Why are Somalis in the UK more successful than Somalis in US

[BlackVelvet]

I don't think I've ever heard people in the UK argue about Isaaq not being the majority it's just one of those things. They're the majority in almost every Somali inhabited city outside London as well as some areas in London like Woolwich

Why are Somalis in the UK more successful? Maybe because it's easier for us to go to uni and get onto the career ladder. Other than that, I think we're probably all the same. There is the abuse of benefits issue but when you go to majority Somali areas you will see Somali businesses, so whoever wants to make something out of themselves will find a way no matter where they are.

[Cumar-Labasuul]

gobdoon, A selection of these 'seamen':

[Cumar-Labasuul]

I don't think I've ever heard people in the UK argue about Isaaq not being the majority it's just one of those things. They're the majority in almost every Somali inhabited city outside London as well as some areas in London like Woolwich

I think London (apart from east and south-east) is majority Hawiye now along with Birmingham

[gobdoon]

Nin isfaanshey wa RI is nuugtey OO SIILANYONA MAXUU QABTAY.

[Cumar-Labasuul]

This is what you said:

bal odayasha seamenka aha ii sheeg mid kaliya oo wadankan wax ka tacbaday

well siilaanyo graduated with masters honours from economics (in the 50s) and now he is president of somaliland. What have you done?

[BlackVelvet]

I don't think I've ever heard people in the UK argue about Isaaq not being the majority it's just one of those things. They're the majority in almost every Somali inhabited city outside London as well as some areas in London like Woolwich

I think London (apart from east and south-east) is majority Hawiye now along with Birmingham

I've heard something like that before but not to that extent.

I know some Mareexaan families in the South lakin I don't think I've ever heard of a "Darood area" so to speak.

But then again, almost everyone is a mix of these tribes. I know quite a few half Isaaq half Dhulbahantes and half Habag Gidir half MJs so you're all on the same boat.

[juzme123]

This is what you said:

bal odayasha seamenka aha ii sheeg mid kaliya oo wadankan wax ka tacbaday

well siilaanyo graduated with masters honours from economics (in the 50s) and now he is president of somaliland. What have you done?

He also has a masters from ...can't remember... in Economics.

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As forinay wadanka wax ka qabtaan. I know a lot of former seamen (family friends/family/extedned family) and they generally tend to be the most affluent of the Somalis both in the U.K and in Somaliland

I know this old man that has been in the U.K for 70 years. All his children, by several wives, have a university education and professional well-paid jobs. His sons now own several houses each. The old man himself owns countless houses in Somaliland. He is one of the most generous people I have ever met and he is always collecting money fro some project or other back home and is always giving charity to teh poor back home. So yes they do contribute Something.

I kwo of at least 2 other former 'seamen' and I can tell you that the most affluent families in Burco (for example) are theirs, they own entire estates of houses, commercial property, land, businesses and beero

[Executive]

Somalis in the US are more economically active and more significant in the Education sector. Most Somali professors and other educators are from the US like Xamud suggested.

But Somalis in Europe are more politically involved, both in their adopted countries and back home. They also contribute lot to the development of back home. Also a lot of the Somalis from Europe are actively involved in businesses across Africa and the middle east.

This is just my observation having visited the US and living in EU.

[Hyperactive]

lol i want ask ma magaloyinka by qabil ba lo daga?

[Executive]

lol i want ask ma magaloyinka by qabil ba lo daga?

No, not at all. I just laugh at those comments.

There is no way a person can tell which qabil lives where and who is majority in which town and so on.

[BlackVelvet]

lol i want ask ma magaloyinka by qabil ba lo daga?

No, not at all. I just laugh at those comments.

There is no way a person can tell which qabil lives where and who is majority in which town and so on.

To the contrary, there are way too many Isaaqs in Bristol. You can't argue with that

[Somalian_Boqor]

Horta there is no debate about the fact Somalis in America being much more successful then our grass eating counter-parts in the UK.

In America there is three options for Somalis:

1. Working a full time Job.
2. Getting Higher Education
3. Business

I don't know about other parts of Somalia, lakiin Puntlanders in Seattle Washington, all own properties and businesses in Puntland and else where in East Africa.

[Voltage]

Somalinet is the only place in the world, including cyber, where you will see someone allege immigrants, particularly Somali immigrants, are more successful in UK or Europe and find it easier to live, integrate, and rise up the ladder than in the United States.

[Hyperactive]

I don't know about other parts of Somalia, lakiin Puntlanders in Seattle Washington, all own properties and businesses in Puntland and else where in East Africa.

maybe are older generation, but do you think younger generation even know where they're from in somalia? im just asking!!

[Voltage]

My abti Jamal Hashi CEO of Safari Express chains showing the Swedes Somali success on American soil



Swedes eye Somali success

A visiting entourage wants to learn from the business acumen of some of Minnesota's enterprising immigrants.

By ALLIE SHAH, Star Tribune

Last update: October 19, 2010 - 11:59 PM

Jamal Hashi stood outside the sprawling Karmel Square mall in Minneapolis, surrounded by visitors from Sweden.

They had traveled thousands of miles to learn how he went from struggling refugee to successful restaurateur.

How he opened one restaurant, then another.

How he came up with the perfect recipe to introduce Somalia to the Minnesota State Fair: camel-on-a-stick.

How, the Swedes wondered, can they get in on this?

The commercial success of Minnesota's enterprising Somali community has been noticed in Sweden, which has its own burgeoning Somali population. A delegation of 24 Swedish government and academic officials are in town all week to try to unlock the secrets behind that success and carry them back home.

"It's in our DNA to be entrepreneurial people," said Osman Sahardeed, a native of Somalia who runs a business doing translation. "Since the seventh century, Somalis were dealing with the outside world. They know how to market their skills."

The Swedes' whirlwind tour is hosted by the African Development Center of Minnesota, a nonprofit entity that offers lending and technical help to refugees to start their own businesses.

Seeds of their historic visit were first planted in 2005 when a Swedish professor named Benny Carlson traveled to Minnesota and was struck by the sheer number of booming markets and malls run by Somali-Americans in the Twin Cities.

He vowed to return with a team of government officials to use Minnesota as an example of what can be done in Sweden.

Besides meeting with local Somali-American business leaders, the entourage has met with Minneapolis Mayor R.T. Rybak and other city officials to discuss planning and economic development issues. They'll also pay a visit to the American Swedish Institute and learn about Minnesota's changing demographics from state officials.

http://www.startribune.com/local/105314 ... _oaE3miUsZ