Official 12-13 NBA Season Thread!

[Murax]

John Wall letting Himself, go looks like He's eating good in DC!

[Skippa]

The hater in me is enjoying the Lakers' struggles

[Murax]

KG Was wrong about Lala, she doesn't taste like Honey Nut Cheerios. She tastes more like Cinnemon Toast Crunch or Fruit Loops

[FAH1223]

The Wizards aren't the only thing John Wall has given up on.

Not worried. He'll get that off in about 2-3 weeks. He built up muscle over the summer and it just became fat while the team shut him down. He eats horribly (southern food) but whats disappointing is he could have been in the pool or the bike.

Look at this though:














Jeremy Lin and Chandler Parsons: The Best Bromance in the NBA : nba

[Skippa]

A loss for the purple & gold last night…They fought back but came up short…that's 5 in row now. …another L in the offing vs OKC on Friday ?

[Murax]

KNICKS, BIG GAME VS CHICAGO. PREDICT MVP PERFORMANCE FROM MELO

[FAH1223]

10-7 for the Wizards since Wall came back.

Beal is the real deal.

[Murax]

FAH,

I really like the Wizards team. Forget about their record, all these dumb analysts like Stephen A Smith and others who blast Brooklyn, NY for losing to them need to shut up. The Wizards were playing without the most fastest, and one of the best PG's in the league in Wall and were playing with trash like Shelvin Mack, AJ Price, Livingston at the point. Beal was also learning the game. Also don't forget they were playing without Nene who when healthy (almost never is) is probably one of the most talented bigs in the game. That pick and roll between He and Wall is butter. Stop hating on Gruwnald and give Him credit. Aside from the USELESS Vesley which was a horrible choice this team is good, and a playoff team if they were healthy.





As for My Knicks We have been exposed. We're soft and we got no D.

[FAH1223]

FAH,

I really like the Wizards team. Forget about their record, all these dumb analysts like Stephen A Smith and others who blast Brooklyn, NY for losing to them need to shut up. The Wizards were playing without the most fastest, and one of the best PG's in the league in Wall and were playing with trash like Shelvin Mack, AJ Price, Livingston at the point. Beal was also learning the game. Also don't forget they were playing without Nene who when healthy (almost never is) is probably one of the most talented bigs in the game. That pick and roll between He and Wall is butter. Stop hating on Gruwnald and give Him credit. Aside from the USELESS Vesley which was a horrible choice this team is good, and a playoff team if they were healthy.





As for My Knicks We have been exposed. We're soft and we got no D.

No. Grunfeld like you mentioned messed up the 2011 draft. He also messed up the 2009 draft with trading a top 5 pick for Miller/Foye. That is inexcusable and is a firable offense in sports management.

It is also Grunfeld's fault this team was historically bad in the first 2 months of the season going 4-28 without Wall and without Nene for 12 games.

To put in perspective, The 76ers have been without Bynum all season and are still in contention for the playoffs. Curry has missed several games and Bogut has missed almost all season and they're doing very well in the WEST. Dallas has been without Dirk nearly all year while relying on OJ freakin Mayo and a pair of 35 year old Vince Carter and Shawn Marion to lead them and they're still within striking distance. Even the Hornets and Cavs have better records and they've been without Gordon, Davis, Irving, and Varajeo for long stretched. Nearly all those players referenced are all stars or having all star type seasons when they have played and are just as good or bette than Wall, Beal, or Nene. Yet their teams are still performing better than the Wizards as whole this year.

Washington has no excuses for being historically bad when just one of their key guys is out for any period of time. Ernie didn't sign the right guy to play backup PG.

Seraphin also has regressed from where he was the last half of last season to an inefficient chucker who plays soft despite being one of the most bruising post defenders in the league. The player development department headed by Ed Tapscott (who as an interim coach before Flip after Jordan was fired) SUCKS. The young players do not develop in DC and that is a big problem moving forward.

[Jaidi]

FAH,

I really like the Wizards team. Forget about their record, all these dumb analysts like Stephen A Smith and others who blast Brooklyn, NY for losing to them need to shut up. The Wizards were playing without the most fastest, and one of the best PG's in the league in Wall and were playing with trash like Shelvin Mack, AJ Price, Livingston at the point. Beal was also learning the game. Also don't forget they were playing without Nene who when healthy (almost never is) is probably one of the most talented bigs in the game. That pick and roll between He and Wall is butter. Stop hating on Gruwnald and give Him credit. Aside from the USELESS Vesley which was a horrible choice this team is good, and a playoff team if they were healthy.





As for My Knicks We have been exposed. We're soft and we got no D.

We need to trade Shumpert for Dudley and a first round pick. Shump is overrated, provides nothing on offense, and won't be able to shut down Wade. Dudley is a good defender, can guard threes and will give us offensive production from that position. It will also mean we don't have to give Novak minutes anymore.

[Murax]

Jaidi,

Abslutely HORRIBLE trade! Dude, Dudly has reached His ceiling, He's not getting better He is what He is. He is a good shooter, who has slow feet on defense and basically replicates what We already have. Shumpert meanwhile is coming off the worst sports injury You can possibly have in a ACL. To put things in perspective Derrick Rose is not close to returning and He had the same injury. Shump is TWENTY TWO and You can have another decade of productivity. He's the one player that We will look at once this 2-3 year window ends, amare is gone and we start a new era. What We need is this:

A Reggie Evans, Kendric Perkins, Kenyon Martin etc. type dude who will bang down low, defend, be physical and grab boards. Amare is too soft, and is better playing PF in the 2nd unit not center.


A speedy, defensive backup PG that can defend and push the tempo. We might have to wait until the draft to address this need.

[Jaidi]

Murax,

Shump is overrated by Knick fans, even last year he showed little offensive potential. With his injury now he's limited on defense. We are built to win now and we have a very small window. We can't afford to wait on Shumpert, especially if he's playing at the 3. Also a Suns first rounder would be a high pick.

[Murax]

Murax,

Shump is overrated by Knick fans, even last year he showed little offensive potential. With his injury now he's limited on defense. We are built to win now and we have a very small window. We can't afford to wait on Shumpert, especially if he's playing at the 3. Also a Suns first rounder would be a high pick.

We don't need Shumpert for offense We need Him for defense. Like I said He is not all the way back now and my not be all this season. If He takes the rest of this year, takes the summer and comes back next year as the menacing ballhawk He was last year that will be fine. Offensively, He is a good ball handler, is lethal in transition and finished the last season knocking down '3s. He will never be a offensive juggernaut but can be a excellent two way player, who will cause havoc defensively and be a Jason Richardson type guy on offense. When Healthy this guy addresses a major need for the Knicks with His periemter defense. I don't think You saw the game last year Where He locked down Derrick Rose or picked Wade's pocket twice back to back. He's the best perimeter defender in the league outside of Avery Bradley when healthy.

[Jaidi]

Murax,

Shump is overrated by Knick fans, even last year he showed little offensive potential. With his injury now he's limited on defense. We are built to win now and we have a very small window. We can't afford to wait on Shumpert, especially if he's playing at the 3. Also a Suns first rounder would be a high pick.

We don't need Shumpert for offense We need Him for defense. Like I said He is not all the way back now and my not be all this season. If He takes the rest of this year, takes the summer and comes back next year as the menacing ballhawk He was last year that will be fine. Offensively, He is a good ball handler, is lethal in transition and finished the last season knocking down '3s. He will never be a offensive juggernaut but can be a excellent two way player, who will cause havoc defensively and be a Jason Richardson type guy on offense. When Healthy this guy addresses a major need for the Knicks with His periemter defense. I don't think You saw the game last year Where He locked down Derrick Rose or picked Wade's pocket twice back to back. He's the best perimeter defender in the league outside of Avery Bradley when healthy.

He is not better than Tony Allen( who is a free agent this summer). He did well on Rose but got killed by Wade those steals hid the story. Wade still scored at will. He has potential but the 3 is a huge hole on this team. Novak provides 0, there's literally games where he does nothing whatsoever and its becoming more often than not. With Amare coming off the bench we either start Shump at 3( where he's been getting bullied) or Copeland/White( scrubs). If we don't make a move that position will kill us.

[Murax]

Jaidi,

We are fine at 3 dude, don't forget our closing lineup is usually always Felton, JR, Melo, Amare, Chandler. Shumpert's D on the Wing, has been fine. He did a good job on Pierce, Prince and other '3s. Where he is struggling is guarding PG's because His lateral quickness is not there yet. Am I saying Shumpert should be untouchable? Hell no! What I am saying is if You are going to trade Him, trade Him for someone who has equal value as a long term prospect. If You're gonna trade Him for someone who is going to make You better now, it better be someone who can bring a big impact. If the team traded Him for say Derrick Favors or Katner I wouldn't maybe mind too much because those are physical, active bigs who provide a big need. But Jared Dudley? Reddick? Hell no! Even with the Phoinex draftpick I'm still not convinced. Remember, the draft is usually weak and most of the prospects don't end up developing quickly. Remember there was a time we were drafting and drafting with frye, lee, jordan hill, nate robinson, etc. and We never really won or got competitive. The Durants, Westbrooks, Hardens are few and far inbetween in the draft. Btw keep in mind the pick that phoinex would throw in was gonna be protected through the lottery.