The existential threat posed by the Abu Hebel and Umu Heblaayo society to Somalinimo.'

[gegiroor]

Ok guys you won me over, I am now convinced the khamiis is unislaamic and is only for the Arabs as even many non muslim Arabs were the khamiis too. And I think it will be fair to say that suits and ties, trousers, shirts, t-shirt jackets, jeans, trainers/snickers, truck suits, underwear, socks, macawiis and sarongs too are unislaamic as much as the khamiis that is to say they are not traditional Islaamic clothings and definitely are not Somali clothing.
So as Muslim who happens to be born a Somali, I am left with the labada go' being traditionally Somali and Islaamic as the only option and we all know how impractical it is to wear it in this day and age (if you can pull it off good on ya) so this option too is out due to practicality issue.
So I ask you guys LiquidHYDROGEN and Co
What should I wear that will be considered Islaamic and yet Show my Somaliniimo roots too? Just a reminder if we have ruled the khamiis traditionally unislaamic, the three pieces suits or jeans have no chance.
Your recommendations will be appreciated

LoDoon is proving to be a legend

[TheFuturist]

^^ No he's not The khamis is a-islamic, just as the suit and jacket and trousers are a-islamic, wich is the whole point. You don't need to wear a khamis to be a good muslim.

There's bigger things here than clothes...
Again, life is short, I'm not an extremist or xenophobic, I just don't want 1st generation of all Somalis marrying non-Somalis. On top of that we're vulnerable as a people. Not a lot of us, our life expectancy is short, and now ever Xalimo and faraax want to marry out.

Im glad we have sensible sisters like Veiledgarbasr & Cherine out there

[gegiroor]

Jalaaludin either you're paranoid, or your love for Arab clothing is clouding your judgement. Wtf is this 'ujeedada gaar ah'.

And how can you suggest that wearing Arab dress isnt important?! These are the very people that some amongst us seek to behave like. It is what they want: to emulate their behaviour, their way of talking, their dress, to mirror their society whilst turning a bad eye to their flaws. If Khamiiska is as you say a symbol of the Arabian Gulf, it is also a symbol of of oppression of the poor/weak, of extremism, of excessive extravagance, of misogyny and of racism. You are a Somali, why should you wish to emulate another culture/society/people?

I am not nostalic of the past. If anything i'm trying to preserve the little good that we have going for us, I don't want the current GOOD aspects of our culture and our beautiful manner of practising the religion to be submerged under a regime of Gulf-Arabism and Wahabism.

I am all for preserving our culture.

And as for some of us wanting to behave like Arab.....? And if wearing a khamis in your eyes equate to arabwannabe then so be it. I rather see that than young faraxs wearing their pants low, emulating AA/Caribbean and gangbanging.

As far as am concern there is absolutely nothing wrong with trying to identify with wider muslim world than plant seeds of hatred and animosity over something as harmless and beautiful as our Islamic garms.

What you guys need to understand is that the delicate balance that existed in the past between Islam and our culture and way of doing things is over. There is no turning back the clock so it makes no sense attacking Somalis who want to wear their Islamic garmz to display their faith. Even if that wasn't the intention the aggressive way of your approach and condescending....'we have the cure to somali problems' manner need to be evaluated.

I mean look at us.
You are Somali and muslim but here we are.
I say yey you say ney.
But I ain't trying to attack the way your dress yet here you are stubbing away at something so sacred the khamis.

How can we even agree on anything if you think you can change forcibly something that is attached to our faith, physical and spiritually.

How about you take the time to accommodate the khamis wearing the same way you accomodate the macawis wearing Somali in the name of all things precious and worth preserving. ?

For a Somali who want to preserve what's left of our culture you sure are a novice when it comes grabbing the attention of your intended audiences (somali).

Its not only your culture it's also ours. So unless you think you are more of a Somali than the khamis wearing blessed masses, tone down a notch sxb.

Ps....Sleaking of somali.....qolomaad tahay
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[TheLoFather]

Lodoon

Am not promoting wearing Somali traditional cloths in the west, you are intentionally are derailing the topic, my objection is the foreign influence of Arabs and Afghanis that is promoted by the mullahs and their groupies.

But you are in cahoot with the foreign influence of Irish and Danish promoted by the missionaries and their groupies... Right?

Kid if that makes you sleep at night better yes am an fbi agent, also a Zionist and a missionary working for the Roman Catholic mission at berbera and the date is 1899 .

Wow... Thanks Naanygoat, I have just learnt something from you: derailment tactic 101, derailing discussions using personal attacks, brilliant it lacks any sort of conceivable class maturity and humility and goes straight to smug viciousness all the while it batrays you like you enjoys being hurt and discriminated against and believing that those you are encountering avoid these sorts of debates and confrontations because it’s such a painful and unpleasant experience.

If I had not learned this from you I would have probably over come with emotions and said the following "who f*** you calling kid, NaanyGoat I am old enough legally to marry your mother and ayeeyo too and my (the "kid" offsprings can potentially become your biological half brothers or uncles..." or some shit like but thanks to you NaanyGoat, I am the wiser.

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Ok guys you won me over, I am now convinced the khamiis is unislaamic and is only for the Arabs as even many non muslim Arabs were the khamiis too. And I think it will be fair to say that suits and ties, trousers, shirts, t-shirt jackets, jeans, trainers/snickers, truck suits, underwear, socks, macawiis and sarongs too are unislaamic as much as the khamiis that is to say they are not traditional Islaamic clothings and definitely are not Somali clothing.
So as Muslim who happens to be born a Somali, I am left with the labada go' being traditionally Somali and Islaamic as the only option and we all know how impractical it is to wear it in this day and age (if you can pull it off good on ya) so this option too is out due to practicality issue.
So I ask you guys LiquidHYDROGEN and Co
What should I wear that will be considered Islaamic and yet Show my Somaliniimo roots too? Just a reminder if we have ruled the khamiis traditionally unislaamic, the three pieces suits or jeans have no chance.
Your recommendations will be appreciated

Walaal, do you have... like...reading comprehension problems? Like, seriously I'm not even trying to insult you. It's a genuine question. How hard is it to grasp a simple concept? I didn't say the khamiiz was unislamic. I said wearing the khamiiz doesn't make you any better as a muslim. Wearing arab clothes or pakistani clothes is not sunnah or fard. It doesn't increase your imaan.

Islamic clothing is defined as clothing that is modest and in line with the shariah e.g. covering your legs, cawrah, trousers not passing your ankles etc. This is very basic level stuff. We are not discussing particle physics or nuclear engineering.

[TheFuturist]

As far as am concern there is absolutely nothing wrong with trying to identify with wider muslim world than plant seeds of hatred and animosity over something as harmless and beautiful as our Islamic garms....

There is no turning back the clock so it makes no sense attacking Somalis who want to wear their Islamic garmz to display their faith.

I agree there is nothing wrong with identifying with muslims. But wearing a khamis specifically is not wholly harmless, it erodes Somali culturem and it (the khamis) is a symbol of of oppression of the poor/weak, of extremism, of excessive extravagance, of misogyny, of racism, of self-righteousness. If you meet a Somali in a khamis, you should know they are someone who has handed their mind and soul over to their arab masters, subhanalah how sad is it someone who is trying to get closer to and seeks to invoke the pleasure of Allah through imitation of Arabs & their clothing.

Even if that wasn't the intention the aggressive way of your approach and condescending....

Sometimes the stick is necessary, especially if the brainwashing is severe as it is in your case, then it necessary to beat the submission to arabism out of the cabiid

[TheLoFather]

LH, I appreciate you showing restraint and just apparently stopping just short off insulting me, walaal have you forgotten we Somalis we were insults from follow Somalis like badges of honour.
Sxb bal ii sheeg if the khamiis is not unislaamic and is not against islaam then what is the problem if a Somali chooses to wear it is not danbi? It just a clothing just a piece of cloth why should a piece of cloth cause you so much aggro?

[TheFuturist]

Walahi I laughed so hard I woke the whole neighbourhood up

Somalis in this forum are in denial. They probably haven't experienced life too much. The bootyclappery is real out there.

[COOL-MAN]

Subxaanallah they never get tired of their repetitive nonsense. Same old munafiqeen on it year in year out. They change names but never change substance. It's the same old shit! And they stink. For those of us who have been here long enough, the smell of their stench catches us before they even open their mouth. Naclatullah Cala munafiquun.

[jalaaludin5]

Chinese Muslim brothers and proud members of the blessed-khamiis-wearers.


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[TheLoFather]

Chinese Muslim brothers and proud members of the blessed-khamiis-wearers.


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MAASHAAA ALLLAAAAH

[Hyperactive]

i just do not understand, what bothering, if others dress as they please, as long not against modest?

[Cherine]

Chinese Muslim brothers and proud members of the blessed-khamiis-wearers.


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MashAllah for them being Muslims. What were you doing on zawaj.com? Were you looking for chinese bride?

[jalaaludin5]

i just do not understand, what bothering, if others dress as they please, as long not against modest?

" Mind you do not slip, for the road behind and ahead is wet with blood. Man-robbers are now more numerous than gold-robbers. If they are intent of robbing people of reason and awareness, what then will they make of him who is unaware of himself?"

Rumi

[Hyperactive]

awoowe, that not explanation.

ps; my mom is "umrauf" any one have problem with? loool