How deep is the Madhibaan damage?

[Sir-Luggoyo]

Being a Madhibaan among Somalis must sukk big time. The average non-Madhibaan Farah may not know how severe this group of ppl are scarred but my recent encounter with one Halimo Madhibaan proved a lot and caused me a lot of grief. I was remorseful, feeling guilty for reasons unknown to me. I know I have no blame in this scenario but to the Madhibaan, I am no different than their next door so-called nasab who has been tormenting them ions gone.

I met this beautiful ..... actually stunning beautiful is the right word ----- Somali lady...... the color of her skin was actually unique to some Somali women ..... dark but seems to be glowing from the inside, kind of radiant, well built, the most beautiful smile ever caressed a woman's lips, finely set teeth, full luscious lips, high cheek bones gurding an independent nose, but the most I admired about her was the lady-like walk. You know that unique Somali women walk, not rushing but not lazy like, but confident and the hips doing a thing of their own, plus the damn "laafyo" swaying that arm as if the street belongs to her and passersby are her subjects, Shidh. She got it all.

However, our intentions were different, or so I thought, I was pursuing a relationship and she a friendship, when I finally confronted and cornered her, with teary eyes, she said.............. "oh Sir-Luggoyo, as much as I would love to entertain that idea with you, it will all come back to the fact that I am Madhiban and you are not" she continued... "you will be pressured (by your kinfolk) to disregard whatever relationship we have nurtured and you will eventually succumb to that pressure, and even if you disregard it, you will be an outcast and I have no place for an outcast, I want my children to have relations with your extended family and that ain't gonna happen, so I am afarid, we have to end it"

[Galol]

Lug

Why only Madhibaan? Why not Muse Dheriyo?

And the bottoml;ine is this: will you allow your daughter or sister to marry a midgaan boy?

I would without a second thought. Sop would you? try honesty which i know is not your forte.

[Somaliman%]

madhiban are people just like us. they are somali and thats what matters.
i would marry a preety madhiban girl if i saw one..
i dont care what my family says, it's not them marrying her and eventaully they would learn to live with it. they always do...

we need to stop this ignorance...i mean back in the days... ahmed ali igal the famous somali singer married maryan mursal another famous singer but shes madhiban his family disowned him, but they were cool after.
and siyad barre also got his daughter to marry a madhiban man...
this was all done to stop people from carrying on with this stupid ediotic tradition...

[qudhac-m]

[quote="Sir-Luggoyo"]Being a Madhibaan among Somalis must sukk big time. The average non-Madhibaan Farah may not know how severe this group of ppl are scarred but my recent encounter with one Halimo Madhibaan proved a lot and caused me a lot of grief. I was remorseful, feeling guilty for reasons unknown to me. I know I have no blame in this scenario but to the Madhibaan, I am no different than their next door so-called nasab who has been tormenting them ions gone.

I met this beautiful ..... actually stunning beautiful is the right word ----- Somali lady...... the color of her skin was actually unique to some Somali women ..... dark but seems to be glowing from the inside, kind of radiant, well built, the most beautiful smile ever caressed a woman's lips, finely set teeth, full luscious lips, high cheek bones gurding an independent nose, but the most I admired about her was the lady-like walk. You know that unique Somali women walk, not rushing but not lazy like, but confident and the hips doing a thing of their own, plus the damn "laafyo" swaying that arm as if the street belongs to her and passersby are her subjects, Shidh. She got it all.

However, our intentions were different, or so I thought, I was pursuing a relationship and she a friendship, when I finally confronted and cornered her, with teary eyes, she said.............. "oh Sir-Luggoyo, as much as I would love to entertain that idea with you, it will all come back to the fact that I am Madhiban and you are not" she continued... "you will be pressured (by your kinfolk) to disregard whatever relationship we have nurtured and you will eventually succumb to that pressure, and even if you disregard it, you will be an outcast and I have no place for an outcast, I want my children to have relations with your extended family and that ain't gonna happen, so I am afarid, we have to end it"[/quote]


Sir

Awoow salaan, I thought you were a pure religios Muslim dude who loves
all his muslim pple regardless of their origion.
Lugooyaw awoow BAHASHA SOMALINIMO AHI WAA BALAAYO SHAW.

[Sir-Luggoyo]

Galol,

I didn't wanted to list all the so-called untouchables, from the Muse Dheris to the Yaxars but I was merely recounting an encounter I had with a beauty queen whom I could not earn her respect let alone her love, I feel digusted and loathe the original idea of segregation and despise.

And yes, I would allow my daughter/sister to wed a Madhibaan as long as he is a good Muslim.


I believe the best place for a Madhibaan to live was Kismaayo, no one knew (or put any importance) the fact that someone belongs to the said clans. I remember a childhood friend in our neighborhood, who was a Midgaan, but no stigma was attached to his being such, he was one of the gang and kids admired him for his outstanding soccer skill, and was even more popular than other so-called nassab kids.

Qudhac

Awoow salaan sare. I still am the religious dude who loves his ppl regardless. She let me down, big time.

Now, Awoow, the question is, should I give up on her or should I pursue? Waxaan doonayaa jawaab ka timaaada akhyaarta wax garadka ah, iga daa carruurtan yaryare.

[kambuli]

Walaahay magaca Eebbe ayaan ku dhaartey, ninkii yaqaan uunbaan ugu
Dhaaranayaaye, right now ilmo ayaa indhahayga ka daÂ’aysaÂ….Maxaan dadkan u dhibney? Maxay ka galabsadeen Somaalida dhibtaÂ…

Last year I happened to be one of audiences a guy from that clan was addressing, he was the most handsome man a women can set her eyes on, very educated, very prepared, very neat and very attractive in every wayÂ…He said :

1. Walalayaal bal aad ii eega oo iigu fiirsada,Â…
2. Maxaan idinkaga duwanahay?
3. Maxaad noo takoorteen?
4. Maxaad noo dhibtaan?
5. Maxaad afka la qaloocisaan markaad na canjilieysaan?

Qabiilkayagu waa madhibaan, sida qabiilkiinu uu u yahay qudhac, qansax etc maxaad noo yastaan oo noogu sheegtaan magacyo huwan xumaan sida midgo iwm? Bal anaku dhibkii soo marnay eh fadlan noo badbaadiya caruurta uunÂ… Ilmahiina fariintan naga gaadhsiiya oo haku abuurina cuqdad been ahÂ…. Walaahay I was just crying and crying waanba fuureyÂ… I was angry and upset big timeÂ…

I would not hesitate to marry a madiban guy if I find him suitable for me, Laandheere my footÂ….

Sir-Luggooyo, la tasho kaskaaga iyo maankaaga iyo maskaxdaadaÂ…. I am sure inay ku odhanayaanÂ… Sida xaqa ahÂ… Taas oo ah " Haku niicin gabadh qiimo badan, qabiil iyo xumo been ah oo la xambaarshey..

[Samatr]

[quote="kambuli"]Walaahay magaca Eebbe ayaan ku dhaartey, ninkii yaqaan uunbaan ugu
Dhaaranayaaye, right now ilmo ayaa indhahayga ka daÂ’aysaÂ…...[/quote]

Ma sanboodh baa ku haya???

[kambuli]

Samatr,

Waxba kaama gelin waxa I haye eh, haka kharibin topic-ga ninka qorey, haddaad jawaab haysana soo daa haddii kalena iska aamu.... Maxaa kaa si ah...

[Samatr]

Dee waan kaa naxay qof ilmo ka da'ayso, Madhibaan iyagaa isugu wacan. Magaci waa magac, inay is difaacaan baa laga rabaa.

[Sir-Luggoyo]

Kambuli


The problem is not me, it's her, she is the one who lacks the confidence to be with me. She sees herself lower than me and that the so-called nassab society would never forgive her for taking one of theirs. You see, it's something that is engraved in her brain, something she can not entertain to dismiss as mere folktale, something that became the norm for her, and no matter what I say or do, I can't pass through that garbage information to let her know what reality is. She has closed that gate and nothing filters through. It's really sad but that is how it is.


I curse the so-called nasabs for causing such beauty to fall through my fingers.

[kambuli]

Sir,

Ok then may be she sensed that you are skeptical Show her that you are serious....Or who knows may be she figured out that you play around with your co-workers... Who knows what she knows...

[Unclebin]

Sir

Why would you give up so easily? Continue to persist on and that your family's discrimnatory ways would never hinder your love for her. Make an example and be one of the forerunners of such marriages and hopefully her sisters and brothers kids who are madhibaan wouldn't one day feel embarassed about allowing there kids to marry 'nassab' people.

[QansaGabeyle]

I have a question. How come there are no madhibaans on Somalinet?

[Unclebin]

^ They fear online persecution.

[kambuli]

Qansa,

Anigaa ahe, maxaad ii haysaa