skywalker25 wrote:udun wrote:skywalker25 wrote:Udun, why do you keep changing the goal post? Cayanaba is talking about land grabbing and your talking about stealing camels.
He has brought forward evidence from not a HJ but Ogaden poet, which backs up his claim, that HJ have taken alot of land from your tribe. You have provided some face saving calcaals.

Well, I proved that there was no land grab since your beesha were doing calaacal at that time. Your reference a Mohamed Omar Dage, and I referenced a HJ poet who were doing calaacal at that time. Well, how can you do calaacal and grab land at the sametime?
For some reason, Eydoor memory and history does not extend beyond the British arrival. Truth is, there were no Dhulbahante in Nugaal before 1850s. The majority of the wells in Nugaal were either dugged by Gallas or Isaaq. Go to Nugaal and find out who dugged those wells?
In 1854, when we came to Gar-adag area, HJ and HY settlement were already there.
You should read the memoir of 1st British traveller and where Dhulbahante were at that time. We were not in Nugaal at that time. Well, since Isaaq history does not extend beyond British, you twist and bragged about the air you breathed during his presence


Udun
War Caynabe brought a HY/HJ/Ogaden poets as sources. Each re-inforcing his claim. That you have lost alot of land to HJ. You havent shared shred of evidence to show that Dhulbahnte have taken any land of HJ..
Your telling us that most off Dhulbahntes land belonged to HJ/HY and that Dhulbahnte did not live in any of its current regions?

That Garadag and all the other towns HJ claim to have evicted u off, was theres to begin with. Where did Dhulbahnte live?
I appreciate you guys have to put a spin on your real history and hide the truth, so that everybody follows this silly narration of you guys being some sort of warriors. But we northerners know the truth. Ogaden and most Isaaq's. You guys are/have/will be the whipping boys of HJ. You can spin it how you want.
The HJ came down from the mountains and took all, if not most of your land. They currently occupy Las anood, your capital through their surrogate forces, which includes your own people holding the occupation in place. Even if as you claim you won the last war in Kashaale, the fact of the matter is the fighting is in your home and the prize is your land. You have kept Buhoodle away from Somaliland but it will meet the same fate as Las anood sooner or later.
Skywalker,
My great great great ....... great grandfather Dhulbahante was killed by Gallas in a forest called Xaabooyin that is near Sarmaanyo (a Dhulbahante town). We settle there today.
My other Grreat ..... great grandfather named Garaad Shirshoore Habarwaa is buried in a well called Kalcad in Xaysimo Nugaaleed that is part of the Taleex district. We settled there today.
The son of Garaad Shirshoore Habarwaa, Mohamuud Garaad is buried in Dhadhiin Garaad that is near Fiqifuliye, Sanaag. We still settle there.
My other Great grandfather Ugaaryahan died in a place called Jirar that is part of Taleex district. We still settle there.
My other Great grand awoowe Naalaye Axmed is buried in a place called Xabaala-Cas, that is between Awrboogays and Xudun. We stil settle there.
The son of Naalaye Axmed, Cali Naalaye, is buried in Xabaala-Cas that is between Awrboogays and Xudun. We still there.
Today, Dhulbahante settle from Walwaal to Jiidali. That is an expansion, not loosing territory.
Ok tell me how I lost territory?
I need all Isaaqs to post where their grandfathers are buried. We will see who lost territory.
The facts I have given you show that we only expanded our horrizon. In Nugaal-Godan, most of the wells were either dug by Gallas or Isaaq. That is truth.
You folks are just repeating the air you breathed when the British arrived, and I stood up like men, and you hid behind him and followed wherever he settled
But again I still gotta laugh at this calaacal:
Marna miyaynaan rogayn ceebta waa la iska reebaaye
I mean that is really a classic calaacal.
Eydoors, keep inventing history that revolves around the British arrival
