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[Xildiiid]

Gaalamadow,

Your only counterpoint is that sampling is too small to make definitive answer on the haplogroups. Gloss over as you wish but the reality, not withstanding STRs, is that your ignoble clan has two, perhaps more, haplogroups which split 50,000 years ago! Is that when the fake ‘Sheikh’ came to northern Somalia?

STRs splits are only few hundred years or thousands, not the 50, 000 years of separation.

Some of you were hunter and gatherers, no doubt. Check the habr Jeclo results.


As for Zeilac, it was long abandoned (continuous bombardment by the Portuguese) before your Idoor uncle, several hundred years later, begged the Yemenis to take over the crumbling fort with their assistance. He dare not venture outside. His own son was slaughtered by an Ciise man, and he couldn’t do squat about it. The countryside belonged to us and will in the future.

French Butler,

You have a problem with basic comprehension.

As I’ve pointed out, larger clans have diverse origin with different genetic markers.

In Darod you’ll find find individuals carrying E-V32, J1 and T-M70.

In Hawiye you’ll find E-V32, R1a (some Sheikhaal) and T-M70.

In some cases, some of the individuals carrying E-V32 within the same clan are not closely related and based on STR share a common ancestor that lived thousands of years before the alleged clan patriarch existed. Belonging to the same subclade doesn’t automatically mean you’re closely related.

Isaaq is not different in this regard because of the size of our clan. You’ll find E-V32, T-M70 and E-V16.

Paleolithic Horn of Africans carried E-V16 and most likely the related E-M35 as well, the quintessential Afro-Asiatic marker. Calling a specific haplogroup “Hunter Gatherer” is an indication of your xaywaan brain.

Stop lying about Zeila. Emir Sharmarke Ali Salih conquered the land and coast from the Yemeni Ayrabs. The same Ayrabs that ruled the town and forbade your kin and Gudabirsi from entering.

Another baseless lie. The Emirs son was based in Berbera and never came into contact with the pagan Ciise Waraabe. He was wounded and killed in intertribal war in Berbera.

We rule Zeila today just like 1825 and there’s nothing you or your French master can do about it.

[original dervish]

When did the hill tribes and cave dwellers form a confederation?

Just asking.

[Jabuutawi]

Gaalamadow,

I don’t have reading comprehension problem. Your FOB ass with thick English accent is probably clouding your judgement.

You haven’t refuted any of my posts.

Unlike Darood/Hawiye, you are almost evenly distributed between two major subclades and a third one, hunter and gatherer.

Dabadhilif Sharmarke had more than one son, you bozo. One of them met his fate under an Ciise qolxad. Same fate some HJ are being slaughtered in Ceel Afweyne now.

I am on my phone, when I get home, big guns come out.

[original dervish]

Jabuutawi....let's try and keep our exchanges in a friendly manor.....much more civilised.

[Xildiiid]

Gaalamadow,

I don’t have reading comprehension problem. Your FOB ass with thick English accent is probably clouding your judgement.

You haven’t refuted any of my posts.

Unlike Darood/Hawiye, you are almost evenly distributed between two major subclades and a third one, hunter and gatherer.

Dabadhilif Sharmarke had more than one son, you bozo. One of them met his fate under an Ciise qolxad. Same fate some HJ are being slaughtered in Ceel Afweyne now.

I am on my phone, when I get home, big guns come out.

French Butler,

Are you crying?

If you didn’t have reading comprehension problems you would understand that E-V32 carrying Darod are diverse even within this subclade. So wether the majority of them are E-V32 doesn’t negate the fact that many of them do not share ancestry unless you go back 3000 years.

Yes, The Emir had many children but not a single son of his was murdered by ignoble, pagan Ciise who could not enter Zeila because of Ayrabs.

The conflict in Ceel Afweyn is literally between family. Caare is fighting his maternal kin and vice versa. That won’t erase the fact that we are still ruling Zeila to this very day just like 150+ years ago and there’s nothing you can do about it.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

So HJ is a fake clan? Damn so Isaaq is basically where all the nasab dhiman of the north hide under? No wonder they have cuqdad. Makes total sense now.

[Xildiiid]

So many Dofaars coming out of the woodwork in order to cheerlead for the obliterated Hyena

[Jabuutawi]

So what they don’t share common ancestry in the last couple hundred years or couple thousand years. Your ignoble clan does not share same common paternal ancestry for more than 50,000 years.

Ceel Afwayne slaughter can’t be excused because of family dispute. No other ‘family’ slaughters like you do.

More coming later, ibni xaraam.

[mahoka]

The yemeni Arabs were enslaving the naked ciise, at least they introduced Islam to the sharp toothed Oromo pagans, the french took the deen away since.


As for reer waaq worshippers, there is a reason they are called jidwaaq, come from caabudwaaq etc. They are Oromo

[Xildiiid]

So what they don’t share common ancestry in the last couple hundred years or couple thousand years. Your ignoble clan does not share same common paternal ancestry for more than 50,000 years.

More coming later, ibni xaraam.

French Butler wipe the tears..

So? It still debunks the myth of a single clan patriarch. Something you can’t grasp with your tiny Waraabe brain even though it is the main point in your argument lol.

So what if we do not share paternal ancestor for 50.000 years? We are still bound by kinship (intermarriage for generations) and blood money.

[Jaamacbuuhoodle]

Taariikhda Soomaalida markaa dib loo raaco waxaa sii cad odayaashii hore uu sheegii jiren in xulufo ku jiraan beelaha Soomaaliyeed waana dhaqan xataa beelaha Carabtu leedahay .

: reer Sheekh Isaxaaq waa saddex qoomiyadu isku jiraa

1- Garxajis 90% waa dhashii odaygii Direed Isaxaaq Dir Irir Saamaale / 10% kale waa Xulufo .

2- habar Awal 100% waa Oromo waxay ahaan jireen xartii Sheekh Isaxaaq kadibna xulufo ayay la noqdeen dhashii Sheekh Isxaaq ,, odayaasha habar Awal waligood ma sheegan jirin inay Dir yihiin sabato ah waxay xulufo la ahayeen Isaaq kaliya .

(( Dhaqanka reerka habar Awal waa laga dareema isir Nacaybka Somalinimada ))

3- habar Jeclo 70% waa dashii Sheekh Isaxaaq / 20% kale waa xulufo / 10% waa Xabashii .

: reerka Daarood Ismaaciil sido kale waxaa ku jiraa qoomiyadu kala duwan .

1- Majeerteen 50% waa dhashii odaygii Sheekh Daarood Ismaaciil / 50% kale ,, waa xulufo lagu daray . (( Reerka Maxamuud Saleebaan )) noloshayda ma dareemin waligay in dhiig naga dhaxeeyo reerka Maxamuud Saleebaan )) waa in sii deg deg ah DNA-kooda loo baara

(( Dhaqanka reerka Maxamuud Saleebaan waa laga dareema isir Nacaybka Somalinimada ))

2- Dhulbahante 80% waa dhasii Sheekh Daarood / 20% kale waa xulufo .

3- Mareexaan 80% waa dhashii Daarood / 20% kale waa xulufo .

4- Ogaadeen 70% waa dashii Daarood / 30% kale waa Somali / Xabashii / Oromo / /bantu / kenya / Saudia Arabia / Iran / pakistan / India / China / Russia .
.
Hawiye - 65% waa dashii odaygii Hawiye Irir Saamaale / 35% kale waa Africa / Asia / Europe .

Dir 70 % waa dashii Irir Saamaale / 30% waa Africa / Asia / Europe

[ImamAhmed]

Taariikhda Soomaalida markaa dib loo raaco waxaa sii cad odayaashii hore uu sheegii jiren in xulufo ku jiraan beelaha Soomaaliyeed waana dhaqan xataa beelaha Carabtu leedahay .

: reer Sheekh Isaxaaq waa saddex qoomiyadu isku jiraa

1- Garxajis 90% waa dhashii odaygii Direed Isaxaaq Dir Irir Saamaale / 10% kale waa Xulufo .

2- habar Awal 100% waa Oromo waxay ahaan jireen xartii Sheekh Isaxaaq kadibna xulufo ayay la noqdeen dhashii Sheekh Isxaaq ,, odayaasha habar Awal waligood ma sheegan jirin inay Dir yihiin sabato ah waxay xulufo la ahayeen Isaaq kaliya .

(( Dhaqanka reerka habar Awal waa laga dareema isir Nacaybka Somalinimada ))

3- habar Jeclo 70% waa dashii Sheekh Isaxaaq / 20% kale waa xulufo / 10% waa Xabashii .

: reerka Daarood Ismaaciil sido kale waxaa ku jiraa qoomiyadu kala duwan .

1- Majeerteen 50% waa dhashii odaygii Sheekh Daarood Ismaaciil / 50% kale ,, waa xulufo lagu daray . (( Reerka Maxamuud Saleebaan )) noloshayda ma dareemin waligay in dhiig naga dhaxeeyo reerka Maxamuud Saleebaan )) waa in sii deg deg ah DNA-kooda loo baara

(( Dhaqanka reerka Maxamuud Saleebaan waa laga dareema isir Nacaybka Somalinimada ))

2- Dhulbahante 80% waa dhasii Sheekh Daarood / 20% kale waa xulufo .

3- Mareexaan 80% waa dhashii Daarood / 20% kale waa xulufo .

4- Ogaadeen 70% waa dashii Daarood / 30% kale waa Somali / Xabashii / Oromo / /bantu / kenya / Saudia Arabia / Iran / pakistan / India / China / Russia .
.
Hawiye - 65% waa dashii odaygii Hawiye Irir Saamaale / 35% kale waa Africa / Asia / Europe .

Dir 70 % waa dashii Irir Saamaale / 30% waa Africa / Asia / Europe

Warya garxajis aren't ganna save you kursigay rabaan. Caare waa ninka cali khalif iyo khatumo eryanayay. He has slaughtered countless shufto.

[Jabuutawi]

Gaalamadow, what you don't seem to grasp is the fact that your ignoble clan is the biggest sheegato of all Somali clans.

The extent that you are almost equally split between two paternal haplogroups, perhaps even a third one with the marker of a hunter and gatherer, should give you a pause. No other Somali clan has this deep and pervasive split but your clan.

Another issue, I would rather share a paternal lineage that is 3,000 years old than one that is 50,000 years. Only a fool would ignore the difference in magnitude.

The aforementioned paragraphs are my main points. Do you get now, Hunter and Gatherer?

Gaalamadow/Hunter and Gatherer said,
So what if we do not share paternal ancestor for 50.000 years? We are still bound by kinship (intermarriage for generations) and blood money.

At least we agree on the above statement. A house of cards built by the mythical 'Sheikh' Isaac

These are your savage people in Berbera whom a Chinese explorer described to the world:





This depiction of your people were in the 9th century, almost 200 years after Islam came to Zeila, yet your savage spirit was in effect

Nacaska kalay ee ku magac dheer Mahoka, of all the Idoors, you should be the last to talk! You are langaab among your Oromo subclan, Abkr. Your bigger Oromo brother, Jibril Abkr, abuses you (Hussein Abkr) like the obsession you have for man's derriere. Just give it up. You are nothing, I pity you.

[original dervish]

Most northerners new this already.....hj are a confederation of hill tribes and cave dwellers.

[ImamAhmed]

Did isaaq or cisse or darood exist in the 9th century? You are mocking the pre Somali