Can a muslim love a Kafir? how about Friendship ?
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Justmoslimah , you are talking of your desires, what I wrote to you verse from they Quran, Allah has told us over 1400 years a go that non-Muslims don’t love us, I did not make it in my own mind its clear. Don’t come and talking to me about osama ben ladn and cheap talk like that on why non-Muslims hates Muslims, its clear you don’t know much about Quran so do u self a favours and READ THE QURAN AL KAREEM…..
You are talking to me about who the devils view of Islam, BBC CNN FOX NEWS safe it, Allah has already told us and I know Allhmdueillah.. What I also find strange is after so many years of keeping silence you get on this post to tell me the view of non-Muslims, when there is non-Muslims slandering our prophets and Allah in this forum why don’t you react to them? Allahu yaclam.. Don’t tell me what your disers telles you and bring me a verses from Quran and the Ahadeeth the a Muslim should love a non-Muslim. That is the whole point with this Post..
Repeat after me; Allah has said!!!!!
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*[لاَّ تَجÙÂد٠قَوْماً يÙÂؤْمÙÂنÙÂونَ بÙÂاللَّه٠وَالْيَوْم٠الاٌّخÙÂر٠يÙÂوَآدّÙÂونَ مَنْ ØÂَآدَّ اللَّهَ وَرَسÙÂولَه٠وَلَوْ كَانÙÂواْ ءَابَآءَهÙÂمْ أَوْ أَبْنَآءَهÙÂمْ أَوْ Ø¥ÙÂخْوَنَهÙÂمْ أَوْ عَشÙÂيرَتَهÙÂمْ]
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(You will not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, making friendship with those who oppose Allah and His Messenger, even though they were their fathers or their sons or their brothers or their kindred.) Meaning, do not befriend the deniers, even if they are among the closest relatives.
Fe Aman Allah
Justmoslimah , you are talking of your desires, what I wrote to you verse from they Quran, Allah has told us over 1400 years a go that non-Muslims don’t love us, I did not make it in my own mind its clear. Don’t come and talking to me about osama ben ladn and cheap talk like that on why non-Muslims hates Muslims, its clear you don’t know much about Quran so do u self a favours and READ THE QURAN AL KAREEM…..
You are talking to me about who the devils view of Islam, BBC CNN FOX NEWS safe it, Allah has already told us and I know Allhmdueillah.. What I also find strange is after so many years of keeping silence you get on this post to tell me the view of non-Muslims, when there is non-Muslims slandering our prophets and Allah in this forum why don’t you react to them? Allahu yaclam.. Don’t tell me what your disers telles you and bring me a verses from Quran and the Ahadeeth the a Muslim should love a non-Muslim. That is the whole point with this Post..
Repeat after me; Allah has said!!!!!
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*[لاَّ تَجÙÂد٠قَوْماً يÙÂؤْمÙÂنÙÂونَ بÙÂاللَّه٠وَالْيَوْم٠الاٌّخÙÂر٠يÙÂوَآدّÙÂونَ مَنْ ØÂَآدَّ اللَّهَ وَرَسÙÂولَه٠وَلَوْ كَانÙÂواْ ءَابَآءَهÙÂمْ أَوْ أَبْنَآءَهÙÂمْ أَوْ Ø¥ÙÂخْوَنَهÙÂمْ أَوْ عَشÙÂيرَتَهÙÂمْ]
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(You will not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, making friendship with those who oppose Allah and His Messenger, even though they were their fathers or their sons or their brothers or their kindred.) Meaning, do not befriend the deniers, even if they are among the closest relatives.
Fe Aman Allah
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My advice to justmoslimah is verse form the Quran commandments of Allah;
[أَرَءَيْتَ مَن٠اتَّخَذَ Ø¥ÙÂلَـهَه٠هَوَاهÙÂ]
(Have you seen him who has taken as his god his own vain desire) meaning, whatever he admires and sees as good in his own desires becomes his religion and his way.
I supplicate to Allah that you don’t becalm these type of people as Muslims we take the verse single verses of the Quran and we must adhere it and if we reject even a single verse then we are not Muslims, or logic is cancelled cancelled cancelled and rejected when it comes to the commandments of Allah and his prophet (may Allahs peace n blessings be upon him)
Fe Aman Allah
[أَرَءَيْتَ مَن٠اتَّخَذَ Ø¥ÙÂلَـهَه٠هَوَاهÙÂ]
(Have you seen him who has taken as his god his own vain desire) meaning, whatever he admires and sees as good in his own desires becomes his religion and his way.
I supplicate to Allah that you don’t becalm these type of people as Muslims we take the verse single verses of the Quran and we must adhere it and if we reject even a single verse then we are not Muslims, or logic is cancelled cancelled cancelled and rejected when it comes to the commandments of Allah and his prophet (may Allahs peace n blessings be upon him)
Fe Aman Allah
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islam emphasis on justice and virtuous treatment 2 all human beings without discrimination is very manifest. it doesn’t permit differentiation in the treatment of other ppl on the basis of *religion, colour, race, sex or nationality*.....
the proof is *when prophet Mohammed *peace be upon him* occupied down in *Medinah*, he accomplished 2 get all inhabitants, *Muslims*, *Jews*, *Christians* and pagan *Arabs* 2 penetrate into some form of a social treaty*.....
the prophet declared *whoever hurts a *non Muslim*, I shall be his complainant and 4 whoever I am a complainant, I shall ask 4 his right on the day of resurrection*.......
he also averred *whoever persecutes a *non Muslim* or demands work from him beyond his capacity or takes something from him with evil intentions, I shall be a complainant against him on the day of resurrection*........
islam determines the various acts of sympathy and coordinate the responsibilities and authority of different relationships. liberty 4 the *Muslims* as well as 4 the *non-Muslims* is guaranteed by *Islamic law*, which bequeath all citizens the privilege 2 inclusive impartiality and considers their life and property sacred......
prophet Mohammed asserted *1 who hurts a *non-Muslim*, he hurts me and 1 who hurts me, hurts God*......
*Quran* says *and argue with them in ways that r best and most gracious* (16: 125)......
again the prophet declared *whoever relieves a human being from a grief of this world, *God* will relieve him from a grief on the day of judgment*......
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beside, endure me 2 enlighten u that u didn’t comprehended that verse sis…
*You will not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, making friendship with those who oppose Allah and His Messenger, even though they were their fathers or their sons or their brothers or their kindred*…
friendship in the above verses, the *Arabic* word 4 *friends* is *awliyaa*, which has 3 literal meanings: *allies*, *friends*; and *guardians* , the *Arabic* word used in the above verse was *tatawallu*, which is derived from the root word *awliyaa*.....
*waliy* which is the singular of "awliyaa" means *guardian* as your parents were ur *guardians* when u were a kid. so as u can sight, the *Arabic* word *awliyaa* has dissimilar literal meanings. alongside the english translation of the noble verses above is not precise, cause the use of the word *friends* in actuality is out of context. the word *allies* is the accurate 1, cause in all of the noble verses above *Allah* almighty was talking 2 the *Muslims* as a group taking *a group of ppl or community* as *awliyaa*, which fits flawlessly with *alliance* than with just personal *friendship* on an individual level......
there is nothing invalid with cultivating a personal friendship with a *non-Muslim* 2 assist him/her empathize and appreciate *Islam* and 2 ultimately embrace it if they choose 2. *Allah* almighty commanded all *Muslims* 2 regard with compassion and justice all of the good *non-Muslims*… Another testimony that the above english translation of the word *friends* is erroneous, and the correct word is *alliance* is, *how can *Allah* almighty prohibit 4 any *Muslim* 2 form personal friendship with any *Jew* or *Christian*, when he the almighty sanctioned 4 *Muslim* men 2 have friendly relationships with *Jewish* and *Christian* women like they do with *Muslim* women apparently (without sex be4 marriage) that could lead 2 marriage
...what u scripted could be considered as *bid’ah*= innovation sis, so relinquish posting any further threads regarding 2 this discussion…*plz ukhti*.... 

the proof is *when prophet Mohammed *peace be upon him* occupied down in *Medinah*, he accomplished 2 get all inhabitants, *Muslims*, *Jews*, *Christians* and pagan *Arabs* 2 penetrate into some form of a social treaty*.....

the prophet declared *whoever hurts a *non Muslim*, I shall be his complainant and 4 whoever I am a complainant, I shall ask 4 his right on the day of resurrection*.......
he also averred *whoever persecutes a *non Muslim* or demands work from him beyond his capacity or takes something from him with evil intentions, I shall be a complainant against him on the day of resurrection*........
islam determines the various acts of sympathy and coordinate the responsibilities and authority of different relationships. liberty 4 the *Muslims* as well as 4 the *non-Muslims* is guaranteed by *Islamic law*, which bequeath all citizens the privilege 2 inclusive impartiality and considers their life and property sacred......
prophet Mohammed asserted *1 who hurts a *non-Muslim*, he hurts me and 1 who hurts me, hurts God*......
*Quran* says *and argue with them in ways that r best and most gracious* (16: 125)......
again the prophet declared *whoever relieves a human being from a grief of this world, *God* will relieve him from a grief on the day of judgment*......

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beside, endure me 2 enlighten u that u didn’t comprehended that verse sis…



friendship in the above verses, the *Arabic* word 4 *friends* is *awliyaa*, which has 3 literal meanings: *allies*, *friends*; and *guardians* , the *Arabic* word used in the above verse was *tatawallu*, which is derived from the root word *awliyaa*.....
*waliy* which is the singular of "awliyaa" means *guardian* as your parents were ur *guardians* when u were a kid. so as u can sight, the *Arabic* word *awliyaa* has dissimilar literal meanings. alongside the english translation of the noble verses above is not precise, cause the use of the word *friends* in actuality is out of context. the word *allies* is the accurate 1, cause in all of the noble verses above *Allah* almighty was talking 2 the *Muslims* as a group taking *a group of ppl or community* as *awliyaa*, which fits flawlessly with *alliance* than with just personal *friendship* on an individual level......
there is nothing invalid with cultivating a personal friendship with a *non-Muslim* 2 assist him/her empathize and appreciate *Islam* and 2 ultimately embrace it if they choose 2. *Allah* almighty commanded all *Muslims* 2 regard with compassion and justice all of the good *non-Muslims*… Another testimony that the above english translation of the word *friends* is erroneous, and the correct word is *alliance* is, *how can *Allah* almighty prohibit 4 any *Muslim* 2 form personal friendship with any *Jew* or *Christian*, when he the almighty sanctioned 4 *Muslim* men 2 have friendly relationships with *Jewish* and *Christian* women like they do with *Muslim* women apparently (without sex be4 marriage) that could lead 2 marriage


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in actuality I reverence the way u solicit 4 ur request, even though I can’t promise u that I’ll cease using my gorgeous *.*.*.*…..but I’ll attempt 2 restrain my self from doing so....*yarow*...again can u plz call me *ureysoo* cause i didn't modify my nick yet...or stinky if u prefer ..... 

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to ureysoo; what does alliance mean in the english dictionary??
1. A close association of nations or other groups, formed to advance common interests or causes: an alliance of labor unions opposing the bill.
2. A formal agreement establishing such an association, especially an international treaty of friendship.
2. A connection based on kinship, marriage, or common interest; a bond or tie: the shifting alliances within a large family.
3. Close similarity in nature or type; affinity: the ancient alliance between mathematics and music.
4. The act of becoming allied or the condition of being allied: the church, acting in alliance with community groups.
jazakom Allah kheryna JAZA for Poiting it Out;
so where we find friendship , acting in alliance with community groups, Close similarity in nature
1. A close association of nations or other groups, formed to advance common interests or causes: an alliance of labor unions opposing the bill.
2. A formal agreement establishing such an association, especially an international treaty of friendship.
2. A connection based on kinship, marriage, or common interest; a bond or tie: the shifting alliances within a large family.
3. Close similarity in nature or type; affinity: the ancient alliance between mathematics and music.
4. The act of becoming allied or the condition of being allied: the church, acting in alliance with community groups.
jazakom Allah kheryna JAZA for Poiting it Out;
so where we find friendship , acting in alliance with community groups, Close similarity in nature

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Who talked about discriminations?
And I did not talk about harming anyone??
Let a long harming a killing them?? Where are u getting all this from ?
Qal Allah:
[وَلاَ تَقْتÙÂلÙÂواْ النَّÙÂْسَ الَّتÙÂى ØÂَرَّمَ اللَّه٠إÙÂلاَّ بÙÂالْØÂَقّÙÂ]
(And kill not anyone whom Allah has forbidden, except for a just cause (according to Islamic law).) This part of the Ayah emphasizes this prohibition in specific, although it is included in the immoral sins committed openly and in secret.
Al-Bukhari recorded that `Abdullah bin `Amr said that the Prophet said,
«مَنْ قَتَلَ مÙÂعَاهÙÂدًا لَمْ يَرَØÂْ رَائÙÂØÂَةَ الْجَنَّةÙÂ، وَإÙÂنَّ رÙÂيØÂَهَا لَيÙÂوجَد٠مÙÂنْ مَسÙÂيرَة٠أَرْبَعÙÂينَ عَامًّا»
(Whoever killed a person having a treaty of protection with Muslims, shall not smell the scent of Paradise, though its scent is perceived from a distance of forty years.
((((prophet Mohammed asserted *1 who hurts a *non-Muslim*, he hurts me and 1 who hurts me, hurts God*...... ( I need this hadeeth and its narrations )))) BArak Allahu feeke
you are correct about this Masha*Allah caleeke and I shell take this advice barak allahu feeke
"Invite to the way of your Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching and reason with them in the best manners possible" (Sura Al-Nahl 16, Ayah 125)
And I did not talk about harming anyone??
Let a long harming a killing them?? Where are u getting all this from ?
Qal Allah:
[وَلاَ تَقْتÙÂلÙÂواْ النَّÙÂْسَ الَّتÙÂى ØÂَرَّمَ اللَّه٠إÙÂلاَّ بÙÂالْØÂَقّÙÂ]
(And kill not anyone whom Allah has forbidden, except for a just cause (according to Islamic law).) This part of the Ayah emphasizes this prohibition in specific, although it is included in the immoral sins committed openly and in secret.
Al-Bukhari recorded that `Abdullah bin `Amr said that the Prophet said,
«مَنْ قَتَلَ مÙÂعَاهÙÂدًا لَمْ يَرَØÂْ رَائÙÂØÂَةَ الْجَنَّةÙÂ، وَإÙÂنَّ رÙÂيØÂَهَا لَيÙÂوجَد٠مÙÂنْ مَسÙÂيرَة٠أَرْبَعÙÂينَ عَامًّا»
(Whoever killed a person having a treaty of protection with Muslims, shall not smell the scent of Paradise, though its scent is perceived from a distance of forty years.
((((prophet Mohammed asserted *1 who hurts a *non-Muslim*, he hurts me and 1 who hurts me, hurts God*...... ( I need this hadeeth and its narrations )))) BArak Allahu feeke
you are correct about this Masha*Allah caleeke and I shell take this advice barak allahu feeke
"Invite to the way of your Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching and reason with them in the best manners possible" (Sura Al-Nahl 16, Ayah 125)
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“yarow madax adeeg baa ku dilayâ€Â...
...it's aight I won't be offended, mater of fact it's my nick. apparently I won't be using it in the 1st place if I find it so malicious…*cadi iska dhig * and call me ayeeyo ureysoo…be4 I force u 2…by the way can I use “†instead of **…
esteem elders like me...


esteem elders like me...

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ureysoo Qal Allah;
[لاَ تَتَّخÙÂذÙÂواْ الَّذÙÂينَ اتَّخَذÙÂواْ دÙÂينَكÙÂمْ هÙÂزÙÂواً وَلَعÙÂباً مّÙÂنَ الَّذÙÂينَ Ø£ÙÂوتÙÂواْ الْكÙÂتَـبَ مÙÂن قَبْلÙÂكÙÂمْ]
(Take not as friends those who take your religion for a mockery and fun from those who received the Scriptures before you...)
[لاَ تَتَّخÙÂذÙÂواْ الَّذÙÂينَ اتَّخَذÙÂواْ دÙÂينَكÙÂمْ هÙÂزÙÂواً وَلَعÙÂباً مّÙÂنَ الَّذÙÂينَ Ø£ÙÂوتÙÂواْ الْكÙÂتَـبَ مÙÂن قَبْلÙÂكÙÂمْ]
(Take not as friends those who take your religion for a mockery and fun from those who received the Scriptures before you...)
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