Federalism

[The_Emperior5]

Knight there is no such thing as Daarood when it comes to Somali Politics The Majeerteen and the Smaller harti clans in Puntland will never accept an authority in Mogadisho even headed By their own Daarood Merehaan remember Siyaad bare , History teaches us that have you not seen how they played Sakiin Against Farmaajo few months ago and how Faroole was Lobbying in Neighbouring Countries to remove faarmaajo so that his Cousin Abdiweli can take his place this year and next year the Majeerteens are going to challenge the abgaal for the head of state wa siyasasd taasi there is no naxariis

You do got a point. Of course, politically there is no naxariis iyo walaltimo. I came to Snet and all I have seen was Daarood-on-Daarood bashing and animosity. It's amusing at the same time, sad. Raggina Isaaq....popcorn baad naku kor uuntaan som'aha.

Okay, forget wax layidhado "Daarood"...ee lakinse, ma jira wax layidhado Isaaq?

See you are seeing the light there is no such thing as Daarood , if there was something called Daarood, Ogadens would be safe in Bosaaso ,Merehans would love Puntland and faroole .

Isaaqs dont politically agree all the time the only thing holy to them is the existence of the republic of Somaliland. But they do not agree how Somaliland should be ruled or by who or what party Isaaqs From Ethiopia as far as Danood and Jigjiga have little with Somaliland but in their hearts and minds they Support Somaliland and will never allow some one to harm it., For example the former telecommunication Minister and information minister and spokesmen of the Djibouti Government Ali abdi farax Born in djibouti has little with Somaliland but several times spoke how recogniton for Somaliland is important in the region , its not a policy the Djiboutian government welcomes but he does that. Cidii uma diran.

[greenday]

i don't understand your question. pl is a state within somalia, so if pl is apart of somalia how is it possible to put pl before somalia?[/

It’s a simple question; does he put state before nation, qabiil before nation? Sure it possible to put Pl before the nation since he is the prime minister he has powers to give aid to puntland while there are more deserving areas, will he do that so that Pl can develop because he is a die-hard puntlander? Or will sorting out Somalis problems be at the top of his to do list?

i still don't follow. what do you mean by more "deserving areas"? you know when we're talking about aid, we are not talking about food aid, right? for ex, somalia is given a certain number of scholarships..shouldn't students in pl receive a portion of the scholarships that are given to somalia? or should those scholarships instead be given to students from mogadishu or an area you deem to be "more deserving"?

and why does it seem like you think puntland developing is somehow detrimental to somalia? is puntland not apart of somalia? one would think puntland developing would benefit somalia.. if not, why have more than 350,000 IDPs flocked to the state?

btw, the tfg is based on the 4.5 system and just like sh. sharif represents his constituents, pm abdiweli represents his. he is a puntlander, he loves and cares about his state and worked to establish the largest puntland diaspora organization. i don't see why you would even question whether he would put puntland before somalia when you're not questioning whether sh. sharif would put mogadishu before somalia ( and he has)?

You seem to understand what i am saying enough to give me an answer. As for shariif everyone knows dude gives fock about his qabiil, and Muqdisho is the capital if you weren’t aware. Judging from your answer this guy should be the Pl president and not the Somali prime minister

[Knight of Wisdom]

See you are seeing the light there is no such thing as Daarood , if there was something called Daarood, Ogadens would be safe in Bosaaso ,Merehans would love Puntland and faroole .

Isaaqs dont politically agree all the time the only thing holy to them is the existence of the republic of Somaliland. But they do not agree how Somaliland should be ruled or by who or what party Isaaqs From Ethiopia as far as Danood and Jigjiga have little with Somaliland but in their hearts and minds they Support Somaliland and will never allow some one to harm it., For example the former telecommunication Minister and information minister and spokesmen of the Djibouti Government Ali abdi farax Born in djibouti has little with Somaliland but several times spoke how recogniton for Somaliland is important in the region , its not a policy the Djiboutian government welcomes but he does that. Cidii uma diran.

So, what makes the hearts and minds of all Isaaq united, while the hearts and minds of all the Daaroods are different from one another?

You mention Danoot, but last I checked, Danoot was Ogaden/Dhulbahante territory. Emperior, ma waxad so celisay the "Iska Claimgaree waxad aragtiid".

[The_Emperior5]

Daanood is where Habaryoonis reer caynaashe meat Ogaden Makahil anything south of danood is Makahil Ogaden anything North of danood is Habaryoonis. do you Liyo Police commander of the Danood district is Habaryoonis how can you forget the raid he ordered last year may in buhoodle.

I dont know u should check the hearts of your Tribesmen and check why they are not United

[Mckuus]

Federalism all the way

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Future provinces (gobollada) of Somalia

[gemini_snake]

i still don't follow. what do you mean by more "deserving areas"? you know when we're talking about aid, we are not talking about food aid, right? for ex, somalia is given a certain number of scholarships..shouldn't students in pl receive a portion of the scholarships that are given to somalia? or should those scholarships instead be given to students from mogadishu or an area you deem to be "more deserving"?

and why does it seem like you think puntland developing is somehow detrimental to somalia? is puntland not apart of somalia? one would think puntland developing would benefit somalia.. if not, why have more than 350,000 IDPs flocked to the state?

btw, the tfg is based on the 4.5 system and just like sh. sharif represents his constituents, pm abdiweli represents his. he is a puntlander, he loves and cares about his state and worked to establish the largest puntland diaspora organization. i don't see why you would even question whether he would put puntland before somalia when you're not questioning whether sh. sharif would put mogadishu before somalia ( and he has)?

You seem to understand what i am saying enough to give me an answer. As for shariif everyone knows dude gives fock about his qabiil, and Muqdisho is the capital if you weren’t aware. Judging from your answer this guy should be the Pl president and not the Somali prime minister

you make absolutely no sense. so funds can be ( and have been) diverted to mogadishu and it gets a pass because it's the "capital" of somalia ( even though it's a warzone and completely unlivable), but if funds were diverted to puntland ( an area that is home to more than 350,000 idps and a base for many aid organizations), somehow it's detrimental to somalia. in your book sh. sharif is not a qabilist for acting the way that he does, but dr. abdiweli is even though he is done nothing to receive that label. if this is how you feel, you could have just been upfront about it instead of mincing your words like a coward.

[Knight of Wisdom]

Daanood is where Habaryoonis reer caynaashe meat Ogaden Makahil anything south of danood is Makahil Ogaden anything North of danood is Habaryoonis. do you Liyo Police commander of the Danood district is Habaryoonis how can you forget the raid he ordered last year may in buhoodle.

I dont know u should check the hearts of your Tribesmen and check why they are not United

What did the raid benefited him, last year? Wa tii laga qabqabtay his militia, looking like they came from Auschwitz.

Tulada Danood iyo it's surrounding areas is Ogaden iyo Dhulbahante. West Danood is Ogaden, East Danood is Dhulbahante.

North, is Ogaden, waliba Reer Isaaq.

[melo]

If puntland is anything to go by, then no. Regional states should act as regional states. They shouldn't pretend to be new countries.

[The_Emperior5]

Daanood is where Habaryoonis reer caynaashe meat Ogaden Makahil anything south of danood is Makahil Ogaden anything North of danood is Habaryoonis. do you Liyo Police commander of the Danood district is Habaryoonis how can you forget the raid he ordered last year may in buhoodle.

I dont know u should check the hearts of your Tribesmen and check why they are not United

What did the raid benefited him, last year? Wa tii laga qabqabtay his militia, looking like they came from Auschwitz.

Tulada Danood iyo it's surrounding areas is Ogaden iyo Dhulbahante. West Danood is Ogaden, East Danood is Dhulbahante.

North, is Ogaden, waliba Reer Isaaq.

Pinky the raid was benefited him because some of the Qurjis stole his qad and he got hit back eventhough some of his soldiers got killed but the next day he was chewing ,,,

Any how ,, Danood is a shared District as i told you before. Emperor Haille sellesie in 1952 made a deal with the Darood Ugaasyo they said that no Isaaq should pass danood Haile selleise made that sharic No isaaq Should pass Danood ,before the 1950s Hy were raiding as far as Welwaal and reach all the way to wardheer , And there are no Reer isaaq living in Danood area its mostly Makahil reer isaaq are found mostly in Dhagaxbuur area and south of aware. You don't know the degaan Pinky soo kale baro..

[Knight of Wisdom]

If puntland is anything to go by, then no. Regional states should act as regional states. They shouldn't pretend to be new countries.

[The_Emperior5]

If puntland is anything to go by, then no. Regional states should act as regional states. They shouldn't pretend to be new countries.

Knight Puntland exist because there is no government in Somalia they took control of their own land what do you want that puntland should just wait for a miracle to come out of Mogadisho and their problems would be solved no one in this world is going to solve your problems you have to do that your self. They might have more power than the central authority In Somalia but that exist because there is no central authority in Somalia well there is a western backed government but with no institutions corrupt as hell.

[Knight of Wisdom]

Pinky the raid was benefited him because some of the Qurjis stole his qad and he got hit back eventhough some of his soldiers got killed but the next day he was chewing ,,,

Any how ,, Danood is a shared District as i told you before. Emperor Haille sellesie in 1952 made a deal with the Darood Ugaasyo they said that no Isaaq should pass danood Haile selleise made that sharic No isaaq Should pass Danood ,before the 1950s Hy were raiding as far as Welwaal and reach all the way to wardheer , And there are no Reer isaaq living in Danood area its mostly Makahil reer isaaq are found mostly in Dhagaxbuur area and south of aware. You don't know the degaan Pinky soo kale baro..

Dude, are you telling me that Beesha Isaaq is abiding by the Rules and Regulations made by Haille Selassie, a guy who was Christian and died in 1974?

How much do you guys respect Haille Selassie?

War ninyaho, if Habar Yonis was raiding as far as Welwaal iyo Wardheer....wouldn't that mean that Habar Yonis would be raiding Buuhoodle as well?

Emperior, been badanida.

[gemini_snake]

If puntland is anything to go by, then no. Regional states should act as regional states. They shouldn't pretend to be new countries.

if everyone in the country went the route of puntland, perhaps we wouldn't be experiencing a bloody famine in some of the most fertile regions of the country


establish peace and some sort of governance in your lands first and then perhaps the government of puntland will take your opinion into consideration. until then you're like a unemployed highschool dropout giving advice to a employed university graduate on how to climb the corporate ladder.

[greenday]

you make absolutely no sense. so funds can be ( and have been) diverted to mogadishu and it gets a pass because it's the "capital" of somalia ( even though it's a warzone and completely unlivable), but if funds were diverted to puntland ( an area that is home to more than 350,000 idps and a base for many aid organizations), somehow it's detrimental to somalia. in your book sh. sharif is not a qabilist for acting the way that he does, but dr. abdiweli is even though he is done nothing to receive that label. if this is how you feel, you could have just been upfront about it instead of mincing your words like a coward.

No need to get all hot and bother missy. I asked you a simple and legit question but then again horaa looyiri “far iyo meel bugtaa is og”. I hope the picture you paint of the man is not a true reflection for the sake of the nation.

[melo]

If puntland is anything to go by, then no. Regional states should act as regional states. They shouldn't pretend to be new countries.

Knight Puntland exist because there is no government in Somalia they took control of their own land what do you want that puntland should just wait for a miracle to come out of Mogadisho and their problems would be solved no one in this world is going to solve your problems you have to do that your self. They might have more power than the central authority In Somalia but that exist because there is no central authority in Somalia well there is a western backed government but with no institutions corrupt as hell.

They should drop the labo wajiile attitude. Either be pro Somalia, or be seccessionist like Somaliland. Puntland act like they care about the Calan, but then crap on it whenever they feel like it.