather just an abstract quality and a display of the visible things around? If the answer occurs to you: It is an independent entity with full knowledge, ability, will and wisdom, say: What you describe is the Creator, the Author and Shaper, so why do you call Him nature? Forget about what the naturalists dictate and turn to what Allaah has taught humans to call Him in the words of His messengers, and if you do you will be one of the happy and wise folk. Why attribute to nature the attributes that belong to Allaah?

If, on the other hand, the adversary says: Nature is an abstract quality, a display in need of an agent, and all that we witness of its accomplishments brought about without nature having knowledge, will, ability, or even the mere consciousness of what it is producing. All that we see is evidence of nature's achievements, and then the reply should be that no sane person would accept this reasoning. Do you really believe that the amazing actions and subtle contrivances that we see in this world, that no mind can fathom or fully appreciate, are made by an agent that itself has no thinking, ability, wisdom or feeling? Would anyone believe such reasoning but a madman or an animal?

You may further add: If what you claim were true, I would be clear that such an abstract quality cannot have created itself or originated itself, so who is its Lord, Maker and Originator? Who enabled it to do all that? This logic is a most decisive piece of evidence in favour of believing in the Originator and Maker of nature, in the infinity of His ability, knowledge and wisdom. Indeed, this group has gained nothing by denying the Lord and His Attributes and Actions. They merely abolish the intellect and innate intuition. Nature itself would discredit such logic: it in fact contradicts mind, innate intuition, nature and even humanity, and it has caused the most ignorant and deluded attitudes that one can cause. If one does concede what the mind dictates and admits that it is not possible to have wise effects without the agency of a wise, able and knowing entity; that it is not possible to have well-controlled effects without here being a maker who is able, autonomous, in control of things, aware of what he is doing, not frustrated or overwhelmed by what he is doing - if one concedes that much then the right answer to such a person would be: What is the matter with you? When you accept the necessity of a great Creator beside whom no other god exists, and no other lord, stop calling Him nature or the ‘self-active mind’ or such appellations. Say instead: What I describe is Allaah, the Creator, the Originator, the Shaper, Lord of the Worlds, Sustainer of the heavens and the earth, Lord of the east and the west, He who made excellent all that He created, and perfected what He crafted. Do not deny His Names and Attributes and Self and attribute His making to another and His creation to someone else. You have to concede His existence, and attribute to Him authorship, creation, lordship and control. There is no other way, praised is Allaah, Lord of the Worlds.

The Meaning of Nature

By reconsidering the word ‘nature’ in this context, you will be led directly to the Creator, the Originator, as the common mind understands the word. That is because this word ‘nature’ (Arabic: tabee’ah) means that something was made by someone to behave according to a preset plan, and there is no other meaning at all. The word ‘nature’ is of the same class of words as ‘instinct’, ‘disposition’, ‘temperament’, ‘an animal’s or a human’s nature’, and the like. An animal has been made to react to stimuli, a reaction which is ingrained in it. It is self-evident that a ‘nature’ without a ‘nature-maker’ is impossibility: The very word, then, points to the Maker, the Almighty, just as its meaning indicates. Muslims believe that nature is one of Allaah's creations, that it is under control, tamed and that this is part of His law operative among His creations; that He manages it the way He wills, and when He wills, so that He may deny it any aspect of its power when He wills, and reverse any of its effects when He wills, so that His servants may see that He alone is the Creator, the Originator, the Shaper, and that He creates whatever He wills, and in the way He wills. This is the meaning of the following verse from the Qur’aan:

“Verily, His Command, when He intends a thing, is only that He says to it, ‘Be!’ and it is!” (Qur’aan, 36:82)

Nature, which his the utmost that those short-sighted lot can perceive, is no more than a creature of the Lord, equal in that to any of His creations. Considering this, how would a human, with the least bit of humanity or thinking, be blind to its being made to behave as it behaves, and how would he attribute to it making and originating! Time and again Allaah halts its power, alters it and reverses it, so that it does the opposite of what it originally did, all to illustrate to His servants that it is His creation and making, that it is controlled by Him. That much can be supported by this verse from the Qur’aan:

“His is the Creation and Commandment. Blessed be Allaah, the Lord of the 'Alameen (mankind, jinn’s and all that exists)!” (Qur’aan, 7:54)

By Imaam ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyyah
Taken from: Men & the Universe - Reflections of Ibn Qayyim

[Proud-Muslimah]

Assalamu 'Alaikum,

Sister, I just want to add this...Insh'Allah I hope you won't mind

WHY DID GOD CREATE?
By Dr. Abu Ameenah Bilal Philips

Taken from "The Purpose of Creation"

From the point of view of God, an even more fundamental question needs to be asked, “Why did God create?” This question should be asked because humankind is not, in fact, the greatest creation. God says in the Quran:

“Indeed, the creation of the heavens and the earth is greater than the creation of mankind, but most of mankind do not realize it.”

The composition of human beings is far less complex than the composition of the universe in which they exist. However, very few people reflect o­n this reality. Because of the apparent supremacy of human beings over the other creatures o­n this earth, man's journeys through space and the continued advancement of their technology and knowledge, humankind in every age becomes arrogant and considers itself the greatest thing in this world. It is worth noting that the majority of humankind's amazing discoveries are not concerning the human being, but his surroundings. Thus, human efforts tend to be focused o­n the material world rather than human beings. In this verse, God brings human beings back to their actual status in this world. Humankind is merely a small part of the existence which resulted from the miraculous act of divine creation. Thus, in order to understand why God created mankind, o­ne first needs to answer the even more fundamental question of why God created.

The Creator

Creation is fundamentally the consequence of the divine attribute of being the Creator. A creator who does not create is something of a contradiction in terms. This is not to say that God needs His creation. God is free from all needs. It is creation which needs Him. But, as the greatness of a writer becomes apparent in his writings, the perfection of the divine creative attribute is manifest in creation. Creation in the true sense is unique to God alone. Although humans ascribe the act of creation to themselves, what they do is not true creation. Humankind merely manipulates what already exists - what was already created by God. A table is made from wood which came from trees and is held together with nails and screws made from metal that came from rocks. Human beings did not make the trees or the rocks. In fact, all human creations can be traced back to basic elements which humans cannot make. Even the artist ‘creates’ designs based o­n what he has seen. It is not possible to imagine what has not been perceived by the senses. Thus, all of the artist's thoughts are reflections o­n what was already created. o­nly God alone creates from nothing. This basic fact was and still is incomprehensible to some. Some ancient as well as modern philosophers, who could not comprehend how God could create from nothing, claimed that the created world and its contents are all originally a part of God. That is, according to them, God took a part of Himself and made the universe. This conclusion is based o­n comparing God to man, who can o­nly ‘create’ by modifying what already exists. However, God denies any such comparisons which would give Him human limitations. In the Quran, He states:

“There is nothing like Him and He is hearer and seer of all.”

Thus, the act of creation is a consequence of the divine attribute of being the Creator. God describes Himself as the Creator in a variety of verses throughout the final revelation to emphasize to humankind that everything belongs to Him alone.

“Allah created all things and He is the agent o­n which all things depend.”

“And Allah created you all and whatever you do.”

Man needs to realize that nothing takes place in this universe without the permission of God. To seek protection from evil or to seek to acquire good from any source other than God is a major mistake. Due to ignorance, many people attempt to avoid misfortune and to gain good fortune through a variety of charms and amulets, astrology, palmistry, etc. Consequently, in the Quran, God informs human beings to seek refuge in God from evil:

“Say: I seek refuge in the Lord of the dawn, from the evil of what He has created.”

Allah, God Almighty, is not evil; He is good. He created a world in which evil or good can be done by beings to whom He gave this ability. However, no evil or good can take place in this world without the permission of God. This is why it is futile to turn to others besides God for help and protection.

“No calamity strikes except by Allah's permission.”

The final prophet of God, Muhammad (peace be upon him), further elaborated o­n this concept, saying, “Be aware that if the whole of mankind gathered together to do something to help you, they would o­nly be able to do something for you which Allah had already written for you. Likewise, if the whole of mankind gathered together to harm you, they would o­nly be able to do something to harm you which Allah had already written to happen to you.”

[Proud-Muslimah]

The Merciful, The Forgiving

In the creation of humankind, the divine attributes of forgiveness, mercy and kindness are also manifested. Human beings were created good and pure with a natural awareness of good and evil. The Almighty also created in humans desires, and gave them an ability to control those desires according to divine law or to turn them loose and follow them blindly. God created mankind knowing that they would disobey Him. Consequently, He taught human beings, beginning with Adam, how to repent and thereby purify themselves of their sins. Adam and Eve represent a pattern for all mankind to follow. They forgot the commandment of God, and Satan played o­n their desires. After they had disobeyed God, they turned back to Him in repentance, and He forgave them. In humankind's disobedience and turning back to God in repentance, the divine attributes of total forgiveness and infinite mercy become manifest. The final Prophet (peace be upon him) informed his followers of this reality, saying, “If you did not commit sins and turn to Allah, seeking His forgiveness, He would have replaced you with another people who would sin, ask Allah's forgiveness and He would forgive them.” Every o­ne of the 114 Chapters of the final revelation, except o­ne, begins with the prayer, “In the name of Allah, the Beneficent the Most Merciful.” Allah's attributes of mercy and forgiveness are stressed to encourage humans not to fall into despair. No matter how great the sins of human beings may be, God can forgive them if man turns back to Him in sincere repentance. The Messenger (peace be upon him) was quoted as saying, “When Allah created the universe, He made an obligation o­n Himself [recorded] in a document kept by Him: My mercy supersedes my wrath.” He was also reported to have said, “[Allah created] mercy with o­ne hundred parts, o­ne of which was sent down upon the jinn, human beings and other living beings. It is out of this o­ne part that they love each other, show kindness to each other and even the animals treat their offspring with affection. Allah has reserved the remaining ninety-nine parts for His true worshippers o­n the Day of Resurrection.”

Had Allah wished, He could have created mankind like angels, incapable of committing sin. However, that was not His wish, as He had already created angels. Human beings were created capable of making mistakes and when they realize their errors and seek God's forgiveness, the divine attributes of mercy and forgiveness become manifest.

Supreme Justice

In the judgment of mankind at the end of this world, God's attributes of supreme justice and fairness also become manifest. Based o­n His infinite knowledge, God could have created all members of the human race who were to live o­n earth and immediately placed some of them in paradise and the remainder in hell. Before creating man, Allah already knew what choices they would make in this life, what provision and opportunities He would give them, and in what state of belief or disbelief they would die. Therefore, in o­ne sense it could be said that some people were created for paradise and others for hell. Aaishah, wife of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), quoted him as saying, “Don't you know that Allah created paradise and hell, and He created inhabitants for each?” If God had immediately placed those headed for paradise in paradise, they would not question God's decision. Those in paradise would happily accept an everlasting life of bliss and be thankful that they were not placed in hell. However, those immediately placed in hell would ask why. They would feel a sense of unfairness due to their ignorance of what they would have done had they lived o­n earth. Those in hell would relentlessly argue that had they been given a chance to live out their lives o­n earth, they would have believed and done righteous deeds. Consequently, Allah allows human beings to live out their lives o­n earth and make all the choices they would have made, so that everyone who enters hell will know that they chose hell by themselves. They will recognize God's mercy in their lives and acknowledge their sin in rejecting His signs and guidance. And they will accept His judgment as being just and beyond reproach. However, they will still beg for another chance to do good in this world, as God says in the Quran:

“If o­nly you could see [the time] when the sinners will bow their heads before their Lord, [saying], ‘Our Lord! We have now seen and heard, so send us back and we will do righteous deeds. Verily, we now believe with certainty.’ ”

However, if Allah were to send them back to this world having forgotten what they had seen of hell, they would again choose evil and end up in hell as before. God spoke about this in the Quran,

“But if they were returned [to this world], they would certainly go back to what was forbidden to them. Indeed they are liars.”

Divine Love

God's love is manifest in beings brought into existence, whether believer or disbeliever, to enjoy life, if o­nly for a brief moment. It is also realized in the creation of paradise for those who choose righteousness over evil. Allah states in the final revelation that He loves those who do good (5:13), those who are just (5:42), those who are pious (9:4), those who are patient (3:146), those who put their trust in Him (3:159), those who frequently turn to Him in repentance and those who purify themselves (2:222). However, it is He who has defined for human beings through the scriptures and the prophets what is good, just and pious. Consequently, those who follow the prophets are most beloved to God. In the Quran, Allah instructed Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) to say the following to the believers:

“If you really love Allah, follow me and Allah will love you and forgive your sins.”

The prophets should be followed not o­nly in the compulsory acts ordained by God, but also in their eagerness to do acts of voluntary worship.

The love of God is also manifest in His mercy and blessings which He grants to those who deserve them as well as those who do not. But, it is particularly manifest in His willingness to forgive the sins of whomsoever turns to Him in sincere repentance. From the creation of Adam and Eve, repentance was granted to them to erase their sins as an example to all human beings who would follow them into this world. No matter how great human sins may become, the door for sincere repentance remains open until the last day of this world. Anas quoted Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) as saying, “Allah, the Almighty, has said: O son of Adam, as long as you call o­n Me and ask of Me, I will forgive what you have done, and I do not mind. O son of Adam, even if your sins reached the clouds and you asked My forgiveness, I will forgive you. O son of Adam, if you came to Me with sins nearly as great as the earth and you met Me without giving Me partners, I will give you a similar amount of forgiveness.”

Divine Grace

As for those in paradise, they will not enter it solely based o­n their good deeds. It is the grace of God which will ultimately carry them there. The final Prophet of Allah (peace be upon him) said in this regard, “Try your best to do right, and be happy. For none will enter paradise o­nly because of his deeds.” His companions said, “O Messenger of Allah! Not even you?” He replied, “Not even I, unless Allah envelops me in His mercy and grace. And bear in mind that the deed most loved by Allah is o­ne done constantly, even though it is small.” However, God's grace is not arbitrary. It is based o­n both correct faith and righteous deeds. In the Quran, Allah says:

“Whoever brings a good deed, will have [the value of] ten like it, and whoever brings an evil deed will o­nly be punished with o­ne like it, and they will not be wronged.”

Were God to hold humankind to account strictly, no o­ne's good deeds would outweigh their evil deeds. However, God has manifested His grace by multiplying the value of good deeds, while keeping evil deeds at their face value. It is by the grace of God that the true believers enter Paradise. This does not mean that deeds have no role. Deeds have a major role, but they are not the deciding factor. God's grace outweighs them.

Consequently, the creation of human beings, the errors that they make and the good that they do are all circumstances for the manifestation of God's attributes of mercy and forgiveness, His attribute of justice and His attribute of grace.

Humankind should not question why God chose to manifest His attributes in this way. It can o­nly be assumed that this was the best way, because Allah describes Himself as being the Most Wise and the Most Knowledgeable. Humans can o­nly understand what Allah chooses to reveal to them.

“They will o­nly encompass of His knowledge what He wishes.”

Thus, they should not try to equate themselves with God. If He has told humankind why He decided to do something, it is not for them to question why He decided to decide. Such questions are without end and thus beyond human scope. It is they who will be questioned o­n the Day of Judgment about their actions and intentions and not He. In the Quran, Allah addresses this point:

“He cannot be questioned as to what He does, while they will be questioned.”

In this regard Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was reported by Ibn ‘Abbaas to have said, “Reflect o­n the creation of Allah but do not reflect o­n Allah.” To reflect o­n the reality of Allah is to reflect o­n the infinite. And, as the mind boggles when it reflects o­n the limits of the finite universe and the galaxies and stars within it, it will be more confounded when it attempts to understand the uncreated. The Prophet (peace be upon him) warned that the satanic forces would seek to introduce doubts in the hearts of the believers by raising unanswerable questions about God. Aboo Hurayrah related that Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) said, “Satan will come to everyone of you and ask: Who created this and that? - until he questions: Who created your Lord? When he comes to that, o­ne should seek refuge in Allah [say: I affirm my faith in Allah and His prophets] and avoid [such thoughts].”

[Proud-Muslimah]

And also this Insh'Allah

Is there a Creator?

We will answer by quoting a number of aayaat (verses) from the Book of Allaah (the Qur’aan – the scripture of Islam), then you can think to yourself about the matter and if the truth becomes clear to you, you will have no choice but to follow it. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“We created you, then why do you believe not?
Then tell Me (about) the human semen that you emit.
Is it you who create it (i.e., make this semen into a perfect human being), or are We the Creator?
We have decreed death unto you all, and We are not unable,
To transfigure you and create you in (forms) that you know not.
And indeed, you have already known the first form of creation (i.e., the creation of Adam). Why then do you not remember or take heed?
Tell Me! The seed that you sow in the ground.
Is it you that make it grow, or are We the Grower?
Were it Our Will, We could crumble it to dry pieces, and you would be regretful (or left in wonderment),
(Saying), ‘We are indeed Mughramoon (i.e., ruined, or lost the money without any profit, or punished by the loss of all that we spent for cultivation, etc.)!
‘Nay, but we are deprived!’
Tell Me! The water that you drink,
Is it you who cause it from the rainclouds to come down, or are We the Causer of it to come down?
If We willed, We verily could make it salt (and undrinkable). Why then do you not give thanks (to Allaah)?
Tell Me! The fire which you kindle,
Is it you who made the tree thereof to grow, or are We the Grower?
We have made it a Reminder (for the Hell-fire, in the Hereafter); and an article of use for the travellers (and all others, in this world).
The glorify with praises the Name of your Lord, the Most Great.
So I swear by mawaaqi’ (setting to the mansions, etc.) of the stars (they traverse),
And verily, that is indeed a great oath, if you but knew,
That (this) is indeed an honourable recital (the Noble Qur’aan).” [Quran 56:57-77]


Were they created by nothing, or were they themselves the creators?
Or did they create the heavens and the earth? Nay, but they have no firm Belief. Or are with them the treasures of your Lord? Or are they the tyrants with the authority to do as they like?” [Quran 52:35-37]


“Verily, the creation of the heavens and the earth, and in the alternation of night and day, and the ships which sail through the sea with that which is of use to mankind, and the water (rain) which Allaah sends down from the sky and makes the earth alive therewith after its death, and the moving (living) creatures of all kinds that He has scattered therein, and in the veering of winds and clouds which are held between the sky and the earth, are indeed aayaat (proofs, evidences, signs) for people of understanding.” [Quran 2:164]


“It is He Who sends down water (rain) from the sky, and with it We bring forth vegetation of all kinds, and out of it We bring forth green stalks, from which We bring forth thick clustered grain. And out of the date-palm and its spathe come forth clusters of dates hanging low and near, and gardens of grapes, olives and pomegranates, each similar (in kind) yet different (in variety and taste). Look at their fruits when they begin to bear, and the ripeness thereof. Verily! In these things there are signs for people who believe.” [Quran 6:99]


“And it is He Who sends the winds as heralds of glad tidings, going before His Mercy (rain), till when they have carried a heavy-laden cloud, We drive it to a land that is dead, then We cause water (rain) to descend thereon. Then We produce every kind of fruit therewith. Similarly, We shall raise up the dead, so that you may remember or take heed.” [Quran 7:57]


“Is not He (better than your gods) Who created the heavens and the earth, and sends down for you water (rain) from the sky, whereby We cause to grow wonderful gardens full of beauty and delight? It is not in your ability to cause the growth of their trees. Is there any god with Allaah? Nay, but they are a people who ascribe equals (to Him)!” [Quran 27:60]


“He has created the heavens and the earth without any pillars that you see, and has set on the earth firm mountains, lest it should shake with you. And He has scattered therein moving (living) creatures of all kinds. And We send down water (rain) from the sky, and We cause (plants) of every goodly kind to grow therein.” [Quran 31:10]


And the two seas (kinds of water) are not alike, this fresh, sweet and pleasant to drink, and that saltish and bitter. And from them both you eat fresh tender meat (fish), and derive the ornaments that you wear. And you see the ships cleaving (the sea-water as they sail through it), that you may seek of His Bounty, and that you may give thanks.” [Quran 35:12]


And it is He Who has let free the two seas (kinds of water), one palatable and sweet, and the other salt and bitter, and He has set a barrier and a complete partition between them.” [Quran 25:53]


This is a selection of clear aayaat that include the answer to your question. We invite you to join the community of the believers and to enter the religion of Islam which Allaah has chosen as the religion for all mankind. Peace be upon those who follow true Guidance.

[dhuusa_deer]

[quote="Proud-Muslimah"]Assalamu 'Alaikum,

WHY DID GOD CREATE?[/quote]


WHY does GOD need a reason to create... he's GOD for crying out load

[Under Taker.]

"for crying out load" DD u will have 2 cry out loads sometime when u ask for forgiveness coz with u being an atheist.... i just think u r confused may Allah guide you. what the girls said makes sense. may Allah bless u

[dhuusa_deer]

[quote="Under Taker."]"for crying out load" DD u will have 2 cry out loads sometime when u ask for forgiveness coz with u being an atheist.... i just think u r confused may Allah guide you. what the girls said makes sense. may Allah bless u [/quote]

What the girls said didn't make sense, that is why I responded. My question is WHY does God need ANY reason to do ANYthing. He's not answerable to anyone, he doesn't need any reason to do anything becuz he's PERFECT.... perfect beings are in need of nothing. Including reasons for doing things.


Only casting a light on the absurdity of that question.

[Under Taker.]

i repeat u r totally confused and i think ur non believing mind is making it hard for u to grasp a simple concept.

u r right Allah is The Most Powerful and he does not have to answer to anybody. i also believe that everything happens for a reason, the earth revolves round the sun 4 a reason nothing is a coincidence and therefore human beings were also created for a reason. to worship the One and Only Allah (SWT)

i hope that answers ur question try 2 read the quran itself and i hope u will c how much sense it makes. just for once stop tryin 2 justify ur point of view and be open. whats the worst that could happen

[dhuusa_deer]

[quote="Under Taker."]i repeat u r totally confused and i think ur non believing mind is making it hard for u to grasp a simple concept.

u r right Allah is The Most Powerful and he does not have to answer to anybody. i also believe that everything happens for a reason, the earth revolves round the sun 4 a reason nothing is a coincidence and therefore human beings were also created for a reason. to worship the One and Only Allah (SWT)

i hope that answers ur question try 2 read the quran itself and i hope u will c how much sense it makes. just for once stop tryin 2 justify ur point of view and be open. whats the worst that could happen [/quote]

You didn't anwer my question, only agreed with my rationalization (that God doesn't need any reasons to do anything)...questions like why did God do this or that are absurd considering the characteristics ascribed to God.

[Under Taker.]

horta DD do u believe in the existence of God

[dhuusa_deer]

No, I don't believe in ANY God. I'm an atheist.

[Under Taker.]

dont tell me that u believe in the big bang and the evolution theory
how did u come 2 this realisation anyway? u were born in a muslim family right?

[dhuusa_deer]

I have NO choice but accept the Big Bang and Evolution Theories as FACTS. The evidence for both is simply too conclusive and unassailable.


Born to muslim parents although I didn't believe in Allah from as early as I can remember. The concept of Allah -- an uncaused cause without a begenning and end that can't be sensed or percieved in any way, shape or form; not subject to logic and universal laws -- didn't sit well with me. Those nascent unconvinced seeds of doubt grew to full blown rejection of Islam and Allah. Never looked back, never will.


I was born atheist (like every1 else) and I will die as one.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Those girls never make any sense. They're morons.

[The_Don_of_djibouti]

You are the moron of all the motherfu1cker jewish playground.
Kiss my somali guss, stupid reject who got no life.

Who told you to come here?????
Motherfu1cker get a life