Reverts discussing Somali girls

[MayDay777]

Raganimo you need to stop giving a fuck about these hoes

I'm trying to make sense of all this. How on earth can you sit and spew such vile vitriol against your own people???

I need to become desensitised to this crap man.. Honestly it makes my blood boil. Wallahi I would have pimp-smacked some of these people if they said what they said in front of me.

Notice how people more or less accepted the nasty things that were being said about us? There were even Somali guys (all a bunch of dabadhilif except for one who got banned - how ironic), who sat through that crap and still kept kissing up to the other forumites.

I grew up amongst Carabta and I know exactly which buttons to push for each nationality so they can never talk crap in front of me. But what got me was the Somali women who had zero xishood, honour, self-respect or dignity.

Screw this, I'm going back home or to the Gulf ASAP. At least the communities there aren't this confused and pathetic.

You'll get desensitized soon enough sxb I did

[Raganimo]

Sadly this is true. the reason why somali guys are so bitter towards xaliimos marrying out is ajanabi men of every race are way more attracted to xaliimos than ajanabi women to faaraxs. Usually somali guys can get only fat white whales or ugly dark skin black women who are fascinated with somali hair although xaliimos too can only get low quality ajanabi guys. Add to this weak patriarchal culture and self-hating loose females and you can see why somali females are so easy to get by ajanabi guys. Modern day somali guys are equivalent to effeminate indian guys without honor killing culture. 21st century somali people are taking L's left and right. We should fix our country ASAP. There's no other way to regain our dignity.

Speak for yourself dude. Me and my brothers have never had problems with women of any race, cadaan, Arab or otherwise. My younger brother in particular has foreign women who practically throw themselves at him - wallahi not even exaggerating. Fine ass Iranians, Kurds, Arabs, even Christian Assyrians who usually despise Muslims lol. I am trying to get this nigga to give up that ish since the families are probably racist.

I do agree though that Somalis generally have a negative stigma associated with us even when it comes to looks. They would tell us that we were "different", thinking that that ish was a compliment lol. My brother recently told me how tired he was of hearing that from these middle-eastern chicks. Even our foreign friends keep saying that we are not like the rest. They think very lowly of Somalis.

This nigga Barkhad messed the game up for us sxb'yaal.. they think we all Barkhads

[grandpakhalif]

These are only problems Somalis face in qurbaha, why not just go back home and marry a dime who loves both her deen and culture, that is what I did!

[xaliye123]

Wixii is guursan iyo wixii is fuuliba laydinma dirsan e ninwalowba taada ka adkow oo danahaaga ku foof.
Maxaa idinka galay gabadhii ninkale oon somali ahayn gursata? Shekadii carabta hanoola imanina iyo inaan noqono waardiye cambar.

[Xanuunku]

It was a painful read but everything Phink said is a reality. A lot of the failings of Somali men and women can all be traced back to the culture and Somalia.

However, Phink’s criticism is too harsh without context but I understand his frustration. When it comes to Somali males, let me explain something. This buck tooth, protruding forehead and feminine body is a result of poor nutrition (Mainly grain led diet, high carb and low on fats and proteins), stress and war, it isn’t the natural state of Somalis. Compare Somalis to rural nomadic Afar and you will the result of proper development and weak development. Comparing Somalis from Somali to other males who have been lifting weights since the 1900s, using plastic surgery since 40s, improving their looks since the 60s, taking steroids for better bodies since the 30s isn’t a fair. I wish I could post some pictures of some ridiculously aesthetic good looking Somali guys I know that also lift but I don’t want to enter people privacy. All I can say is compare Somalis who grew up in the West on Western diets, none of this poisonous Somali diet, and you will see proper developed Somalis who reach their future potential. Even if you have poor development you can always enhance you look and improve yourself it isn’t that difficult. And Phinks criticism about Somalis being lazy and having non ambitious is a reality, and this is also another topic for another day. Also we can talk about balding as well and this reason behind this as well.

Also Phinks need to realize the West and Somalia is not the same. In Somalia, a man can get himself a pious virgin Somali women with just being a man, today in the inflated West with women’s choice and ridiculous amount of thirst, today man has to do TWICE as much for less IMO. Somali guys especially from Somali are bringing their mentality to the West which fails but works out home perfectly. Also Somalis from Somalia really don’t understand the racial, racist and superiority complex in this so called “Ummah” of ours. People in the West whether Muslims or Christian have a toxic view on Sex and see it as warfare aka fuking peoples women, humiliating other men and Somalis are naive to this handing their daughter away like candy. However, most young Somalis thankfully understand the racial nature of our Muslim “brothers” and need to boycott these scum. Muslim in name, Kaffir in practice

I transgress though. Anyways, if Somalis males enter the self-development game and improve themselves, nothing stopping reaching lofty heights in all aspect.

Average Somali to Somali beast transformation,



PS. Gym isn't a must but style and being healthy is

Shoutout to Unstable at SSpot

[xaliye123]

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[Raganimo]

I feel like I have to clarify the purpose of this thread for the umpteenth time:

1) The VAST majority of Somali women end up marrying Somali men. I am not suggesting that there is an exodus of Somali women. I believe that our women, on average, are still way better than any other group of women when it comes to diin, akhlaaq, etc.. They don't even compare, trust me. I've been to the "dark side" and it ain't all that great.

2) However, there IS a small minority of women who specifically refuse to marry Somali men or even give them a chance. These women put Ajnabis, particularly white reverts, on a pedestal. Furthermore, we seem to have a larger pool of women who are willing to marry out than other comparable groups. Even if you look at our Habesha neighbours, they do not seem to be effected at the same rate as we are, let alone our fellow Muslims. We need to find out why such a disparity exists.

3) I believe that the second group of women is primarily driven by self-hate (which seems to be corroborated by the threads that I have quoted and some discussions that I've had online and in real life) . I am not saying that self-hate is exclusive to women. It just manifests itself differently in men and women.

4) I was looking for a discussion on how we could overcome the underlying issues of self-hate, self-deprecation, and generally how we could improve on the aspects of our culture that cause some of our youth to become ashamed of their own background.

This is not about heblaayo married Abu Jackson ibn Smythe. I am not worried about IR marriages in principle or what individuals choose to do with their lives.

Hope I've clarified myself now. Please contribute whatever you can. I am trying to have a fruitful dialogue instead of the usual woman-bashing calaacal.

[Gaashaanle1000]

These Salafi kids are actually not conveying Salafi practices but millennial attitudes and behaviours.

Millennials are some of the most confused, disgusting and selfish human beings to have ever walked the face of this Earth. They literally have a Borg hive mind, and have no mind of their own. When the media shows something to be good (white people are the only attractive intelligent people, homosexuality is good, life is about materialism) they follow it.

These women and men are brainwashed! Do not be offended by them.

[Raganimo]

Xanuunku

I agree somewhat with your points. This one right here was spot on though:

Also Somalis from Somalia really don’t understand the racial, racist and superiority complex in this so called “Ummah” of ours. People in the West whether Muslims or Christian have a toxic view on Sex and see it as warfare aka fuking peoples women, humiliating other men and Somalis are naive to this handing their daughter away like candy. However, most young Somalis thankfully understand the racial nature of our Muslim “brothers” and need to boycott these scum. Muslim in name, Kaffir in practice

100% Facts.. Guys will get with a foreign girl and then use it to degrade the men who share her ethnic background. We used to do that a lot when we were younger, particularly Arabs vs. Somalis. Arabs in particular have this weird habit of telling you that they have been with Somali chicks just to spite you off. But like I said earlier, I know which buttons to push with these people so they don't even try me.

IMO the biggest problems is that we have not upgraded our culture to fit the new reality that we live in. To illustrate:

1) The older generation is used to living in villages where there is always someone to watch over your children when you're not around. You know that expression "it takes a village", this is literally how they are used to living back home. They come to Qurbaha and then instead of adapting, they simply just continue to live how they've always lived. This is why the men aren't really present in their children's lives and why the boys aren't taught to be protective of their sisters. Other ajnabi communities are way more protective of their women (sometimes to an extreme). They interpret this lack of protectiveness on the part of the Somalis as "softness" and maybe even a lack of honour/dayuusnimo. This lack of protection also provides ample opportunities for anyone who wants to chat up these girls.

Ask yourself why the marriage bandits in the UK specifically targeted Somali women for the most part. They had easy access to them. Way more easier than, say, Pakistanis or Arabs.

2) It is normal for Somalis back home to say "gabadh baan kuu hayaa". For us it is normal to offer a girl in marriage to someone whom you know. But to these ajnabis it can be interpreted as you trying to pimp out your daughter. It's a cultural misunderstanding. It's another case of odayaal refusing to adapt and living as they always have, thinking that this cadaan revert is culturally identical to a Faarax from back home.

3) In our culture, the parents usually do not fix their daughters up with a man. They expect the girl to bring her own man and then all the parents have to do is either approve or reject. Arranged marriages are quite rare these days. This puts the girls in a vulnerable position. And if the girls have an inferiority complex on top of that, they might deliberately seek out ajaanib in a manner that is aggressive and reeks of desperation. This shames the entire community and not just those particular girls.

[Raganimo]

Lastly, we have to face the facts that most of the parents are illiterates who do not even speak the language. In most cases their kids have to translate for them. This completely shifts the power dynamic in favour of the children who are then able to get away with more and manipulate their parents. The parents are clueless about the dhaqan of the people.

The most successful parents are those who came here with some form of education or who simply put in the effort learn the language and customs of the host nation.

[Raganimo]

These Salafi kids are actually not conveying Salafi practices but millennial attitudes and behaviours.

Millennials are some of the most confused, disgusting and selfish human beings to have ever walked the face of this Earth. They literally have a Borg hive mind, and have no mind of their own. When the media shows something to be good (white people are the only attractive intelligent people, homosexuality is good, life is about materialism) they follow it.

These women and men are brainwashed! Do not be offended by them.

Yeah, I noticed that they weren't the brightest bunch. The arguments they were making were so childish and easy to refute.

[Youareeveryone]

My experience with somali women have led me to believe alot of them are broken, riddled with low self esteem and bipolar. Perhaps it's because of their upbringing? But there's far better options out there, women that know how to treat a man.

[Lalune]

This whole thread is just sad, Walahi.
If you can't see both sides of the coin then I pity you. Many Somali men in the UK/Canada are really damaged. A good chunk are in jail, or on the streets. Its hard to find a decent Somali brother in those countries. Who is there to marry for young Somali women? If course they will be ashamed! This is just a SYMPTOM of a larger problem. The way these men are being raised (i.e with absentee/no good fathers) is a problem. The fact that many, if not most families (in those countries) are not even attempting to make a life for themselves is a problem. The fact that Somalia is/was in shambles was the first problem that set off a chain reaction of other problems, Some self-hating sisters marrying out is the lease of our problems right now. Focus on the problem and you can eradicate the symptoms.

I also think we need to hold ourselves accountable as a community, why have we failed ourselves and why are we continuing to destroy ourselves? It shouldn't be men vs women, qabiil vs qabiil as we are all one people. We need to do better.
Hurdadha ha laga kacoo. We are a mess right now, but we can be like a phoenix rising out of the ashes. I have a lot of hope! Insha'Allah.

[X.Playa]

Actually, Somalis aren't like other Blacks culturally-speaking. They usually marry within their own groups and aren't into white women. Somali women are the female version of Black-American men though. XD. Back in 2012 there was this white revert in my Masjid. He just reverted... After 1 day into his conversion, he was approached by a Somali man with a picture in his hand. A picture of a Somali girl and he asked "Do you want to marry her?". The revert declined the offer. Because he wasn't attracted to Black women. I was just laughing at how aggressive they were to find a white revert for their women. Somali men can't get other women that's why they stick to their women for dear life. So I can see where the jealousy is coming from. Most Somali interracial, the women are usually Somali.

Arabs giving it to their "muslim brothers" he basically stated a little fact that Somalis will find a Somali women for every convert, if this dude converts to islam , Somalis will find him a Somali woman or a Somali woman will find herself for him.

[thehappyone]

I feel like I have to clarify the purpose of this thread for the umpteenth time:

1) The VAST majority of Somali women end up marrying Somali men. I am not suggesting that there is an exodus of Somali women. I believe that our women, on average, are still way better than any other group of women when it comes to diin, akhlaaq, etc.. They don't even compare, trust me. I've been to the "dark side" and it ain't all that great.

2) However, there IS a small minority of women who specifically refuse to marry Somali men or even give them a chance. These women put Ajnabis, particularly white reverts, on a pedestal. Furthermore, we seem to have a larger pool of women who are willing to marry out than other comparable groups. Even if you look at our Habesha neighbours, they do not seem to be effected at the same rate as we are, let alone our fellow Muslims. We need to find out why such a disparity exists.

3) I believe that the second group of women is primarily driven by self-hate (which seems to be corroborated by the threads that I have quoted and some discussions that I've had online and in real life) . I am not saying that self-hate is exclusive to women. It just manifests itself differently in men and women.

4) I was looking for a discussion on how we could overcome the underlying issues of self-hate, self-deprecation, and generally how we could improve on the aspects of our culture that cause some of our youth to become ashamed of their own background.

This is not about heblaayo married Abu Jackson ibn Smythe. I am not worried about IR marriages in principle or what individuals choose to do with their lives.

Hope I've clarified myself now. Please contribute whatever you can. I am trying to have a fruitful dialogue instead of the usual woman-bashing calaacal.

Some people have posted a lot of cringe worthy drivel on here, but I agree with every point you make. The majoiry of xalimos do marry faraxs, but there is a vocal minority that don't. It's so embarrassing. But I have to admit, I find it disgusting when I see a xalimo with an ajnabi and I make sure they know my true feelings. Everyone that knows me knows my feelings on this situation, walahi just two days ago I had this conversation twice at work, one time with a ghanaian cleaner, and another time with a portuguese guy. I told them I didn't like it. The portugese guy agreed and said that he saw a somali girl with 5 or 6 "half cast" kids and laughed. The ghanaian guy was upset and said "ooh its fine for muslim guys to marry anyone". West africans have it really out for our girls. Hayaay.