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Osob101 wrote:

AbdiWahab252 wrote:AbgaalKing01,

Haji, are you advocating for the displacement of all the Mudulood from Karaan ?


Osob,

Goof Abgaal ? Xaji, we know the cadcad are the original owners of Xamar. It is Cadcad/Hiiraab/Murusade.

cadcad waa reer Xamar Goofkana waa goof Mudulood, Murusade waa iska abgaal reer mataan ayaa dhalaaye. eebow Airportka Galyako canshuurtisa soo keen horta

Bal Fiiri

Governor:Mudulood check
Mayor:Mudulood Check
14 out of 16 district : Mudulood check
Head of Airport:Mudulood check
Head of Port:Mudulood check

RovingMadness wrote:

Osob101 wrote:

AbdiWahab252 wrote:AbgaalKing01,

Haji, are you advocating for the displacement of all the Mudulood from Karaan ?


Osob,

Goof Abgaal ? Xaji, we know the cadcad are the original owners of Xamar. It is Cadcad/Hiiraab/Murusade.

cadcad waa reer Xamar Goofkana waa goof Mudulood, Murusade waa iska abgaal reer mataan ayaa dhalaaye. eebow Airportka Galyako canshuurtisa soo keen horta

Bal Fiiri

Governor:Mudulood check
Mayor:Mudulood Check
14 out of 16 district : Mudulood check
Head of Airport:Mudulood check
Head of Port:Mudulood check

greenday wrote:

abdalla11 wrote:Checkmate



LOL@ threatening with civil war

As the saying goes ciiyaari waa galin dambe

Perfect_Order wrote:

greenday wrote:PO, you know that the aid will be shared based on states so all the people who live in Muqdisho will benefit from the aid to banadir state while others dont have to share their aid, so its banadir state who will be at loss not the other way round.

Did you here him say only 15% of the tax is used by muqdisho So

He means only 15% go to the city maamul. But do you think that the other 85% goes to any other regions? The money the dowlad makes either goes to their pockets, to the armies, the xildhbans, but I don't hear dowlad giving money to aswj, to pro dowlad forces in other regions, or they are funding projects in other regions. So I would argue that the greater majority of the money goes to xamar directly or indirectly.

Abayoo look, Abgaal nor any other qabil did not build the port, nor the airport, nor the roads, nor make it the biggest markets and economic center in the south. Xamar is not Abgaal city, it is soomaali, and estabilishing a qabil based maamul there only alienates everyone else not protects the rights of abgaals. If it is one man one vote, then any group living there will have a say in the elections. Halkaas hala ku daayo.

Look his whole argument is purely qabilistic, and not based on historical ties. For example, in his view any abgaal that comes from any other region has more right to run for office than a third generation of another qabil. What kind of mentality is that?

All elections should have one man one vote, now if he goes to cabudwaaq, to run for office and he looses the election it's because he did not get majority of vote.

Now lets take present day xamar, we all know the support that the people living there whether they were bantu, hawiye, reer xamar, rahanwayne, etc gave to Farmajo. If he we were to run in an election for some kind of seat in xamar based on voting by the people, he would be automatically disqualified by this mentality based not on his merits but on his qabil. Despite the fact that he is overwhelmingly popular. The reason he became popular is because of the change he was able to bring, and that is because he was given a chance.

Personally I think this mentality is a reaction to what people believe were the policies of the last government, where they thought people got positions because of their qabil, and the local people were disenfranchised. But instead of moving forward, they want to establish that for themselves. It's like how a general wants to top a dictator not because he is bad, but he wishes he was the dictator.

Xamar is a federal city and will remain so despite what that guy might say or argue. Xamar is the size it is because the resources of the whole country for the last 60 years was put into it. Every Somali has a right to i

abdalla11 wrote:

greenday wrote:

abdalla11 wrote:Checkmate



LOL@ threatening with civil war

As the saying goes ciiyaari waa galin dambe

No greenday, Shariif wuu saxiixay as well as the PM and everyone that was present.

Are you against the outcome?

Bosaso unuka leh

Shirib wrote:Xamar has pretty much always been the largest city in Somalia

Perfect_Order wrote:

greenday wrote:PO, you know that the aid will be shared based on states so all the people who live in Muqdisho will benefit from the aid to banadir state while others dont have to share their aid, so its banadir state who will be at loss not the other way round.

Did you here him say only 15% of the tax is used by muqdisho So

He means only 15% go to the city maamul. But do you think that the other 85% goes to any other regions? The money the dowlad makes either goes to their pockets, to the armies, the xildhbans, but I don't hear dowlad giving money to aswj, to pro dowlad forces in other regions, or they are funding projects in other regions. So I would argue that the greater majority of the money goes to xamar directly or indirectly.

Abayoo look, Abgaal nor any other qabil did not build the port, nor the airport, nor the roads, nor make it the biggest markets and economic center in the south. Xamar is not Abgaal city, it is soomaali, and estabilishing a qabil based maamul there only alienates everyone else not protects the rights of abgaals. If it is one man one vote, then any group living there will have a say in the elections. Halkaas hala ku daayo.

greenday wrote:

Perfect_Order wrote:

greenday wrote:PO, you know that the aid will be shared based on states so all the people who live in Muqdisho will benefit from the aid to banadir state while others dont have to share their aid, so its banadir state who will be at loss not the other way round.

Did you here him say only 15% of the tax is used by muqdisho So

He means only 15% go to the city maamul. But do you think that the other 85% goes to any other regions? The money the dowlad makes either goes to their pockets, to the armies, the xildhbans, but I don't hear dowlad giving money to aswj, to pro dowlad forces in other regions, or they are funding projects in other regions. So I would argue that the greater majority of the money goes to xamar directly or indirectly.

Abayoo look, Abgaal nor any other qabil did not build the port, nor the airport, nor the roads, nor make it the biggest markets and economic center in the south. Xamar is not Abgaal city, it is soomaali, and estabilishing a qabil based maamul there only alienates everyone else not protects the rights of abgaals. If it is one man one vote, then any group living there will have a say in the elections. Halkaas hala ku daayo.

Its like saying you cant run for election in the UK if you are not a British citizen but being an EU citizen gives all the same rights as the British person except when running for election, all EU members are treated fair and get to do business like anyone so it can happen lakiin the question is why dont others want this.

greenday wrote:

Shirib wrote:Xamar has pretty much always been the largest city in Somalia

Even before dowladiihi hore?

greenday wrote:

Shirib wrote:Xamar has pretty much always been the largest city in Somalia

Even before dowladiihi hore?

RovingMadness wrote:

Perfect_Order wrote:

greenday wrote:PO, you know that the aid will be shared based on states so all the people who live in Muqdisho will benefit from the aid to banadir state while others dont have to share their aid, so its banadir state who will be at loss not the other way round.

Did you here him say only 15% of the tax is used by muqdisho So

He means only 15% go to the city maamul. But do you think that the other 85% goes to any other regions? The money the dowlad makes either goes to their pockets, to the armies, the xildhbans, but I don't hear dowlad giving money to aswj, to pro dowlad forces in other regions, or they are funding projects in other regions. So I would argue that the greater majority of the money goes to xamar directly or indirectly.

Abayoo look, Abgaal nor any other qabil did not build the port, nor the airport, nor the roads, nor make it the biggest markets and economic center in the south. Xamar is not Abgaal city, it is soomaali, and estabilishing a qabil based maamul there only alienates everyone else not protects the rights of abgaals. If it is one man one vote, then any group living there will have a say in the elections. Halkaas hala ku daayo.

By your logic, then since the ports, airports & roads of Barbera, Boosaaso & Kismaayo were built through the tax money of all Somalis, then they shouldn't become a Qabiil city. No clan built its own ports, airports or roads & hence applying one set of rules on Mogadishu & another set on all others is a declaration of war. It will not succeed.