Qabil Lives Matter (War Dadkani Waa Imtixaan)

[Sophisticate]

Kaafiye and Noble according to their logic by extension I'm a racist too because I believe in Somali first, tribe second. Why has it become ok to degrade other Somalis that have more in common with you but to find it sacrilegious to discuss a subject like the reconstitution of Somali borders and potential demographic shifts in the next 50 years. We're seen as paranoid, when we're really Nostradamus-like. I read a poignant article that discussed this very subject about mass migration from Ethiopia-to-Somalia and Kenya-to-Somalia in the foreseeable future (given the fact that Somalia is sparsely populated), and how borders of nation states are becoming even more porous. I remember the author suggesting some propaganda about how this would contribute to an intellectual renaissances and economic revival, what hogwash. Ethiopia is poor and doesn't care for its people. Kenya is corrupt and dictated by foreigners. And Somalia at present is both, I don't see an expanding of intellectual horizons at all coming from this, more like a stunting. We have puppet politicians with no vision, ducking for cover from some ragtag band of self-detonators, while AMISOM have a nice meal, good salary and a place to sleep on the public purse (meanwhile remaining rather safe as poorly compensated Somalis die on the front lines in the fight against Alshabab). All I see is trouble if beesha Meles and beesha Kenyatti overtake the habars, d-block, h-block and dir. They have greater military power and cohesion, hence we could witness a hotel Rwanda of immense proportions, if they have their way. Kenya is less than smart, I assume Ethiopia would probably be a mastermind of such an operation, pulling strings in the background.

On the list of issues Somalia must tackle this is so far down the list, it's laughable.

It's racist, or at least xenophobic, because the exaggeration of the issue begs the question "why are you irrationally concerned with poor, economic migrants?"


"Oh, they're gonna create a 5th Column and act as agents for foreign State interests!"



Okay, Nostradamus.

Wouldn't be snet without seismic-level exaggerations. Enjoy the show. It's also human nature to assign blame to dissimilar others, as opposed to working through one's own dysfunction, ma gartay. There is no culpability for one's actions. And there is a bonding ritual over the vilification of the other, made easier by creating personal distance. This is used as a form of escapism to distract people from their 'real' problems. The one doing the distancing rationalizes that the other would do the same or worse, if they are put in their shoes.
It's a shame. However, the world is about power plays and less about appeals to morality and stuff. Imbalances in power between people exist and aren't going to change any time soon. I should also add that in times of scarcity, people aren't the most hospitable to foreigners. However, things are fine and dandy when there is plenty. This is the case everywhere.

I should add that, every joker needs a batman, every batman needs a joker.

[zumaale]

Unless Bantus get access to Teknikos, heavy arms and receive the patronage of a foreign power they pose no threat whatsoever to Skinnies that are already fighting for every scrap of bread.

Qurbakoor Somalis and their fear mongering, one would think they attended a Nazification course.

Today over a million, in a couple of decades there will be over ten million of them in Somalia.

Bantu villages in South Somalia have the highest fertility rates known to man.

Itrah, in a couple of decades your brood will be safely settled in Australia and will probably enhance their gene pool by going native (Non Aboriginals) whilst Puntland becomes the next Oman. So why worry?

Niggas cannot swim to Australia so you have chosen the best place to emigrate too.

I have got my eye on Greenland. Global warming will make it the new Med and it is also going to get stinking rich from the undiscovered oil around the Arctic Circle. You will be more than welcome to visit me and my humble Inuit/Haplogroup T family

[SaciidAyanleh]

Wouldn't be snet without seismic-level exaggerations. Enjoy the show. It's also human nature to assign blame to dissimilar others, as opposed to working through one's own dysfunction, ma gartay. There is no culpability for one's actions. And there is a bonding ritual over the vilification of the other, made easier by creating personal distance. This is used as a form of escapism to distract people from their 'real' problems. The one doing the distancing rationalizes that the other would do the same or worse, if they are put in their shoes.
It's a shame. However, the world is about power plays and less about appeals to morality and stuff. Imbalances in power between people exist and aren't going to change any time soon. I should also add that in times of scarcity, people aren't the most hospitable to foreigners. However, things are fine and dandy when there is plenty. This is the case everywhere.

I should add that, every joker needs a batman, every batman needs a joker.

Yeah? Thank you for that lesson

Is there a reason why you shy away from clear/direct speech?

[saacJabshee]

Somalia is fucked. It will become just another Bantu country.

While all these stupid Cushitic Somalis were fighting each other or migrating to the West, the Bantus kept breeding like rodents and slowly displacing Somalis in many areas of the South.

If you look at news reports from riverine places in Somalia, all you will see are Bantu faces. Barely any Somalis in sight. Mogadishu is also slowly becoming more and more Bantu.

Would you say the same about the barwani, shanshi, asharaf and all the other reer xamar cad cad? people always going on about bantus when there are other non somali amongst us. Bantus get unnecessary hate imo and the hate seems to be directed at them more than the rest.

[Kaafiye]

Somalia is fucked. It will become just another Bantu country.

While all these stupid Cushitic Somalis were fighting each other or migrating to the West, the Bantus kept breeding like rodents and slowly displacing Somalis in many areas of the South.

If you look at news reports from riverine places in Somalia, all you will see are Bantu faces. Barely any Somalis in sight. Mogadishu is also slowly becoming more and more Bantu.

Would you say the same about the barwani, shanshi, asharaf and all the other reer xamar cad cad? people always going on about bantus when there are other non somali amongst us. Bantus get unnecessary hate imo and the hate seems to be directed at them more than the rest.

This is only because their population is multiplying at an alarming rate and that they're emigrating to parts of Somalia such as Mudug, Bari, and other provinces in mass numbers. The sheer size of their population is the concern here. If they remained as small in number as other ethnic groups then I doubt anyone would have a problem with them.

[Sophisticate]

Yeah? Thank you for that lesson

Is there a reason why you shy away from clear/direct speech?

I Am Canadian.

[MoAwr]

I am for separation of qabil n geel! Geel should roam freely with out qabil shaanbad and caano geel should be clan free flavour

[SaciidAyanleh]

Yeah? Thank you for that lesson

Is there a reason why you shy away from clear/direct speech?

I Am Canadian.

Don't encourage Kaafiye. SonOfANomad is at least probably a troll, whereas Kaafiye is a rare breed of hatred, arrogance and absolutism.

[Alpharabius]

This thread reminds me of this song just change "white" to "Somali"

[TheGrumpyGeeljire]

This thread reminds me of this song just change "white" to "Somali"

[iandi]

Oh without a doubt that song is apropos. In fact from where i stand skin heads and other nazi types and some somalis are cut from the same cloth and would be allies....except for the fact that nazis would never allow it....but they absolutely have similer view of black people...not all somalis...maybe not most.....but many.

[Kaafiye]

Oh without a doubt that song is apropos. In fact from where i stand skin heads and other nazi types and some somalis are cut from the same cloth and would be allies....except for the fact that nazis would never allow it....but they absolutely have similer view of black people...not all somalis...maybe not most.....but many.

Can you tell me where we said on this thread that we look down on Blacks? No one's talking about that, and I really don't think that. So stop with the nonsense.

[SomaliWarSavage]

Oh without a doubt that song is apropos. In fact from where i stand skin heads and other nazi types and some somalis are cut from the same cloth and would be allies....except for the fact that nazis would never allow it....but they absolutely have similer view of black people...not all somalis...maybe not most.....but many.

stop exaggerating man.

[Oneshot]

Lol you so funny. I wish if this is worth it to be obsessed. the only thing I would discriminate would be what is matters, religion and culture. Somali culture is sucks.

You have so much in common with Saudis than you think examples, if woman marries not citizen she looses her citizen....lol wa qurun.

Arabs always have been racist for hundreds of years, it not new:

“Blacks are by their very nature slaves.”

Ibn Sina (1037)

“Of the neighbors of the Bujja, Maqdisi had heard that “there is no marriage among them; the child does not know his father, and they eat people — but God knows best. As for the Zanj, they are people of black color, flat noses, kinky hair, and little understanding or intelligence.”

Al-Muqaddasi (945/946-1000)

“merriment dominates the black man because of his defective brain, whence also the weakness of his intelligence.”

Al-Masudi (896-956)

“Therefore, the Negro nation are, as a rule, submissive to slavery, because [Negroes] have little [that is essentially] human and have attributes that are quite similar to those of dumb animals, as we have stated.”

“beyond [known peoples of black West Africa] to the south there is no civilization in the proper sense. There are only humans who are closer to dumb animals than to rational beings. They live in thickets and caves, and eat herbs and unprepared grain. They frequently eat each other. They cannot be considered human beings.”

Ibn Khaldun (1332–1406)

"We know that the Zanj (blacks) are the least intelligent and the least discerning of mankind, and the least capable of understanding the consequences of actions."

Jahiz, Kitab al-Bukhala (The Book of Misers) (869)

“If (all types of men) are taken, from the first, and one placed after another, like the Negro from Zanzibar, in the Southern-most countries, the Negro does not differ from an animal in anything except the fact that his hands have been lifted from the earth -in no other peculiarity or property – except for what God wished. Many have seen that the ape is more capable of being trained than the Negro, and more intelligent.”

Ibn Khaldun (1332–1406)

strange that whenever Somalis post these qoutes they live out what Arab scholars said about Northern Europeans,

Said al-Andalusiin the 1000s:
[qoute] For those who live furthest north … their humors [are] raw, their bellies gross, their color pale, their hair long and lank. Thus they lack keenness of understanding and clarity of intelligence, and are overcome by ignorance and dullness, lack of discernment, and stupidity.[/qoute]

[Oneshot]

Lol you so funny. I wish if this is worth it to be obsessed. the only thing I would discriminate would be what is matters, religion and culture. Somali culture is sucks.

You have so much in common with Saudis than you think examples, if woman marries not citizen she looses her citizen....lol wa qurun.

Arabs always have been racist for hundreds of years, it not new:

“Blacks are by their very nature slaves.”

Ibn Sina (1037)

“Of the neighbors of the Bujja, Maqdisi had heard that “there is no marriage among them; the child does not know his father, and they eat people — but God knows best. As for the Zanj, they are people of black color, flat noses, kinky hair, and little understanding or intelligence.”

Al-Muqaddasi (945/946-1000)

“merriment dominates the black man because of his defective brain, whence also the weakness of his intelligence.”

Al-Masudi (896-956)

“Therefore, the Negro nation are, as a rule, submissive to slavery, because [Negroes] have little [that is essentially] human and have attributes that are quite similar to those of dumb animals, as we have stated.”

“beyond [known peoples of black West Africa] to the south there is no civilization in the proper sense. There are only humans who are closer to dumb animals than to rational beings. They live in thickets and caves, and eat herbs and unprepared grain. They frequently eat each other. They cannot be considered human beings.”

Ibn Khaldun (1332–1406)

"We know that the Zanj (blacks) are the least intelligent and the least discerning of mankind, and the least capable of understanding the consequences of actions."

Jahiz, Kitab al-Bukhala (The Book of Misers) (869)

“If (all types of men) are taken, from the first, and one placed after another, like the Negro from Zanzibar, in the Southern-most countries, the Negro does not differ from an animal in anything except the fact that his hands have been lifted from the earth -in no other peculiarity or property – except for what God wished. Many have seen that the ape is more capable of being trained than the Negro, and more intelligent.”

Ibn Khaldun (1332–1406)

Like modern writings, you find diverse scholarship from history.

"Everybody agrees that there isno people on earth in whom generosity is as universally well developed as the Zanj. These people have a natural talent for dancing to the rhythm of the tambourine, without needing to learn it. There are no better singers anywhere in the world, no people more polished and eloquent, and no people less given to insulting language. No other nation can surpass them in bodily strength and physical toughness. One of them will lift huge blocks and carry heavy loads that would be beyond the strength of most Bedouins or members of other races. They are courageous, energetic, and generous, which are the virtues of nobility, and also good-tempered and with little propensity to evil. They are always cheerful, smiling, and devoid of malice, which is a sign of noble character.

- Al-Jahiz, Risalat mufakharat al-sudan 'ala al-bidan (Treatise on the Superiority Of The Blacks To The Whites)