Turkish Official Compares Pope to Hitler
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- dhuusa_deer
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[quote="Xplosive"]
So they never attacked Muslim lands you said?
http://www.historybookshop.com/articles ... usades.asp[/quote]
yep, that's exactly what I'm saying. What you consider muslim lands weren't muslim to begin with. Instead Christian lands that muslims conquered. Your link corroborates my claim:
"....In Palestine the mild rule of the first Muslim conquerors had for centuries allowed a Christian protectorate (first established under Charlemagne) to exist in Jerusalem, and Christian pilgrims were allowed to come and go quite freely. But this state of affairs was ended in 1010 by the fanatical caliph, Hakim, who destroyed the sanctuary. The protectorate passed in 1021 to the Greek Church, and after 1071 the Saracens were themselves overcome by a rougher people, the Seljuk Turks. Christian pilgrimage became difficult and dangerous. In 1095 the appeals of Pope Urban II led to the undertaking of an enterprise which in various forms had already been proposed by more than one pope..."
So they never attacked Muslim lands you said?
http://www.historybookshop.com/articles ... usades.asp[/quote]
yep, that's exactly what I'm saying. What you consider muslim lands weren't muslim to begin with. Instead Christian lands that muslims conquered. Your link corroborates my claim:
"....In Palestine the mild rule of the first Muslim conquerors had for centuries allowed a Christian protectorate (first established under Charlemagne) to exist in Jerusalem, and Christian pilgrims were allowed to come and go quite freely. But this state of affairs was ended in 1010 by the fanatical caliph, Hakim, who destroyed the sanctuary. The protectorate passed in 1021 to the Greek Church, and after 1071 the Saracens were themselves overcome by a rougher people, the Seljuk Turks. Christian pilgrimage became difficult and dangerous. In 1095 the appeals of Pope Urban II led to the undertaking of an enterprise which in various forms had already been proposed by more than one pope..."
What a stupid lax.
""The objects of these religious wars carried on by European nations against Islam between the 11th and 13th centuries were originally to ensure the safety of pilgrims visiting the Holy Sepulchre, and to set up Christian rule in Palestine. Later on the attacks were directed against Egypt and even Constantinople, and in the 14th century the conquests of the Ottoman Turks turned crusading into a defensive movement." "
Tell me, what was the religion of the people who were living in Constantinople and Egypt at the time of the attacks?
What do you mean by "they were christian lands"? Did the Muslims take the land and throw the indegenous people to the sea?
""The objects of these religious wars carried on by European nations against Islam between the 11th and 13th centuries were originally to ensure the safety of pilgrims visiting the Holy Sepulchre, and to set up Christian rule in Palestine. Later on the attacks were directed against Egypt and even Constantinople, and in the 14th century the conquests of the Ottoman Turks turned crusading into a defensive movement." "
Tell me, what was the religion of the people who were living in Constantinople and Egypt at the time of the attacks?
What do you mean by "they were christian lands"? Did the Muslims take the land and throw the indegenous people to the sea?
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quote="eyes-only"]^^ This coming from the Christian crusaders.
I think the pope should do something about the paedophilia fostered by his church before commenting on other religions. When I first heard the news, I found it funny and even funnier hearing them make excuses like, ‘oh, he didn’t mean it that way, it was taken out of context’. Like hell he didn’t.
.[/quote]
Eyes true he should get busy with his Priests n how they abusing kids........instead Islam u afka la gleyo........
dhuusa_deer u asked:
How did India threaten Islam?
India threaten Islam when they stolen Kashmeer
How did France threaten Islam?
France threaten Islam when they banned Hijab from their Schools
How did Spain threaten Islam
Spain Threaten Islam when they send troops to Iraq/fghan
How did Sicily threaten Islam?
Well, Sicily is old Mafia so Islam needs 2 get rid of 'em
U got loozer?
I think the pope should do something about the paedophilia fostered by his church before commenting on other religions. When I first heard the news, I found it funny and even funnier hearing them make excuses like, ‘oh, he didn’t mean it that way, it was taken out of context’. Like hell he didn’t.
.[/quote]
dhuusa_deer u asked:
How did India threaten Islam?
India threaten Islam when they stolen Kashmeer
How did France threaten Islam?
France threaten Islam when they banned Hijab from their Schools
How did Spain threaten Islam
Spain Threaten Islam when they send troops to Iraq/fghan
How did Sicily threaten Islam?
Well, Sicily is old Mafia so Islam needs 2 get rid of 'em
U got loozer?
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The inhabitants of Constantinople were largely Greek Orthodox (Eastern Orthodox) at the time of the Crusades. There were very few, if any, Musims there.
The people in Egypt were a mixed lot: Copts, Jews, Monophysites and other Christians, and Muslims.
I couldn't find comparative fugures for the period of the Crusades, but the current... " population of Egypt is 66,050,004. The majority of Egyptians are eastern Hamitic stock (Egyptians, Bedouins, and Berbers) 99%, Greek, Nubian, Armenian, other European (primarily It is alian and French) 1%. Religions: Islam is the official religion, and about 90% of all Egyptians are Muslims, most of them are members of the Sunni sect. The Coptic Orthodox Church (similar to Christians) has no more than 3 million members. Copts has 7 million members. 1 million people belong to the Greek orthodox, Roman Catholic, Armenian, and a lot of protestant churches. This country has a very small Jewish community.
http://www.free-essays-free-essays.com/ ... ci27.shtml
The people in Egypt were a mixed lot: Copts, Jews, Monophysites and other Christians, and Muslims.
I couldn't find comparative fugures for the period of the Crusades, but the current... " population of Egypt is 66,050,004. The majority of Egyptians are eastern Hamitic stock (Egyptians, Bedouins, and Berbers) 99%, Greek, Nubian, Armenian, other European (primarily It is alian and French) 1%. Religions: Islam is the official religion, and about 90% of all Egyptians are Muslims, most of them are members of the Sunni sect. The Coptic Orthodox Church (similar to Christians) has no more than 3 million members. Copts has 7 million members. 1 million people belong to the Greek orthodox, Roman Catholic, Armenian, and a lot of protestant churches. This country has a very small Jewish community.
http://www.free-essays-free-essays.com/ ... ci27.shtml
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[quote="Xplosive"] Tell me, what was the religion of the people who were living in Constantinople and Egypt at the time of the attacks? [quote]
Sigh! You're so obtuse. THe faith of ppl of Constantinople and Egypt is extraneous to anything we've been discussing hitherto. in fact, it's complete red herring that raises questions about your sincerity. If you wanna respond to imaginary words that I never said, feel free to do so. But count me out from further discussion. If on the other hand you want to catch your breath, gather your wits and respond to what I've actually said, I'm game.
Now, my arguement has been consistent throughout this thread. It is this: the so called "muslim lands" that Christians Crusaders invaded were originally Christian lands that muslims acquired by the SAME means; CONQUEST. Why do you muzzies get your collective hackles raised everytime the Crusaders are mentioned but remain unperturbed by the conquests of the preceding muslims?
Beats me.
[quote]What do you mean by "they were christian lands"? Did the Muslims take the land and throw the indegenous people to the sea?[/quote]
Muslims conquered these lands, both Christian and non-christians. People throughout human history (with few rare exceptions) have followed the religion of the generals that conquered them.
Sigh! You're so obtuse. THe faith of ppl of Constantinople and Egypt is extraneous to anything we've been discussing hitherto. in fact, it's complete red herring that raises questions about your sincerity. If you wanna respond to imaginary words that I never said, feel free to do so. But count me out from further discussion. If on the other hand you want to catch your breath, gather your wits and respond to what I've actually said, I'm game.
Now, my arguement has been consistent throughout this thread. It is this: the so called "muslim lands" that Christians Crusaders invaded were originally Christian lands that muslims acquired by the SAME means; CONQUEST. Why do you muzzies get your collective hackles raised everytime the Crusaders are mentioned but remain unperturbed by the conquests of the preceding muslims?
Beats me.
[quote]What do you mean by "they were christian lands"? Did the Muslims take the land and throw the indegenous people to the sea?[/quote]
Muslims conquered these lands, both Christian and non-christians. People throughout human history (with few rare exceptions) have followed the religion of the generals that conquered them.
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[quote="Luckyy"]
India threaten Islam when they stolen Kashmeer
[quote]
You got your bearings wrong by 1000 years!
What are they teaching you kids these days.
[quote]France threaten Islam when they banned Hijab from their Schools [quote]
This is just too funny.
[quote]Spain Threaten Islam when they send troops to Iraq/fghan[quote]
... rolling on the floor!!!!
[quote]Well, Sicily is old Mafia so Islam needs 2 get rid of 'em [quote]
Factually less outrageous, somewhat better. Still, you're wrong. But Islam didn't get rid of the mafia. It helped Sicilians with one thing though: the eradication of all future tense from their language. Sicilian is unique language in that they can't speak of the future. Like I WILL do this or that.
India threaten Islam when they stolen Kashmeer
You got your bearings wrong by 1000 years!
What are they teaching you kids these days.
[quote]France threaten Islam when they banned Hijab from their Schools [quote]
This is just too funny.
[quote]Spain Threaten Islam when they send troops to Iraq/fghan[quote]
... rolling on the floor!!!!
[quote]Well, Sicily is old Mafia so Islam needs 2 get rid of 'em [quote]
Factually less outrageous, somewhat better. Still, you're wrong. But Islam didn't get rid of the mafia. It helped Sicilians with one thing though: the eradication of all future tense from their language. Sicilian is unique language in that they can't speak of the future. Like I WILL do this or that.
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[quote="dhuusa_deer"][quote="Xplosive"]DD South America was Christian land too right?[/quote]
No, it wasn't. What's your point?
It's a fact that Jerusalem was Christian before Islam so was the entire Levant, Anatolia, Greece, Itali, Sicily, parts of Egypt and ALL of Europe.[/quote]
Pathetic Faggot loser ...What the hell was Jerusalam before Christianity, before Roman Pagans Ruled, Before Hebrews controlled...you could go on and on..but the fact remains my confused disgraceful disowned Somali Faggot that when muslims army conquered Jerusalam they did not massacre all the Christian or Jewish inhabitant like the fatherless swine eating Crusaders massacred all the muslims, jewish and even Orthodox Christian inhabitant of the city.
No, it wasn't. What's your point?
It's a fact that Jerusalem was Christian before Islam so was the entire Levant, Anatolia, Greece, Itali, Sicily, parts of Egypt and ALL of Europe.[/quote]
Pathetic Faggot loser ...What the hell was Jerusalam before Christianity, before Roman Pagans Ruled, Before Hebrews controlled...you could go on and on..but the fact remains my confused disgraceful disowned Somali Faggot that when muslims army conquered Jerusalam they did not massacre all the Christian or Jewish inhabitant like the fatherless swine eating Crusaders massacred all the muslims, jewish and even Orthodox Christian inhabitant of the city.
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