The dark side of Sayyid Abdullah Hassan

[Cisse Westlake]

mad mullah died and 50 years after his death da british left.... he forced dem outh indeed.

ur messiah's aint my heroes

[CUSHITE KINGDOM]

he made those silly cats leave by putting up resistance that was so powerful that even the british navy was ruined in the gulf/red sea, they had to use air strikes for the first time in Africa and probably Asia too, thank God you have brave people amongst you, silly iidor, otherwise you would be like Djibouti who just only built a University 2006 and who has the highest HIV rates amongst somalis

i dont understand why you cant appreciate History and all the Great Heroes we produced, its sad really


Ahmed Gurey DAROOD

Sayidka DAROOD

MSB DAROOD

unless you have concrete evidence about AL-Ghazi being a somali
then dont say he was darood

[Somaliman50]

cushite, ahmed garad ibrahim maxamad (gurey) was karanle hawiye. from the reer garaad clan of seexawle karanle. he was a balawi man, and balawi's are karanle's from balo region.

[snoop12]

Iman Ahmed Gurey is MArexan, im tired of this beg friend thing, stop claiming men who are in our lineage men who are well known amongst us.... tomorrow you will claim president Mohamed Siyad Barre(aun) was Egyptian and creator of Somali script Shire Jaamac Ahmed (aun) was Yemeni

stop the BS people, Hiraab, Ina Nur and Ahmed Gurey are all Marexan, the Empires and Generals of Adal Kingdom

propaganda is not healthy, your first main argument was that Marexan dont settle north Somalia how can we posibly take you serious you bunch of bafoons, Hutu

im leaving this filth, i will only end up getting dirt on me

[Somaliman50]

Iman Ahmed Gurey is MArexan, im tired of this beg friend thing, stop claiming men who are in our lineage men who are well known amongst us.... tomorrow you will claim president Mohamed Siyad Barre(aun) was Egyptian and creator of Somali script Shire Jaamac Ahmed (aun) was Yemeni

stop the BS people, Hiraab, Ina Nur and Ahmed Gurey are all Marexan, the Empires and Generals of Adal Kingdom

propaganda is not healthy, your first main argument was that Marexan dont settle north Somalia how can we posibly take you serious you bunch of bafoons, Hutu

im leaving this filth, i will only end up getting dirt on me

i could say wallahi that imam ahmad gurey was hawiye. 1000%% he was karanle hawiye. he came from the family of garaad abuun cadaadshe, from the reer garaad of seexawle karanle. like i said, he was born in hoobad, balo province, a region where only karanle lives out of all somalis. the fact remains he was a balawi hence my arguement that he is karanle is stronger than any other theory of him being something else. hawiye lived as far as harrar back then, so you r the real bufoon. he was not darood AT ALL and there is not one piece of evidence which suggests so in the slightest. dont try to associate him with your jeberti xabashi ex slave lineage as the imam comes from irir samaale and governed over the adal kingdom.

[GENERAL_SNM]

This man lost his war against the British they controlled somaliland so why did they not turn the local population to christianity as claimed by his supporters. The man was a qabilist who was trying to bring the Dhullo's and OG's back to Hargiesa but we are too smart for them. We let him and the british slug it out and the winner was never in doubt.

My friends enemy is my friend....

[snoop12]

besides the actually Facts, more than enough people will tell you Ahmed Gurey is Darood and Marexan and History books are only saying he is either Marexan or Arab,(same thing anyway) and the fact that he fits in very well with our lineage at the time and is indeed Related to Ina Nuur, here are some hints:

Ina Nuur is his Nephew which tells you Ahmed Gurey and him are closely related hint hint

Ina Nuur was his successor, who actually deserves credit for effectively destroying the Gaalo empire and completing the mission hint hint

Ina Nuur married Ahmed Gureys widow, a tradition that is well known in Somali community, you might not know its customs but if you know hint hint



i know ex President Mohamed Siyad Barre (aun) did a perfect job of equality and mass mixing, but prior to him, no Karanle or whatever you said could lead a strong army of thousands of Marexan, the most feared tribe in Somalia, NOWAY

come on man dont bring out the bad in me, i dont want to insult the great moriyaan tribe of hawiyo just because a ignorant misinformed mururursade happened to go the wrong way down the Darood tree, you should try MJ they are more tolerant and only enslave Habar digir

[GENERAL_SNM]

Why would you claim somebody on evidence the late dictator distorted? Is it not desperation that you would hang on to a historical figure on this bases.

Walle I'm waiting for the day a marexaan comes in here and claims Ahmed Gurey is alive and lives in Gedo. Such are the lies of these people.

[snoop12]

what are you talking about man, do you have comprehension problems??

dont you know Marexan are a people who are naturally fierce and powerful?, it is the norm to associate Marexan and terms like Powerful, Worrier, Fierce etc etc the colonist new too well of this

both in the Ahmed Gurey quest and in the Sayids quest marexan were numbering in the thousands, niggah fall back

[RebelLion1]

The sayid was a warlord who used islam as a cover, I don't think any sane somali should be excusing the looting and crimes he committed, he was far from perfect.


That being said, he fought colonialists, and in that sense he is a somali hero and no one should deny that as well.

[ModerateMuslim]

this thread is stupid... made by a qabilist.

the man is death (aun).... move the fuk on.

[BaasAbuur]

Awesome response by Voltage. You said all I wanted to say. GRANT SUPPORTS THE USE OF FORCE BY ISRAEL BUT PREACHES NON-VOILENCE WHEN FIGHTING AGAINST COLONIALISTS WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ALL PROBLEMS IN AFRICA TODAY. Young Abakar really needs to overcome his insecurity. It is becoming a little too depressing to watch him continually humiliate himself here with his occasional baseless drivel.

The dubious military administration under the ideological tutelage of nomadic political doctrine deliberately forged a Sayid Mohamed Abdulle Hassan hero-ization scheme in an agenda to exonerate him and his Dervish militia from the genocide they committed against innocent peoples of diverse Somali communities in the north as well as in the south."

Grant to be honest I never agreed with you much before but I now view you with eyes I had not before. You are nothing but a pig, an apologist for African colonialism and disgusting white imperialism.

Sayyid Mohammed Abdulle Hassan is a hero, the father of Somali nationalism and the man that stood up to repulse the British pigs and their Ethiopian christian allies that united to subjugate us and change our way of life. He is a hero who resisted at a time when the British pigs thought they were the kings of the world and our land belonged to them. He is a hero resisted when the British pigs brought their devalued religion and perverse way of life to forecefully alter our religion, culture, and way of life and attempted to do so as they had done with other African and Asian societies around the world.

I mean just who do you think you are? You claim to have been in Somalia for a max two years in the 60's as a peace corps volunteer and since then have not been in or had interaction with Somalia. Who gives you the authority to comment with finality the affairs and history of our people? What legitimacy do you have? What authority and recognition do you hold?

Will you then, as an American, come and say the Americans who died for independence did not die as a result of resisting the British but died as a result of "George Washington's war". Will you ever utter such? Nay! Because you are a disgusting hypocritical pig. That is what you are!

How dare you come here and accuse the Sayid, the man who resisted the British, of "genocide" when it is the focking British who air bombed our people (the first usage in modern warefare) and brought even their native troops from as far as India and Asia to come and do battle in our land? According to your pig logic the Sayid is one responsible for the people that died as a RESULT OF resisting the British but not the British who came to subjugate us in our land. Oh, we should have taken it Bending! Huh Grant? We should have done that right? Lean forward and bend for the African colonialism? Right?

Pig!

Somalis are a clannish society and there are some clans that took the brunt of the war against the British, such as the Isaaq, but even the Isaaq's greatest men will tell you their clan has no right to continue to hold grudges against the Sayid! Read the book of Jama Mohammed Ghalib, an Isaaq defector from the Siad Barre government and was there when Somaliland was announced in 1991, in his book "Somalia: The Cost of Dictatorship" he writes HE was born at a time when the Sayid attacked his sub-sub-subclan and he was left orphaned. But he then goes to you say the Sayid had a RIGHT to attack his sub-sub-subclan because they were under the tutelage of the British and the Sayid was fighting the British AND their foot soldiers, which he did successfully until the first modern application of air warfare was tested in Somalia. Even the Libyan leader Omar Muktar had to wage war against the Sanussi Sufis who served on the side of the Italians and today the Italians accept the responsibility for EVERYTHING that happened in Libya at that time because the war and everything that occured was a direct result of their imperialism. Which is why Italy will be paying reparations to Libya for a long time!

If it was not for the Sayid, today my name or surname would include "John" or "Gordon" and our way of life would have been destroyed. But because the Sayid resisted I continue to hold on to my culture, language, and traditions. How dare a white colonialism-apologizing imperialist pig like yourself meddle in my affairs and seek to discuss and question the position the Sayid should hold in the historical psyche of our people. Over my dead body old man!

[Somaliman50]

besides the actually Facts, more than enough people will tell you Ahmed Gurey is Darood and Marexan and History books are only saying he is either Marexan or Arab,(same thing anyway) and the fact that he fits in very well with our lineage at the time and is indeed Related to Ina Nuur, here are some hints:

Ina Nuur is his Nephew which tells you Ahmed Gurey and him are closely related hint hint

Ina Nuur was his successor, who actually deserves credit for effectively destroying the Gaalo empire and completing the mission hint hint

Ina Nuur married Ahmed Gureys widow, a tradition that is well known in Somali community, you might not know its customs but if you know hint hint



i know ex President Mohamed Siyad Barre (aun) did a perfect job of equality and mass mixing, but prior to him, no Karanle or whatever you said could lead a strong army of thousands of Marexan, the most feared tribe in Somalia, NOWAY

come on man dont bring out the bad in me, i dont want to insult the great moriyaan tribe of hawiyo just because a ignorant misinformed mururursade happened to go the wrong way down the Darood tree, you should try MJ they are more tolerant and only enslave Habar digir

war dabaalkaan ina waaq yaa naga qabo. warya, mar dambe kuguma celinaayo, imam axmad gurey wuxuu ka mid ahaa cidii garaad abuun cadaadshe, (buugaga wey ku jiraan sheekadaas) oo ahaa odey karanle ee saylac joogey, marka waa reer garaad ee seexawle karanle. ninkaani nur mujahid (haduuba jirey) wuxuu guursaday xaaskiisu markuu dhintey, lagama wado waa isku cid because hogaanka dhaxal ma aheyn. weliba, imam axmad (korkiisu allaha barakeeyo) durriyadiisu maanta harrar iyo dire dawa waad ka heli kartaa, weyna ku abtirsadaan karanle hawiye. inaad propagandadii afweyne qaadatid maahanee, daliil uma heysid at all inuu tolkaaga kasoo jeedey. ka soco, hawiye oo dhan iskaba dhaaf, murusade iyo habar gidir ma idinkaa gaari kartiin? waa nimanki dalka hogaamin jirey ( you remember governo sacad eh ) markii laga eego siyaasiyiinta, ganacsadayashu, iyo ciidamada. afweynaha iyo tolkiisa maba eysan jirin todobaatanki ka hor, markaasuu isku dayey inuu reer baadiyaha doolow kasoo qaado oo korneelo iyo jeneraalo ka dhigo habeenka barqinimadiis. iga daaya nimanyahow, anigoo murusade ah ayaan kaa taariikh weynahay, qurunki ceelwaaq ku gaajonaya xita sanku neefle ma ila noqon karo.

[peace-]

horta what hell is karanle ma dad baa?

[Somaliman50]

horta what hell is karanle ma dad baa?

peace, karanle waa curadki hawiye. ahmad gurey was from that clan.