ok, so everyone missed afdhere or what? :)

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LH

thats why those wussies lost the U.S. presidential election always tryin to be politically correct

abti i say what i feel and if it hurts som1 else's feelin, well its too damn bad

[LionHeart-112]

Political correctness is for sissies. Your beliefs should dicatate how you act and what you say.

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Afdheere="LionHeart-112

its not hard to act with just a little bit of self-restraint in "Ramadan"
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[LionHeart-112]

May Allah (swt) forgive you. I don't think the retarded are held accountable for their sins so i guess you are lucky since u will get away with your false accusations and lies you said about me.

[afdhere]

michael,

thanks, man. love the avitar very canadian of you lol.


xoogsade and lion,

it is not about political correctness. wtf is that anyway? the word is used by those who practice the somali saying: "farta iyo meesha bugtaa is og"

by the way, there are muslims who welcome queer muslims. they include the progressive muslim movement, the reform muslim movement as well as the liberal muslim movement. they are all muslims... who question the centuries old hatred of muslims... such as anti-semitism, homophobia, islamism, etc.

assuming you live in canada, lionheart, do you know tarek fateh? he is the president of "MCC"(muslim canadian congress) and the host of "muslim chronicle" on tv. he and his wife nargis wrote in the toronto star a wonderful article -- gasp ! -- supporting gay marriage. masha allah

i guess some people are civilized.. and others are just not meant to be. as allah said, they are "deaf, dumb and blind"

afdhere

[LionHeart-112]

Afdhere--No i dont live in Canada but i know for a fact that a true muslim would never support something that's against the Shari'ah. Gay marriage isn't even supported in other false religions...

Don't try to find loopholes in Islam allowing homosexuals. Trying to justify a sin can and does lead to Kufr. You might be gay or confused but be careful of stepping the line into kaafir-ness.

[LionHeart-112]

Afdhere--No i dont live in Canada but i know for a fact that a true muslim would never support something that's against the Shari'ah. Gay marriage isn't even supported in other false religions...

Don't try to find loopholes in Islam allowing homosexuality. Trying to justify a sin can and does lead to Kufr. You might be gay or confused but be careful of stepping the line into kaafir-ness.

[afdhere]

for a fact? wtf?

tarek and nargis:

http://www.muslimwakeup.com/main/archiv ... he_fus.php

that was republished in the mwu, a very popular muslim magazine.

afdhere

[afdhere]

as for muslims and homosexuality, see the "pmuna" (progressive muslims union of north america) statement of principles:


http://www.pmuna.org/archives/our_mission/index.php

4) We affirm the equal status and equal worth of all human beings, regardless of religion, gender, race, ethnicity, or sexual orientation. We oppose any restrictions on women's full participation in society and believe that separation and segregation of men and women is contrary to the equity among genders enshrined in the Quran. We endorse the human rights and liberties of lesbian, gay, bisexual and trans-sexual individuals. We believe that Muslim women and men, gay and straight, of all nationalities, ethnicities, and races should work together, shoulder-to-shoulder, in their effort to rejuvenate our community.


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uhm, masha allah

so do you really think queer muslims care what your qaxooti ass thinks?


afdhere

[LionHeart-112]

Afhdere---Every1 is entitled to their opinion. Ayan Hirsi, after what she said about Islam, still claims to be a muslim. Does that make her a muslim? I'm not saying that person doesn't believe that but they are sadly mistaken if they think thre is a room for gay marriage in islam or any decent religion.

can i ask you if u are a practicing muslim?

[afdhere]

lion,

the pmuna is not a "person" it is an organzation with lots and lots of muslims. their juma'ah prayer led by a woman... made international headlines because of the hundreds of people who came to pray behind her

i'm fucccking fasting. is that practising enough?

afdhere

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PLZ stop answering to your self.
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[afdhere]

uhm, and i almost forgot. one of the board members of pmuna is a gay imam masha allah. and mcc's secretary is queer muslim lawyer

afdhere

[LionHeart-112]

Afhdere...u are also cursing. That's not much of a fasting..U know exactly what i meant by that question. Are you a mosque attending individual that prays 5 times a day and believes in the entire Qur'an and hadith, or those isolated people that pick and choose whatever they want from Islam.

Women can't lead prayers. Those people aren't following the true sunnah of the Prophet (scw), war kale ma ii heysaa?

[afdhere]

lion,

now you are talking like a stuppid sheikh in the desert

did you not know that ayesha led wars, led juma'ah prayers and even hunted for men? do you know that in the muslim world... there were periods ruled by women only? even your freaking people... were ruled by women for centuries.

who the fuccck gives you the right to say they were not following the right islamic path? so, as far as you are concerned, the sufis... the shi'iah... the ahmadiyya... etc... are all not muslim?

lets talk about the four sunni madhabs.

know anything about hanafi? well, under this madhab... women can do just about anything man can do.

i can swear... because you deserve to be sweared at. you are like that "mindi saawira" tale


afdhere