Why are Somali men so effeminate?

[XimanJaale]

I did some voluntary work in schools/colleges a few years.there were one or two camp somalis, probably a few more than 15 years.that said, somali boys in general had a stereotype of being, loud, aggressive.my only problem is that we generalising and using outdated labels to define masculinity. The geeljire might see see me as soft; the thug on the street might see reading books as a feminine activity, and so forth.some research a while back showed that some african carribean boys in the uk associated doing well at school with homosexuality.war dadkani waw imtixaan.

Again, indeed different culture's have different views on masculinity and effeminate traits. I never denied this. However there are things that are oblivious to the eyes, that humanity in general share same views for.

[Rambie]

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[Phinks]

I've been saying this to no avail wallahi and I'll keep saying it till the day I die. Somali men are the most, if not one of, dumbest, ignorant, buffoonish men on the face of the planet. A tribe of dysfunctional monkeys. They refuse to take any responsibility, the divorce rate is astronomically high, the youth are unemployed and most are in gangs. It's our "culture" to chew Khat and don't even get me started with the whole female FGM thing. Our grandfathers and fathers generation have backstabbed us and continue to do so today. With the way things are now, I'm honestly surprised most Somali girls haven't skipped out yet. Some have, but most still stay. Your women are still loyal and the only thing they want is for you to step up and be men and you still can't even manage that? Subxaanallah.

Forgetting Somali women themselves, what can these faggots offer to ajanabi women? We have no finances, no class, no social standing, no soft power or influence whatsoever. And these retards get surprised why more Somali women are marrying foreigners? You have more things to worry about and take care of you f-king savages!

A bunch of effeminate bitches. Ufff.

[Gaashaanle1000]

I've been saying this to no avail wallahi and I'll keep saying it till the day I die. Somali men are the most, if not one of, dumbest, ignorant, buffoonish men on the face of the planet. A tribe of dysfunctional monkeys. They refuse to take any responsibility, the divorce rate is astronomically high, the youth are unemployed and most are in gangs. It's our "culture" to chew Khat and don't even get me started with the whole female FGM thing. Our grandfathers and fathers generation have backstabbed us and continue to do so today. With the way things are now, I'm honestly surprised most Somali girls haven't skipped out yet. Some have, but most still stay. Your women are still loyal and the only thing they want is for you to step up and be men and you still can't even manage that? Subxaanallah.

Forgetting Somali women themselves, what can these faggots offer to ajanabi women? We have no finances, no class, no social standing, no soft power or influence whatsoever. And these retards get surprised why more Somali women are marrying foreigners? You have more things to worry about and take care of you f-king savages!

A bunch of effeminate bitches. Ufff.

You have serious issues my friend, introspection is the way forward

Ramadan is here, look into yourself rather than worrying about other people!

[Phinks]

I've been saying this to no avail wallahi and I'll keep saying it till the day I die. Somali men are the most, if not one of, dumbest, ignorant, buffoonish men on the face of the planet. A tribe of dysfunctional monkeys. They refuse to take any responsibility, the divorce rate is astronomically high, the youth are unemployed and most are in gangs. It's our "culture" to chew Khat and don't even get me started with the whole female FGM thing. Our grandfathers and fathers generation have backstabbed us and continue to do so today. With the way things are now, I'm honestly surprised most Somali girls haven't skipped out yet. Some have, but most still stay. Your women are still loyal and the only thing they want is for you to step up and be men and you still can't even manage that? Subxaanallah.

Forgetting Somali women themselves, what can these faggots offer to ajanabi women? We have no finances, no class, no social standing, no soft power or influence whatsoever. And these retards get surprised why more Somali women are marrying foreigners? You have more things to worry about and take care of you f-king savages!

A bunch of effeminate bitches. Ufff.

You have serious issues my friend, introspection is the way forward

Ramadan is here, look into yourself rather than worrying about other people!

I was not expecting this from you of all people sxb.

Just because I criticise the sad state of the Somali man and the stark reality we live in, you imply I have the problems? In no way in any shape or form does this detract any merit from my views. I can be proud to be Somali, a true patriot and still criticise my brothers.

I mean seriously, instead of actually addressing this you want me to push things under the rug? If your brother was doing doing hard drugs, commiting zina and that balaayo nonsense wouldn't you criticise him?

It's called tough love sxb.

[Phinks]

Wuu amusay

[Sauron]

The self hate is real with this one lol.

[Gaashaanle1000]

I was not expecting this from you of all people sxb.

Just because I criticise the sad state of the Somali man and the stark reality we live in, you imply I have the problems? In no way in any shape or form does this detract any merit from my views. I can be proud to be Somali, a true patriot and still criticise my brothers.

I mean seriously, instead of actually addressing this you want me to push things under the rug? If your brother was doing doing hard drugs, commiting zina and that balaayo nonsense wouldn't you criticise him?

It's called tough love sxb.

I'm just not big on generalisations.

But I know what you mean, however tough love never works on people after a certain point. We as young men and women need to bring up our children better than our fathers and mothers. I do have family members who are not succeeding in material life, but what I find funny is that often times they are actually better human beings than the so called peeps in my family who are succeeding from peoples perspective. The later tend to be extremely selfish and backstabbing, whereas these guys are often times genuine and even humble despite all of their problems.

Cultural issues like Qaad and FGM need education, and there are many who are working towards making improvements. Many families no longer practice FGM and there are activists who campaign against drugs like QAAT, people like Abukar Awale. Basically what I am saying is to make a change we need a positive, resilient can do way of thinking rather than wallowing on our problems, insulting others and calling it "tough love". I see that this is something that you have a lot of feelings towards, but my criticism was not in anyway meant to offend but to just offer an alternative. Cheers sxb

[Phinks]

I was not expecting this from you of all people sxb.

Just because I criticise the sad state of the Somali man and the stark reality we live in, you imply I have the problems? In no way in any shape or form does this detract any merit from my views. I can be proud to be Somali, a true patriot and still criticise my brothers.

I mean seriously, instead of actually addressing this you want me to push things under the rug? If your brother was doing doing hard drugs, commiting zina and that balaayo nonsense wouldn't you criticise him?

It's called tough love sxb.

I'm just not big on generalisations.

But I know what you mean, however tough love never works on people after a certain point. We as young men and women need to bring up our children better than our fathers and mothers. I do have family members who are not succeeding in material life, but what I find funny is that often times they are actually better human beings than the so called peeps in my family who are succeeding from peoples perspective. The former tend to be extremely selfish and backstabbing, whereas these guys are often times genuine and even humble despite all of their problems.

Cultural issues like Qaad and FGM need education, and there are many who are working towards making improvements. Many families no longer practice FGM and there are activists who campaign against drugs like QAAT, people like Abukar Awale. Basically what I am saying is to make a change we need a positive, resilient can do way of thinking rather than wallowing on our problems, insulting others and calling it "tough love". I see that this is something that you have a lot of feelings towards, but my criticism was not in anyway meant to offend but to just offer an alternative. Cheers sxb

I admit I can be crass sometimes, but I guess it's just this feeling of hopelessness that prevails over me when I see Somali men do stupid shit like making that west African male marrying some xalimo bimbo thread that had all these faggots hyperventilating. We have more urgent problems to attend to and deal with than worry about who some broad decides to marry.

I can see where your coming from though. But I think there should be a balance. You can still have good qalbii and provide for the family and be successful at the same time. I've noticed many Somalis tend to bring that point up for some reason though.

All I want is greatness for my people, yet everyone just ignores me as if these issues don't exist or just do some stupid shit like honing in on some irrelevant bullshit on my posts whilst my points go completely flying over their heads. The reason why I generalise is because waa ruunta. the vast majority of us are pretty much screwed, whether we can overcome this, only Allah knows.

I can still love my people and be a patriot while criticising them to be better overall human beings. It's my right and duty to do so.

[Phinks]

The self hate is real with this one lol.

Lol, typical ape. Instead of addressing my points, he dismisses them by claiming I'm a self hater.

Criticising your people to help them and raise awareness of issues =/= hating yourself you dumbass.

How do people think like this?!

[Sauron]

The self hate is real with this one lol.

Lol, typical ape. Instead of addressing my points, he dismisses them by claiming I'm a self hater.

Criticising your people to help them and raise awareness of issues =/= hating yourself you dumbass.

How do people think like this?!

I was referring to the thread as a whole.

you come across as an emotional figure, better keep it in check. nacasnimada yaa laga dareemin

[Phinks]

Again, he calls me an emotional figure and says what I'm saying is nacasniimo instead of deconstructing what I'm saying. I called it.

I was referring to the thread as a whole.

The self hate is real with this one lol.

Sure, and I'm the queen of England.

[Sauron]

listen lil bitch, if I wanted to address you I would've quoted you.

now kindly go kill yourself.

[Raganimo]

I've been saying this to no avail wallahi and I'll keep saying it till the day I die. Somali men are the most, if not one of, dumbest, ignorant, buffoonish men on the face of the planet. A tribe of dysfunctional monkeys. They refuse to take any responsibility, the divorce rate is astronomically high, the youth are unemployed and most are in gangs. It's our "culture" to chew Khat and don't even get me started with the whole female FGM thing. Our grandfathers and fathers generation have backstabbed us and continue to do so today. With the way things are now, I'm honestly surprised most Somali girls haven't skipped out yet. Some have, but most still stay. Your women are still loyal and the only thing they want is for you to step up and be men and you still can't even manage that? Subxaanallah.

Forgetting Somali women themselves, what can these faggots offer to ajanabi women? We have no finances, no class, no social standing, no soft power or influence whatsoever. And these retards get surprised why more Somali women are marrying foreigners? You have more things to worry about and take care of you f-king savages!

A bunch of effeminate bitches. Ufff.

Don't exaggerate. As a group, we have our own vices and shortcomings like every other group, but to paint us all with the same brush is just ignorant.

The diaspora in the West is relatively recent and is a mixed bag of ignorant reer baadiye and educated people. Most of us are first generation refugees. Stop comparing us to people who have been here for 3-4 generations and who came here strictly for education/work.

Somali men in Africa and the Gulf are far more superior and are known for being good businessmen, so this negative stigma is exclusive to western Somalis.

Wallahi the self-hate in some of you people is just pathetic. Instead of being constructive and inspiring the youth to do better, you basically shyt on them and degrade them in public (this is a public forum, xooloyahow). These kids are demoralised enough as it is and they lack direction. Throwing them all under the bus is counterproductive.

[MayDay777]

Maxaad waxaan ufurtey rambie? Let the dead threads r.i.p and move on