Imam Axmed Guray and the Habar Magaadi connection

[CoolPoisons]

Coolpoison, the only reliabe book is Futah al habash which was written 500 years ago. "Hirabu bin Goita Tedros bin Adam*, does that sound somali to you?

Bal firi, he cant even bring meeshu magaca ka keenay laakin this is what im gonna bring

Magaca Hirabu was Ahmed ibn Hirabu

I have totally lost track of this topic.

Twisted, there is an unwritten rule in the world of history. The closer the source is to the period discussed, the more reliable.

What you are quoting is a poor translated abridged version of Futuh Habashi, published in 2003.

What I quoted is the original book written by Pankhurst 150 years, which in turn contains the lost Arabic documents that cannot be found else where.

First name first of all was Garaad Axmed bin Hiraabu (see underlined text straight from Pankhurst's work):


Secondly, Pankhurst writes:
Les Somalis fatigues de voir leurs troupeux enleves et leur pays devaste se rendirent aupres de l'Imam ayant a leur tete leur chef Harabuwah (Hirabu). Ainsi, tous les Somalis avec leur chef firent la paix avec l'Imam, une paix parfaite et sincere. A la suite de cela, L'Imam, fit des preparatifs pour une guerre sainte (Jihad); il avait en vue l'Abyssinie. Les Somalis avec leur chef Harabuwah etaient maintenant soumis a son autorite(I).



Roughly translated as:

The Somalis, weary of the destruction inflicted on them went to the Imaam (Imaam Axmed), led by their (chosen) leader Hirabu. The Somalis with their leader concluded a complete peace with the Imaam.

After this, the Imaam made preparations for Jihad against Abyssinia, assembling his troops and the Somalis with their leader, Hirabu.

Finally, the 2003 abridged source that you are quoting says:

After this, the Imam made preparations for Jihad against Abyssinia, assembling his troops and the Somalis with their leader, Hirabu

which you conviently left out.

In summary, Somalis had 2 main leaders, Imaam Axmed Gurey and Imaam Nuur ibn Mujaahid. One main chieftain Hiraabu and several mini chieftains such as Garaad Daawuud of the Habar Magaadle and Garaad Mataan of the Gerri Koombe.

[Siciid85]

Not reliable enough, the only main book that is well trusted is Futuh al habash which was made 500 years ago, are you telling me the name "Hirabu bin Goita Tedros bin Adam*, answer this question or i shall ask the habashi?

[The_Emperior5]

Coolpoison, the only reliabe book is Futah al habash which was written 500 years ago. "Hirabu bin Goita Tedros bin Adam*, does that sound somali to you?

Sounds half tigray have Portugeze Coolpoisen why u so angry why are you attacking sicid he just mentioned it and brought it here

[CoolPoisons]

Not reliable enough, the only main book that is well trusted is Futuh al habash which is was made 500 years ago, are you telling me the name "Hirabu bin Goita Tedros bin Adam*, answer this question or i shall ask the habashi.

langaab.com weli wuxu ku haya magaca aanan laga helin meel kale. ileen yarka doesnt understand afsomali

Siciid, U dont create history in somalinet. habarmagaadala aad ka hadleysid nin Marehan ayee hoosyimadeen in 1500 and again in 1969. what does that tell U?

[Siciid85]

Emperior, i think i should ask the tigray then if they know the true roots of Hirabu bin Goita Tedros bin Adam, now we all know the myths they use to feed to the public in the forums, no more myths we now know even the real name of their so called chief.

[CoolPoisons]

Coolpoison, the only reliabe book is Futah al habash which was written 500 years ago. "Hirabu bin Goita Tedros bin Adam*, does that sound somali to you?

Sounds half tigray have Portugeze Coolpoisen why u so angry why are you attacking sicid he just mentioned it and brought it here

^^ dee mangaab baa tahay. I asked him where does it say in Futuh Habashi. Markaas ayuu ku so celinaya magac aan jirin when i brought this

war heedhe, meeshan evidence ayaa lagu shaqeeya. not wax websiteyada laga keenay.

I have totally lost track of this topic.

Twisted, there is an unwritten rule in the world of history. The closer the source is to the period discussed, the more reliable.

What you are quoting is a poor translated abridged version of Futuh Habashi, published in 2003.

What I quoted is the original book written by Pankhurst 150 years, which in turn contains the lost Arabic documents that cannot be found else where.

First name first of all was Garaad Axmed bin Hiraabu (see underlined text straight from Pankhurst's work):


Secondly, Pankhurst writes:
Les Somalis fatigues de voir leurs troupeux enleves et leur pays devaste se rendirent aupres de l'Imam ayant a leur tete leur chef Harabuwah (Hirabu). Ainsi, tous les Somalis avec leur chef firent la paix avec l'Imam, une paix parfaite et sincere. A la suite de cela, L'Imam, fit des preparatifs pour une guerre sainte (Jihad); il avait en vue l'Abyssinie. Les Somalis avec leur chef Harabuwah etaient maintenant soumis a son autorite(I).



Roughly translated as:

The Somalis, weary of the destruction inflicted on them went to the Imaam (Imaam Axmed), led by their (chosen) leader Hirabu. The Somalis with their leader concluded a complete peace with the Imaam.

After this, the Imaam made preparations for Jihad against Abyssinia, assembling his troops and the Somalis with their leader, Hirabu.

Finally, the 2003 abridged source that you are quoting says:

After this, the Imam made preparations for Jihad against Abyssinia, assembling his troops and the Somalis with their leader, Hirabu

which you conviently left out.

In summary, Somalis had 2 main leaders, Imaam Axmed Gurey and Imaam Nuur ibn Mujaahid. One main chieftain Hiraabu and several mini chieftains such as Garaad Daawuud of the Habar Magaadle and Garaad Mataan of the Gerri Koombe.

[Siciid85]

^^^^^ Coolpoison iis daaji don't have a blood pressure it's not our fault that you were fed propagenda and lies blame your uncle siad bare.

[The_Emperior5]

Emperior, i think i should ask the tigray then if they know the true roots of Hirabu bin Goita Tedros bin Adam, now we all know the myths they use to feed to the public in the forums, no more myths we now know even the real name of their so called chief.

Hey sicid post it on that Ethiopian Forum maybe Tadorus is related to melez

[CoolPoisons]

camirti ayaa la bilaabo so ma ahan? ciidankeyga wey maqan yihin, and this Ur homefield.

Diyaargarooba

[Siciid85]

Emperior, more secrets will be revealed from the book of Futuh al habash keep in tone , kacaan propagenda will be busted even more.

[The_Emperior5]

Coolpoisen dont post a book written by an unknown author or any other language the original fatuh al habash is written in arabic i post a page of that book in arabic talking about the geri when they joined the imams forcess

[LobsterUnit]

Gaajo, i told you Imam axmed guray was never somali , we only had 1 somali and that was axmed guray husayn but you didn't believe, Gaajo i ll try to upload it as a screenshot.

Sxb, i wasn't disputing that he wasn't SOmali, which matters as much(not a great deal) as Salhudeen was a Kurd. All I was saying was that some books do mention that Nur Ibn Mujahid was his nephew and successor, so it is not something coolpoison made up. But I don't know if it is written in the original futuh al xabash.

[CoolPoisons]

dad badan ayaa riyo ku jira

dad aan taariikh lahayn want to make taarikh in somalinet

[Siciid85]

Gaajo, the original futah al habash mentions nothing about Nur mujahiid being the nephew or brother of Imam Axmed Guray Ibrahim al Gazhi, but his only mentioned as the brother of axmed guray husayn the habar maagadle chief.

[The_Emperior5]

Hadj Yusuf AbdulRahman (editor), Kitab Rabi’a al-Qulub fi Dhikr Manaqib wa Fada’il Sayyidina as Sheikh Nur Hussein (“The Springtime of Hearts in Memory of the Virtues and Merits of Our Lord the Sheikh Nur Hussein”), Cairo, 1927


Gaajo unit read this book itw written by An arab Author About Emir Nur ibn xussein it talks about his Biography
He was the brother Of Axmed guray Xusseyn the Isaq habarmagaadle chief.