divorcing my wife SERIOUS TOPIC

[Lillaahiya]

I'm a slifer. Meeshan ayaan u soo qaxay

[1nemansquad]

lol, you're very blessed because your here finally and not so bright because you were a member in that kindergarten; wlc

[Salahuddiin]

On his last will in advise to his son Hassan(RH) Hadrat ALI(RH) advised him

Do not seek the advice of women, their verdicts are often immature and incorrect and their determinations are not firm. You must guard and defend them and act as a shelter to protect them from impious and injurious surroundings and infamous sights, this kind of shelter will keep them well-protected from every harm. Their contact with a vicious and sinful atmosphere (even with all the shelter that you can provide) is going to prove more harmful than being left with protection. Do not let them interfere with affairs where you cannot personally guide or protect them. Do not let them aspire for things which are beyond their capacities. They are more like decoration to humanity and are not made to rule and govern humanity. Exhibit reasonable interest in things which they desire and give importance to them, but do not let them influence your opinions and do not let them impel you to go against your sane views.
Do not force them into marriages which they abhor or which they consider below their dignity because there is danger of thus converting honourable and virtuous women into shameless and dishonourable beings.
Divide and distribute work among your servants so that you can hold each one responsible for the work entrusted to them. This is a better and smoother way of carrying on a work than each one of them throwing the responsibility of every bit of work on somebody else.
Treat the members of your family with love and respect because they act as wings with which you fly and as hands which support you and fight for you. They are people towards whom you turn when you are in trouble and in need.
My dear son! After having given these pieces of advice to you I entrust you to the Lord. He will help, guide and protect you in this world and the Hereafter. I beseech Him to take you under His protection in both the worlds.


Mashallah we should follow this great man's advise one of the best sahabis and caliph" quote
http://www.nahjulbalagha.org/LetterDetail.php?Letter=31

This book shouldn't be taken very seriously because there are problems regarding it's authenticity... There could be wisdom in it's sermons but they are not necessarily from Ali RA...

Nahjul Balagha is not a religious book, the guy who collected these Sermons never intended on writing a book of Fiqh or Aqeedah and this is mainly why he didn’t care about the authenticity of the Texts inside his book, The purpose of this book is to show Eloquent Arabic literature, this is why he named it the “Peak of eloquence” or “Nahjul balagha”, It is categorised by the scholars as a book of “Adab”… meaning a Book of Arab literature and No one with his right mind would use an Isnad-less book to build his religion. Shia Scholars were trying their best to dig up and find correct Sanads for such Khutbas unfortunately They never came up with anything convincing.

We ask the Shia for a Sahih Isnad to Ali bin abi talib RAA and they give us pathetic chains from God knows where, as if we’d accept a Shia isnad. The Shia scholars have been digging hard trying to find ANY source or anything which resembles these Khutbas of Nahjul Balagha in order to claim that the book is authentic, They tried to find and come up with any Isnad for the book so they can statisfy their followers and what they came up with was quite laughable and unacceptable to any man who has intelect, one of these scholars

who tried to defend this book is Abdul Zahra al Khatib, he writes in his book:

[ ان الشريف لم يجمع النهج لجعل منه مصدراً من مصادر الفقه ، او مدركاً من مدارك الاحكام ، بل كان جل قصده ان يخرج للناس جانباً من كلام امير المؤمنين الذي يتضمن من

عجائب البلاغة ، وغرائب الفصاحة ، وجواهر العربية ، وثواقب الكلم الدينية والدنيوية ما لا يوجد مجتمعاً في كلام ولا مجموع الاطراف في كتاب ، لذا تراه لم يذكر الاسانيد ، ولم

يتعرض للمصادر الا فيما ندر ]
[ مصادر نهج البلاغة واسانيده / عبد الزهراء الخطيب ص 27 ]

“Al Shareef did not collect Nahjul balagha to make it a book of Fiqh/Jurisprudence or a book to extract rulings from, But His aim was to reveal to the people a sample from the speech of Ameer al mumineen and to show the rare eloquence and the wonders of Arabic tongue and its jewels, This is why he never mentioned any Asanid or even sources unless very rarely” Source: [Masadir Nahjul balagha wa Asaniduhu/ Abdul Zahra al Khateeb page 27]

So it’s not even a religious book but a Book of Arab literature with absolutely no Isnads whatsoever Unlike the four ancient Main Shia books which are full of thousands of hadiths with and without Isnads, thus we cannot take anything from such book and build our religion or better yet build an entire Madhab based on such ridiculous book. As far as scientific Value, it has no scholarly or scientific value.

And this Guy who wrote an entire book to defend Nahjul Balagha’s Authenticity stated at the beginning of his book (and I want you to notice their Tactics):

فهل يطمع طامع بعد تلك الحوادث والكوارث في العثور على جميع مصادر نهج البلاغة بجميع مفرداته وفقراته ؟ كلا ثم كلا ]
[ مصادر نهج البلاغة واسانيده / عبد الزهراء الخطيب ص 24 ]

“So would anyone be greedy enough after all of these distaters and incidents to ask for ALL THE SOURCES of Nahjul Balagha with all of its vocabulary? NO and Then NO!“
[Masadir Nahjul Balagha wa Asaniduhu / Abdul Zahra page 24]

then he mentions in page 25
[ وما لحق مكتباتهم من التحريق ، حتى اضطر شيخ الطائفة اخيراً في سنة (450 هـ ) ان يهاجر الى النجف ]
“And the burning of the Shia libraries until the sheikh al Taefa(TUSI) had to finally move to Najaf in 450 hijri“.

Note: So basically he’s telling the reader that the Shiite books have been attacked over and over and the Shiites have been oppressed and the sources of their books have dissapeared over time so it’s not logical for us to ask for the Sources of the Sermons Word per Word. although everyone knows that Tusi’s Library was burned 50 years after Nahjul Balagha was written and Tusi’s library was not the only one with this book in it. So it doesn’t affect the sources of Nahjul Balagha.

Then the Nahjul Balagha defender who Already stated that the sources of these Sermons had been burned and disappeared Said in Page 26:

[ وعلى هذا فليس بضائر فيما نحن فيه اذا كان فيما ننقله عما جعلناه مصادر للنهج ما يختلف معه اختلافاً يسيراً بزيادة عبارة او نقصان اخرى او اختلاف كلمة او سقوط جزء ]

[ مصادر نهج البلاغة واسانيده / عبد الزهراء الخطيب ص 26 ]

“And It’s not harmful in this situation if we return to these sources of the Nahjul Balagha which we specified and if they have a little conflict with what’s in our book by addition of a phrase or deletion of a phrase or having different words or missing parts“

Note: So Now he’s saying That there are Sources to these Sermons and Those sources Conflict (but by a Small amount) with what’s written in Nahjul Balagha…

Mashallah how academic.

He mentions in Page 25:
[ ذهاب معظم الاثار التي كانت في عهد الشريف الرضي بسبب الفتن والمحن كما المحنا لطرف منها انفاً ]
“The Disapearance of MOST of the sources during the Life of al shareef al Radhi because of Fitnah and hardships that we mentioned earlier”

Any Muslim with intellect knows that he’s paving the way to some of the weakest and most unreliable sources and the most unacceptable of Isnads ever.And God knows what his proof is when he says That The time of NahjuL Balagha was full of Fitnah.

From what we understand until now is that The Sources are different then what’s written inside the Nahj and some of them are missing phrases and adding phrases or missing Paragraphs or changing words and that we can’t get all the sources for these sermons and That even if we get sources the Isnad needs to be authentic and Sahih.

So until now the conclusion we draw is that we cannot attribute this book to imam Ali RAA by Jazm.

http://islamistruth.wordpress.com/2010/ ... henticity/

[CoolPoisons]

marka hore thanks to all who gave good advice

ive made a decision and ive decided that the kid comes first

i hate broken homes

[quark]

marka hore thanks to all who gave good advice

ive made a decision and ive decided that the kid comes first

i hate broken homes

[AhmedBoqor]

marka hore thanks to all who gave good advice

ive made a decision and ive decided that the kid comes first

i hate broken homes

[abdisamad3]

BTW I forget to add since day one of our marriage I gave my wife a credit card to my account that may explain why we never fight over money

Adisamad, thank you for the tip, will keep that in mind when its my time

Your wlc bro

[LiQaaye_TDH]

@ This Topic..... War Ninyow Somalidi Dhibaato Xoogan aya Haysa ...

Mr Coolpoison....Save your marriage man, There is no point for Divorce, and your the one who will lose out if you Divorce her, you guys need to learn how to play with the ladies, if she wants to manage your wages, let her! BUT.... Never tell her your Full Wages, how much your really get, if you Earn 2000$, tell her you earn 1500$, and let her deal with it, if she missmanages tell her off, but your wife seems to be the Ones that likes to be in control, you should have seen this in the Biggenin before you got married.... if That dont work out, Caloosha uu Buuxi One more time, as long as she is pregnent she will never Divorce you Mar Kastaba ku celi ay bilowdo Qaylo, then you will end up with 20 siyaad barres yaryar

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

You are sad case. How can a woman or chimp treat you this way. Man up, dude before you are made slave.

[Dudaaye]

Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand. Quran 4:34


Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: Once Allah's Apostle went out to the Musalla (to offer the prayer) o 'Id-al-Adha or Al-Fitr prayer. Then he passed by the women and said, "O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women)." They asked, "Why is it so, O Allah's Apostle ?" He replied, "You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you." The women asked, "O Allah's Apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?" He said, "Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?" They replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn't it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?" The women replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her religion." Sahih Bukhari

Narrated Abu Bakra: During the battle of Al-Jamal, Allah benefited me with a Word (I heard from the Prophet). When the Prophet heard the news that the people of the Persia had made the daughter of Khosrau their Queen (ruler), he said, "Never will succeed such a nation as makes a woman their ruler." Sahih Bukhari

Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: The Prophet said: "I was shown the Hell-fire and that the majority of its dwellers were women who were ungrateful." It was asked, "Do they disbelieve in Allah?" (or are they ungrateful to Allah?) He replied, "They are ungrateful to their husbands and are ungrateful for the favors and the good (charitable deeds) done to them. If you have always been good (benevolent) to one of them and then she sees something in you (not of her liking), she will say, 'I have never received any good from you." Sahih Bukhari

Abu Huraira (Allah be pleased with him) reported Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) as saying: He who believes in Allah and the Hereafter, if he witnesses any matter he should talk in good terms about it or keep quiet. Act kindly towards woman, for woman is created from a rib, and the most crooked part of the rib is its top. If you attempt to straighten it, you will break it, and if you leave it, its crookedness will remain there. So act kindly towards women.
Sahih Bukhari

[Hargaysa1982]

Get divorce out of your mind, your problems can be managed if you two sit with each other and talk. Sit her bumbum down and talk to her face2face, if you can help with the household chores do it walaalo if it takes for you to clean the freaking bathroom once in a while to make her happy, just do it for the sake of your marriage and Your baby. You have a child so divorce should be a last resort. Lacagta soo maha ask her why she wants madax xanuunkeeda? tell her you don't want to burden her lakiin hadii ay rabto give her a trail period like 2 months see if she can actually manage to pay the bills/balance the checks and do her regular household work all at the same time, she might end up not liking it and thank you for all the hard work you do.
Also she has a right to know about your salary and what you make so don't make it a secret she might be assuming that you make alot more than you actually do......talk talk talk, communication is the key.

[Hargaysa1982]

marka hore thanks to all who gave good advice

ive made a decision and ive decided that the kid comes first

i hate broken homes

Atta boy lol that was easy good luck....work on it, its hard work to be married waleeeee no joke

[Mondey]

marka hore thanks to all who gave good advice

ive made a decision and ive decided that the kid comes first

i hate broken homes

saving the marriage for the sake of the child is a good call..

but make sure no one will use ur child in future to blackmail u.