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AL NAZIKH WALMANZUUKH

about abrogation of some verses in the quran it was not me who invented that i just was qouting about sunni scholars who believe there are abrogated verses in the quran, so called . as i said its not me who said all thinks i was writing. i took one example verse in the quran which many scholars claime it was abrogated and allah sent down another verse to replace that original verse.

[Mondey]

Warya, no Sunni Scholar believes that the Quran is incomplete, please dont lie.

Abrogation and replacement of Ayahs is true and even Allah says that He will abrogate some verses and replace them with one that is equal or complete: ''Whatever a Verse (sign) do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, We bring a better one or similar to it. Know you not that Allâh is able to do all things?'' Al Baqarah : 106.

what about alleged stoning verse in the quran? listen sh umul tafsiir on suuratul noor. and hear about this verses whichs not in the quran he says omar bin khadaab hear it and said this is was quran. but this verse never made in the quran.
and according .(Sunan Ibn Majah. – Hadith No.1944

Narrated by Ayesha (R) When the verse enjoining stoning for adultery and Nursing of a baby 10 times were revealed. It was written on a leaf, and placed under the bed; but the leaf was accidentally eaten by a Female Sheep (or a goat) while the Prophet Muhummed (S) was on his death-bed. [and thus the verse was lost – )

what is your point? everyone knows God can abrogate whatever verse he wants, that does'nt mean humans can do that too. you should know types of abrogation first.. sometimes a verse is abrogated literally but its judgment stands, sometimes its judgment is abrogated but its literally there in the quran.. sometimes its abrogated completely. stoning verse was abrogated only literally.
this particular question i see usually in anti-islam forums.

[Colonel]

They got lucky. Still, it shows that they were grovelling to their white overlords. The Ottomans during their peak would never do such a thing.

The debate is flawed in essence. You are forced to either side with secularism or Shabaab/Taliban. I propose that we support neither, but try to implement a just Islam that Allah SWT revealed. It might seem like a pipe dream, but it isn't like we don't have precedent. It has worked before, and Allah SWT does not send rules of governance that cannot be implemented. The defeatism prevalent amongst Muslim Youth is very sad. May Allah SWT help all of us.

The secularist kids' first thought when they hear shari'a is alshabab, they use the strictness of certain groups in order not to admit that they believe man made law is superior than Allah's.

Those w groups you cited have good and bad in them but there is no doubt that they are absolutely better than the secularists in identity crisis.

[Daanyerow]

Yalaxow wuu fiicna gadaal uu waayeel Abgaal ka noqday.