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grandpakhalif wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:21 am Sharmaake is right, I believe the Dervish wars were absolutely crucial in expelling British influence in the North. Remember it was the Dhulbahante clan who bore the brunt of this struggle and sacrificed thousands of men to achieve victory. Pre dervish wars dhullo population streched from the outskirts of Burco all the way too the edge of Nugaal valley, down until the periphery of Hawd including Wardheer.

They were certainly the most powerful clan in Northern Somalia at the time and struck so much fear into the hearts of idoor that X Playa's subclan use to hide in the mountains to avoid relentless camel raids by the great Garaads of that time. This was the era in which Fiqishini a subclan of the HG were essentially given safe haven in the north

Unfortunately with resistance to the empire comes huge casualties and the treacherous tribes took advantage by populating once vibrant communities. This trend has been aided and abetted by the new one clan failed ictiraafdoon clan enclave but shall be defeated inshalla by a reemerging strong govt

X.Playa wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:40 am

grandpakhalif wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:21 am Sharmaake is right, I believe the Dervish wars were absolutely crucial in expelling British influence in the North. Remember it was the Dhulbahante clan who bore the brunt of this struggle and sacrificed thousands of men to achieve victory. Pre dervish wars dhullo population streched from the outskirts of Burco all the way too the edge of Nugaal valley, down until the periphery of Hawd including Wardheer.

They were certainly the most powerful clan in Northern Somalia at the time and struck so much fear into the hearts of idoor that X Playa's subclan use to hide in the mountains to avoid relentless camel raids by the great Garaads of that time. This was the era in which Fiqishini a subclan of the HG were essentially given safe haven in the north

Unfortunately with resistance to the empire comes huge casualties and the treacherous tribes took advantage by populating once vibrant communities. This trend has been aided and abetted by the new one clan failed ictiraafdoon clan enclave but shall be defeated inshalla by a reemerging strong govt

Boon mareexaan bed side stories. 99% of Dhulbahante were in the British camp and few Dhulbahante ever were killed in any war.

I can start from Afbakayle in 1901 to Jidbaale 1994 few Dhulbahante suffered casualties. In Afbakayle majority of dead dervish were real dervish not Dhulbahante tribesmen. Fardhidin majority dervish death were Majeerteen , Beerdhiga mix of clans and dervish. Daraatoole and Gumburo majority non dhulos in fact in Gumburo majority dervish were Reer Makane ( jareer weyn). Most dhulos causality was in Jidbaale where the battle lasted 10 minutes and dervish fled leaving their Dhulbahante allies to the Gedabursi Tribal Horses that massacred the fleeing dhulis tribes.

And that was it from 1904 till 1920 there was no battles just camel rustling. After 1904 all Dhulbahante sub clans that were with the dervish changed shirt and joined the British camp.

Sharmarke91 wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:57 am

X.Playa wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:40 am

grandpakhalif wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:21 am Sharmaake is right, I believe the Dervish wars were absolutely crucial in expelling British influence in the North. Remember it was the Dhulbahante clan who bore the brunt of this struggle and sacrificed thousands of men to achieve victory. Pre dervish wars dhullo population streched from the outskirts of Burco all the way too the edge of Nugaal valley, down until the periphery of Hawd including Wardheer.

They were certainly the most powerful clan in Northern Somalia at the time and struck so much fear into the hearts of idoor that X Playa's subclan use to hide in the mountains to avoid relentless camel raids by the great Garaads of that time. This was the era in which Fiqishini a subclan of the HG were essentially given safe haven in the north

Unfortunately with resistance to the empire comes huge casualties and the treacherous tribes took advantage by populating once vibrant communities. This trend has been aided and abetted by the new one clan failed ictiraafdoon clan enclave but shall be defeated inshalla by a reemerging strong govt

Boon mareexaan bed side stories. 99% of Dhulbahante were in the British camp and few Dhulbahante ever were killed in any war.

I can start from Afbakayle in 1901 to Jidbaale 1994 few Dhulbahante suffered casualties. In Afbakayle majority of dead dervish were real dervish not Dhulbahante tribesmen. Fardhidin majority dervish death were Majeerteen , Beerdhiga mix of clans and dervish. Daraatoole and Gumburo majority non dhulos in fact in Gumburo majority dervish were Reer Makane ( jareer weyn). Most dhulos causality was in Jidbaale where the battle lasted 10 minutes and dervish fled leaving their Dhulbahante allies to the Gedabursi Tribal Horses that massacred the fleeing dhulis tribes.

And that was it from 1904 till 1920 there was no battles just camel rustling. After 1904 all Dhulbahante sub clans that were with the dervish changed shirt and joined the British camp.

Lol Xaarplayer and his fiddling with xaar, is always amusing.

So who were these so called Dervishes?

X.Playa wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2017 10:14 pm Habar Waa is the nick name of Khaalid and Shirshoore. Both were orphans somehow their cannibal mothet met her match thus Habartii oo la waayeey. Thats not a mans name.

X.Playa wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:58 pm

PrinceNugaalHawd wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:25 pm Xaarplayer you are Musse cabdale right?

1. ISAAQ
2. Garxajis
3. HY
4. Caare
5. Ismaail
6. Abdale
7. Muuse

Me

1. Darood
2. Kablalax
3. Kombe
4. Harti
5. Dhubahante
6. Muse
7.Abdale
8. Habarwa
9.. Garaad Shirshore
10. Maxamuud Garaad.



Baal yaad ka badantahay?

Axmed Garaad na waan Huba ineey iska celin karaan Cidkasta. Baal soo daya Solomadoow lol

Am cigaal abokir at that segmentation not muuse cabdalle. Lool and Habar Waa isn't a man its a nickname fir Shirshoore and Khaalid meaning " those who lost their mom". Or the orphans.

In that particular segmentation comparison iam
1- isaaq
2- garxajis
3- siciid
4- care
5-Ismaaciil
6- cabdalle
7- muuse
8- abokor looge ( notice i didn't count Looge beacuse it was the nickname of Abokor )
9- cigaal abokor ( the traditional chief Akil section of Abokor Looge )

The Faarax Maxamed is totally different segmentation. Your entire Dhulbahate are Faarax Garaad and Maxamud Garaad the rest are not even 10% of Dhulbahante. Nevertheless they cant be compared to Cabdalle Ismaaciil combined Faaraax Garaad and Maxamuud Garaad are by far lesser then Cabdalle Ismaaciil.

weydamal wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2017 6:47 am The word syce is not a common one these days. But in the days when horses reigned supreme as transport and military hardware, this word was used by the Empire to mean a servant employed to look after horses, basically groom them and clean their shit. The precolonial Dhulbahante extensively used iiddor, especially habar yoonis and habar jeclo , as syces. When the British came these syces naturally gravitated towards them, serving their new colonial masters.

Because of their servile and subservient nature, the Somali syces must always serve whichever Empire comes along. That is why they say they are the Queens orphans. They are the only Somali clan that elected a Catholic iiddoor as member of Parliament for Ceelafweyn, Maykal Maryama Luuli, a habar jeclo, uduruxmiin Christian , a man so subservient that he carried a woman's name as his surname. What the hell does uduruxmiin mean anyway, it's not even a Somali name.

The snet syces continue with their lavish praise of every thing gaal and attack everything Somali. That is why they will jail a small sacad yoonis reporter just because he celebrated the win of Farmaajo, something all Somalis did, from Djibouti to NFD. But the white Ngo worker , fag or bum will recieve a hero's welcome in Halfgaysa, even hadduu caruurta faraxumeeyo.

It is their subservient and servile nature, bred into them after centuries of being syces.

Only a strong reawakened Somali nation will save the syces.

original dervish wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2017 6:14 pm This fellow reminds me of the 19 century Egyptologist whom claimed the ancient Egyptians were a lost Nordic race.

X.Playa wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2017 6:29 pm

Great men who liberated the Daarood from the dervish terror. We should build memorials and statutes for these heros.

X.Playa wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:15 am “On getting this news I moved my force from Bohotele via Yaheyl and Weyla Hedd to Firdiddin, and attacked the Mullah at later place. The Mullah’s Mijjertein rifelmen were in considerable strength with Lebel and Martini-henry rifles. His force were however scattered, and he himself was driven back into Italian territory.The Mijjertein lost heavily, and also the Mullah’s own family. His brother-in-law, Gaibdeed, was killed, as well as two sons-in-law, Haji Sudi’s brother and nephews, &c. Sultan Nur’s camels and the Mullah’s cattle were captured. The pursuit was carried on into the bush in the Haud”.

Refrence: Command Papers volume 69 1902.Page 15.

Thats the battle of Fardhidin described by the commander Ltd. Swayn in 1901 to the British colonial office.

Now Grandpa Boon and Qurjiile herd where are the Dhulbahante and the casualitie you constantly bewail.?