Habar Yonose is declaring their own state

[abdikarim86]

Come on khalid ...you paint an extreme picture.
It's only dislike and suspicion.

On a another topic ...How are you finding H-town.
Goorma kuugu dambaysay?
How is the weather?

Sawiro ma inoo qaaday?

[Advo]

Lol advo khalid is not married to daarood. Advo is a daarood from somalia he was born in somaliland he hates somaliland if he could he woudl wage a war against somaliland. Right now his elders are in mogadisho making threats how they going to fight against somaliland.

[Khalid Ali]

Right now abdi karim there is no war going on but we don't know what the future holds

I predict a full scale war one bigger than the one in the 80s or the 19 century

The reason right now things are calm its because somalia is still a mess foreing troops are every where in somalia

But here in hargeysa every one has his eyes wide open and ears


As for the pictures I have taken lots of pics saaxib

I am going to buy usb stick and a sony laptop and than post it stay tuned

[MidriGeez]

Khalid is bullsh!ting to Midrigeez

Khalid if the hate was that strong u would not have married from the Daroods lol, to be honest there's no real hate just deep mistrust. We as somalis only remember qabiil in two occasions politics and marriage, asides from those two subjects there's no one gonna ask or bother you, for hundreds of years when clans use to massacre each other for whatever desert reason, the old men from both sides would sit under trees and solve the issue using xeer laws and that would be it.

There was no grudges.

Why would He lie??? I didn't know he is married to a darood.

[MidriGeez]

This is what I think the the bejas came from the sabeans but not all of them

Saying Beja are Sabeans is like saying Somali Bantu are isaaq, completely different.

Only those from eritrea and sudan but those from egypt are natives of egypt who was that muslimegyptian king was he believing in the religion of the israelites. And they have no relations with the amhaara apart from the sabean origin

The beja in egypt has been there longer, the one In eritrea moved after the beja in egypt.

Tell me more about history the kids of eritrea learn in high schools about. Pre colonial eritrea how much of it is is changed when it was part of ethiopia.

They learn about Eritrean History from ancient times to recent times including the war of liberation, Patriot figures along eritrean History and how the people regardless of their religious belief united to defend the land. It has changed since the ethiopian era as all Eritrean languages are spoken and taught freely, amharic is no longer spoken sometimes allowed in few area's so today anyone under 30 Years old don't know amharic. Basically history is taught to kids in Eritrean languages based on Eritrean side of the events and facts.

Yes but tplf ws ur idea but the thing is you're enemy ethiopia is still there but I underrstand that it was the best option to do it.
Right now tplf is still running ethiopia and had a destructive war with eritrea and still occupying parts of ur land

They will fall soon, Meles is gone as it seems and TPLF are tearing each other up from the inside, we will get our land but we would let the liberation front which topples TPLF give it back to us

Yes big parts of the ogaden region were part of somaliland the english gave it to haile sellesie
The ciises are not really bad yes they helped us during our war with somalia.
They joined ranks with our boys and shed blood with us.

I am still not a big fan of Issa.

The daarood and isaaq were united for only 30 years their union caused a big distruction of both somalia and somaliland
Never ever were isaaq and daarood united under one leadership pre 1960
Their mistrust hate and animosity killed somalia. Because they brought their ancient war to modern and urban towns with modern
Wapeons. The only tribes in the horn that have this ugly culture is the daarood and isaaq
If an isaaq kills a daarood some where. A daarood will go to the nearest shop were some random isaaqs are and kill a few isaaqs
The hawiyes and rahan weyn and dir tribes don't ever do that. Its just the isaaq and daarood
Lol advo khalid is not married to daarood. Advo is a daarood from somalia he was born in somaliland he hates somaliland if he could he woudl wage a war against somaliland. Right now his elders are in mogadisho making threats how they going to fight against somaliland. But the thing is the daarods back is broken today they are weaker than ever.
The xeer of peace he taks about his entirly a somaliland culture people from somalia never do that
THey love fancy hotels in kenya and ethiopia or djbouti and want the international community
To watch them make peace Xeer nabadeed peace deal under a tree is how the somaliland tribes made peace and stability in somaliland.

It seems that there is alot of Feelings buried according to what you claiming, i like when peace is made within each other, if hostility breaks out between the isaaq and darood who would you think the Hawiya would sympathise with more???

[Khalid Ali]

So if they were not sabeans or maybe related so sabeans they were related to the ancient egyptians and migrated from Egypt to sudan and than further to eritrea and mixed with the Tigres and other Eritrean tribes thats the best logic what is their haplagroup the bejas that could explain allot do you know that.

Do Eritrean kids learn allot about the ELF and how it was the first rebel movement how is it explained to the kids how the two rebel groups developed through out the 30 year war.
Also how is the Eritrean generel viewed that was for a short period the leader of Ethiopia and are they taught that in schools.

The daroods dream every day about the destruction of Somaliland everything what i tell you Midrgeez is based on facts everything not a single thing is my opinion if you just visit daarood websites they will call for the destruction of Somaliland . There is even one website that is called wardheernews.com it brings out daily articles about their anti Somaliland feelings i mean on daily bases its in english u should it read it somtimes. Midrgeez if Some one wants to destroy Eritrea do you consider them a friend or an ally or an enemy. It runs deep the animosity between isaaq and daarood its not something of today or recent it goes way back to ancient times.
This is how a daarood feels about isaaq
viewtopic.php?f=249&t=309713

As for the Hawiyes the Hawiyes are a tribe from Somalia we do not share a border with them we nver clashed with them nor have any bad feelings towards them. But the Hawiyes will stay neutral because the darood are their brothers of Somalia. They share the same country same cities they intermarry allot. Some people say they will sympathise with isaaq but it depends on the subclan of the Hawiye or the person There are Some hawiye that despise daarood but eventually they share the same county and they need to work together. Historically the Isaaq helped the hawiye fight against darood sultans in the 19 century some hawiyes never forgot the help they got from the isaaqs we send them guns and ammunition.

[BankiiTuuyo]

meseret@ and you have your own jew loving sii'l

[MidriGeez]

So if they were not sabeans or maybe related so sabeans they were related to the ancient egyptians and migrated from Egypt to sudan and than further to eritrea and mixed with the Tigres and other Eritrean tribes thats the best logic what is their haplagroup the bejas that could explain allot do you know that.

Not really, the beja split way before egypt in the land of canaan (palestine/Jordan etc) some went south to yemen who mixed there in yemen and some went to egypt, some even remained there are few dark palestinain/jordanians or brown colours some even have surnames like Bejawi etc. The beja who are in Eritrea came through yemen from canaanite while the beja in egypt came through sinai, the beja in sudan came from both eritrea through yemen and sinai through east and south east egypt, its like your somalilander neighbour who is isaaq in hargeesa he went to yemen crossing the sea and you went to egypt through eritrea/east sudan, then your nieghbour moved from yemen to jordan and you moved from egypt to palestine so you are nighbours again reuniting after say 2000 Years but both took a different route. The best example for this is the Hidareb Tribe who are the purest beja part of the bani amer's in eritrea they came from yemen as part of the beja migration and were known to the arabs as Al-hidrabi, today they reside in Eritrea but with the bisharin beja who are in south east egypt they are considered the OG'S of the beja people if you like.

Do Eritrean kids learn allot about the ELF and how it was the first rebel movement how is it explained to the kids how the two rebel groups developed through out the 30 year war.

Kids are taught of Eritrean Figures more than Liberation fronts, Hamid idris awate,wolde,ibrahim sultan,osaman saleh sabbe,isisas afwerki etc, they don't teach kids the split and its politics as they want kids to feel united and focus on the bigger picture which is Eritrea, as they grow older they would know the story behind them, They would be taught about the invasion of Ethiopia and the struggle for 30 years till the liberation day without mentioning ELF/EPLF etc and all its internal specific Information, that is why you would see Eritreans whether they are muslim or christians today who would defend eritrea's liberation as a whole it doesn't matter whether ELF OR EPLF acheived it, but as they learn more they know that the ELF have started the liberation war and passed the paton to the EPLF To finish the job.

Also how is the Eritrean generel viewed that was for a short period the leader of Ethiopia and are they taught that in schools.

They hated them and still hate them, every new generation hates them and ethiopia even more, Hailesalise was hated more by the Muslims because he was a racist worthless Monkey who butchered Muslims even is salaat el eid, he used to have his troops go to the muslim villages raping them and stealing sheeps,cows etc, they even uder to force muslim shiekhs to strip naked and make him watch while they rape his daughers, sometimes they would force him to eat or drink when he is fasting in ramadan, hailesalise would kill muslims for no reason he was Eritrea's Muslim public enemy number one, they hated him more than shaytan himself, that is why the muslims had enough and started with hamid idris awate firing the first shot to kill an ethiopian soldier who was misbehaving. Mengistu was cruel but to everyone including Christians eritreans, he would kill anyone if he suspects he has sympathy to Eritrea, if you are heard even humming a patriotic rebel song you and your family would dead, if you tuning the radio and while tuning the channel accidently stopped at the rebel radio station your were execeuted, If the liberation army defeat ethiopian in a battle the remaining ethiopian soldiers would return to town and grab all the kids on the street playing around and line them up and run them over with a tank that is no lie. Ethiopians Treated eritreans like nobody and only wanted the land, if you have a sister who an ethiopian colonel likes then he would use his power to kill the whole family and kidnapp her and rape her, Imagine if the girl is a muslim. Ethiopians are animals wallahi but cowards in the same time, if i tell you the stories of ethiopians what they did in 30 Years let alone the history you would feel sick.

The daroods dream every day about the destruction of Somaliland everything what i tell you Midrgeez is based on facts everything not a single thing is my opinion if you just visit daarood websites they will call for the destruction of Somaliland . There is even one website that is called wardheernews.com it brings out daily articles about their anti Somaliland feelings i mean on daily bases its in english u should it read it somtimes. Midrgeez if Some one wants to destroy Eritrea do you consider them a friend or an ally or an enemy. It runs deep the animosity between isaaq and daarood its not something of today or recent it goes way back to ancient times.
This is how a daarood feels about isaaq
viewtopic.php?f=249&t=309713

Wow that is Big man. do you think they mean it though or Just "shisha and Tea" talk???

As for the Hawiyes the Hawiyes are a tribe from Somalia we do not share a border with them we nver clashed with them nor have any bad feelings towards them. But the Hawiyes will stay neutral because the darood are their brothers of Somalia. They share the same country same cities they intermarry allot. Some people say they will sympathise with isaaq but it depends on the subclan of the Hawiye or the person There are Some hawiye that despise daarood but eventually they share the same county and they need to work together. Historically the Isaaq helped the hawiye fight against darood sultans in the 19 century some hawiyes never forgot the help they got from the isaaqs we send them guns and ammunition.



Hmmm i see they would be stuck between a rock and a hard place i guess. Hopefully they don't have to. Let me ask you about ogaden, do somaliland have a territory dispute with ethiopia regarding part of ogaden?? i mean just say ethiopia goes into chaos and ogaden future comes to light and becomes uncertain would somaliland get involved in any discussion or plan regarding Ogaden?? if ogaden wants to become independent or join somalia would somaliland have something to say about this?? was some part of ogaden with somaliland before the british gave it to ethiopia? especially the area's with isaaq population?

[Khalid Ali]

so the bejas are ethnically the same and they just took different routes when reaching africa makes sense tell me more about the era the time they started migrating and the time differences between eritrean bejas and egyptian and sudan bejas


Its good that that eritrean kids learn more about figures and heroes instead of old politics and differences between their people very smart did you went to school in eritrea. In the early 90s
Because when they get older they will just know the whole picture

The eritrean general that was working for haille sellesie is than really seen as a n enemy how come then some eritreans don't hate his ass for being a traitor what is this mix feelings people have about this fella

As for somalilanders in the ogaden region the thing is when the brits redefined the borders
1954 the anglo somaliland abesynian border 60 percent of the isaaq territory was give to the ethiopians
It was like some kind of gift the brits gave the ethiopians because ethiopians helped the english fight the italians

When ever the ethiopian army clashes with isaaqs in ethiopia the isaaqs in somaliland just cross the border
And assit their cousins in ethiopia with arms and logistics and medical treatment

Well as for the future of the ogaden region if its get independence joining somalia is out of the questions
The daaroods in ethiopia have no interest in joining with somalia they are treated like shit in somalia
Their own daarood cousins hand them over to ethiopia.

But even if it came to It either we keep the borders as they are present today or we can keep the borders of pre 1954 that included tha the northern part of the ogaden region into somaliland.

But its hard to discuss this first the region needs to be free of ethiopia

[MidriGeez]

so the bejas are ethnically the same and they just took different routes when reaching africa makes sense tell me more about the era the time they started migrating and the time differences between eritrean bejas and egyptian and sudan bejas

Correct. The bisharin Beja and most of the other east sudanese Beja moved into the area from 4000-5000 B.c Till about 1000 B.c, while The beja who crossed through further south like yemen and South arabia Moved to Eritrea starting from 2000 b.c Till 1000 Ad. they linked up to occupy most of the western coast of The red sea today. The only difference is the Beja who moved through Eritrea picked up a language which is Tigre today, Many believe it was due to their invasion of babel in 1500 b.c Creating the Third Dynasty Of babel. I mean think about it Tigre/Geez is the only semitic language that has no Grouping and its identical to The akkadian language who were invaded By People who were identified as the closest thing to other beja group in canaan and ancient egypt. Whats more intresting is that The kassites or ta xasa of babel, canaanite Beja and The new kingdom Pharohs all claimed to be from the same ancestory which is Sipta (Sabta fourth son of Kush), Sabta and sabteca 4th and 5th son of kush are Linked By many Historians and ancient jews to be the ancestors of people who lives in most of the western side of the red sea coast today especially Eritrea. Sabta is believed to be the ancestor of Beja people today while sabteca are believed to be the ancestor of The afars especially the red sea afars.

ThInk about it ancient egyptians were allies and kins with the canaanites beja and Kassites, they spoke a very close language, looked the same and had similar culture, The kassites were known to the egyptians as Ta Xasa, Xasa is the official Name of Tigre In sudan today they would say do you speak xasa Not tigre. I remember an article where they tested a pahroh from 18th dynasty without the permission of the egyptians and the concluded that the dna was 86% Identical to the Tigre people of Eritrea. (i will try to find it it was by a british egyptologist). Dna of New kingdom pharohs are impossible These days, I lived in Egypt and i know very well what that would do to the light skin population to know they came to egypt through conquest it would shatter them that is why the egyptains won't allow to find out what we know. You will always see them allowing testing on the 13th to 17th Dynasty Kings because they were hyksos well everyone know they were from syrian and semitic. Any dynasty prior to the 13th and after the 17th is No way Jose.


Its good that that eritrean kids learn more about figures and heroes instead of old politics and differences between their people very smart did you went to school in eritrea. In the early 90s
Because when they get older they will just know the whole picture

Yeah that is smart by them i would say.

The eritrean general that was working for haille sellesie is than really seen as a n enemy how come then some eritreans don't hate his ass for being a traitor what is this mix feelings people have about this fella.

Overall they do accept him, His name was Gen Andom, he was the one who persoanlly Killed hailesalise but soon turned against Mengistu, some Eritrean liberation fighters were in Ethiopian army, some even held high position before they turned and marched to sahel and joined the struggle, Andom died fighting against mengistu soldiers who he sent to kill him, he took 2 dozen ethiopian soldiers before he died, He Killed him because he opposed Mengistu plan of attacking Eritreans and forcing them to accept the status quo, Andom helped alot of Eritreans especially ELF fighters and were trying to see if he can end the war in Eritrea, he wanted a compromise where eritrea has a total autonomy but mengist refused so he started helping the liberation in secret and even made alot of Eritrean pow escape into sudan, like many other eritreans who fought for ethiopia and joined the libeartion front he relaised it late that there was no hope for Eritrea to be joined with ethiopia. So basically he did make up for it abit but some would say too little too late. Anyway i think somali don;t like him wasn't he the one who fought in the ogaden war and defeated somalia in the first Ogaden war??

As for somalilanders in the ogaden region the thing is when the brits redefined the borders
1954 the anglo somaliland abesynian border 60 percent of the isaaq territory was give to the ethiopians
It was like some kind of gift the brits gave the ethiopians because ethiopians helped the english fight the italians

60%?? Wow that is big. I can picture Somaliland with 60% of ogaden. Massive wallahi.

When ever the ethiopian army clashes with isaaqs in ethiopia the isaaqs in somaliland just cross the border
And assit their cousins in ethiopia with arms and logistics and medical treatment

But i heard that somaliland were handing over Fighters to Ethiopians from the ogaden region, i was confused then i thought how could they hand in their brothers to ethiopians who we all know what they would do with them.

Well as for the future of the ogaden region if its get independence joining somalia is out of the questions
The daaroods in ethiopia have no interest in joining with somalia they are treated like shit in somalia
Their own daarood cousins hand them over to ethiopia.

So you are saying if that happens somaliland would object?? at least for the isaaq population that lives in Ogaden??

But even if it came to It either we keep the borders as they are present today or we can keep the borders of pre 1954 that included tha the northern part of the ogaden region into somaliland.

How would it look pre 1954?? 60% to somaliland??

But its hard to discuss this first the region needs to be free of ethiopia

Coming soon Waryaa, meles is about to die, Tigrayans would go back to their shells and care about tigray, and the strongest armed group outside tigray would be ONLF they would even occupy addis if they want to let alone decide what to do with ogaden, the amhara are powerless. I hope ONLF don't be stupid again like in 1993 and trust the habesh again of giving freedom,autonomy and wealth blah blah and turn on them like meles did. I mentioned this would happen when i joined This forum and people were laughing at me, watch and see.

[Khalid Ali]

Yes so the general was part of haille sellesie govt before that he was ranked by the emperor him self He was a christian the Emperor uses Christian Eritreans against the Eritrean Muslims mostly ELF in the first stage of the war.Yes he was part of the war in 1964 late President Adan abdulla osman declared agianst the Ethiopians but we didnt lose that war we just dint capture lots of land like we did in 1977.

As for the Ogaden region yes melez death will change allot but it will be race towards addis and only the strongest can get things done. And if shit breaks out you lot can get badme back.

and Somaliland would've been very big if the northern section of the Ogaden is added as it was before 1954 but if the rest of the people of the ogaden region says lets delcare our own republic and let the territory be as it was after 1954. I dont think many isaaq will object because.the Ethiopians are cleaned from the region mission accomplished i say amara u should never under estemate them midrgeez they can just come out of the corner out of no where. the Amaras are deadly amaras should be kept away from power. Some amaras say remember when yohannes was killed menelik took over and when menelik died sellesie took over thats how its going to be they said when zanawi dies we are going take over and after that leader another amara will lead Ethiopia. They are dreaming right now they are disorganized there are some opposition in ur country sitting and waiting for what to do next but it doesnt look good the oromos can only demonstrate they are useless that leaves the ONLF they can do it but they need to be ready they need to run for addis its now or never. no peace and other bull crap like in the 90s. Time will tell my tigre friend time will telll.

[gurey25]

With amhara you need to include the oromo, gurage and many many more who are amharasized.
I think the amhara camp is the strongest and largest.

The Tigray need to launch a pre-emptive attack and weaken them.

any weakening of Ethiopia benefits amhara, this is why i support tigray.

dont kid yourself, the tigray fall means 100% amhara victory and bad news for everyone in the horn,

years later we will all be dreaming about the good old days of melez

[MidriGeez]

Yes so the general was part of haille sellesie govt before that he was ranked by the emperor him self He was a christian the Emperor uses Christian Eritreans against the Eritrean Muslims mostly ELF in the first stage of the war.Yes he was part of the war in 1964 late President Adan abdulla osman declared agianst the Ethiopians but we didnt lose that war we just dint capture lots of land like we did in 1977.

Exactly, hailesailse trick was to use the religion card. 1964 Ogaden war that is it he was leading the army then i think, the 1960's had alot of eritrean officers in the ethiopian army by the 1970's most of them joined The ELF or escaped to sudan as alot of them started spying for the liberation fronts.

As for the Ogaden region yes melez death will change allot but it will be race towards addis and only the strongest can get things done. And if shit breaks out you lot can get badme back.

It will be a race to addis, But apart from Tigrayans only the ONLF can achieve it due to their size of the army they have. AS FOR BADEME we can get it anytime we want two dozen soldiers can go and capture bademe its very easy it has a plain field and almost undefendable but bademe is a trap by the ethiopians as they just want to restart the war with Eritrea to save their domestic problems, So we said keep Bademe it will be handed back to us when the time comes as the ruling has rewarded us with the area and town anyway, why Fight someone who wants to fight??? Just go behind him and cut him into 10 pieces and what better way to start it than pressing on the old wound Ogaden. Many people underestimate The long term plans of Eritreans sometimes ethiopians like to be in a rush take a town and sing and dance about glorious ethiopia even though a group of soldiers can take that town, ethiopians like to short term glory actions go into somalia to impress their american masters and run away a year later, Eritreans are like a camel take our time for a decisive goal even if it takes 30-40 Years make sure no mistakes and the plan is studied well, but when it is achieved its total victory.

and Somaliland would've been very big if the northern section of the Ogaden is added as it was before 1954 but if the rest of the people of the ogaden region says lets delcare our own republic and let the territory be as it was after 1954. I dont think many isaaq will object because

Would other somali do you think object for most ogaden to be part of somaliland?? like darood as it would mean a massive land size.

the Ethiopians are cleaned from the region mission accomplished i say amara u should never under estemate them midrgeez they can just come out of the corner out of no where. the Amaras are deadly amaras should be kept away from power.

Amhara are useless, they sing,shout and dance alot but rely on other ethnic groups to do the front line battles, they will not taste power until ethiopia falls apart and they only have power to their area, Eritrea will make sure of that, they have a habit of changing minds all the time, the amhara are only brave when they know they are favourites but they don't have the balls to step up and fight when they are under dogs, they would just kneel and beg and act like miskeen.


Some amaras say remember when yohannes was killed menelik took over and when menelik died sellesie took over thats how its going to be they said when zanawi dies we are going take over and after that leader another amara will lead Ethiopia.

Exactly what i said the amhara only are brave and fight when there is a vacum or the fight is favoured for them to win, if the Tigrayans would've retreat back to tigray and you see amhara trying to take over addis you would bet your life that Eritreans dressed In onlf uniforms among ONLF RANKS would be sprinting to addis to Kick them out. this would be deemed an imminent National security for Eritreans and no chance would be taken with them in power again.

They are dreaming right now they are disorganized there are some opposition in ur country sitting and waiting for what to do next but it doesnt look good the oromos can only demonstrate they are useless that leaves the ONLF they can do it but they need to be ready they need to run for addis its now or never. no peace and other bull crap like in the 90s. Time will tell my tigre friend time will telll.

Most of them amhara opposition are in Eritrea and some of them are said to have been executed by the Eritreans because of their extra activities like thinking of invading Eritrea again, some even were spying, while others had a stance on linking eritrea and ethiopia again after woyane is toppled, how dumb can they be going to eritrea having this thought its a death sentence no matter who you are and how big and important you are to the opposition Group. The ONLF in Eritrea are the only group who are taken seriously, they train there seperate from everyone else, they are in secret you will never find photos on the net for them, and they are the only group who the leaders are given Eritrean passports and Only report to the president himself while the other groups have a colonel or even a private overseeing their activities, Look at it carefully the way it set up with opposition groups in Eritrea is only to break ethiopia up using ONLF as the main force and the rest to secure their own provinces, Can't you see Some ONLF soldiers have the same uniform as the Eritrean army, The amhara are kept as the weakest because they tend to be more believers in united ethiopia and who blames them if ethiopia breaks up they will be worthless in their corner, ONLF can be the key to ensuring that Each region would split and that is why they are the main force.

[MidriGeez]

With amhara you need to include the oromo, gurage and many many more who are amharasized.
I think the amhara camp is the strongest and largest.

Oromo are different they have OLF, Gurage are more traders and merchants than Fighters. Amhara camp is the biggest but not strongest, they don't fight for long, they might fight for one hour or two and retreat or give up, In ethiopia today 2 people would actually fight The tigrayans and Ogadeni, Eritreans are empowering ONLF but Tigrayans are an obstacle so TPDM are created with 30,000 Fighters to counter TPLF in Tigray, once they are busy with each other ONLF only hurdle is the amhara which is no problem, Oromo would side mostly with ONLF, all it has to be done is place Khat in the corner of each ONLF fighter Mouth and let the somali Instict in fighting take over, i doubt amhara would last few days Non sleep Fighting, they would be lucky to last few hours, Tigray would be busy tplf VS tpdm while eritrea will be directing Traffic and i would guess that the whole 400,000-500,000 Eritrean army including Reserves would be called up and on high alert to make sure things go according to plan, Tigrayans would difinately attack Eritrea but it would be like throwing a rock into a mountain by then and it will be "a three days to addis" Like in 1991 this time we will make sure we will stay untill all ethiopia is fragmented and broken up.

The Tigray need to launch a pre-emptive attack and weaken them.

The tigrayans would be Fighting TPDM who numbers around 30,000 Today and growing, ONLF VS amhara would be the battle of addis while tigrayans would be fighting for their homeland province. Tigrayans would be too busy to save their home province, amhara would hardly have an allies maybe Kenya, The onlf would have all somali + all arabs including Egypt+ Sudan + Eritrea + Maybe Djbouti. Regional support soo strong with even Eritrean army for backup is the need a push to addis. The trick is to capture power, chill out for few months, get the ogadeni to hold referndum opting for independence, then stamp that with the ethiopian stamp while in power so politcally it means that the authority in Ethiopia (which is ogadeni anyway lol) granted the seperation, then loot and steal everything and go back to ogaden in time to receive the foriegn officials to raise the ogaden flag as an independent territory.

any weakening of Ethiopia benefits amhara, this is why i support tigray.

Both are as bad as each other. Hopefully soon they will be fighting each other once ethiopia is broken up.

dont kid yourself, the tigray fall means 100% amhara victory and bad news for everyone in the horn,

Amahara are never strong without the support of other ethnic groups. if tplf falls Eritrea will make sure they will have more enemies than friends inside ethiopia.

years later we will all be dreaming about the good old days of melez

Axozbillah, i hope he rots in hell.

[gurey25]

Midri y brother you are underestimating the amhara.
They the the only united block, the oromo population is twice as large as the amhara but they are not one block they are divided.
only the afranqallo and some others in blae and arsi are independent minded andn think of themselves as Oromo, islam is the main factor here, but they are weak.
and only make up 1/3 of the oromo.

the other 2/3 either think they are Ethiopian and think they should be incharge or they believe they are ethiopians first and oromos second and do not mind amhara bineg in charge.

trust me the Oromos are useless expect for the muslims bordering the somalis the afran qallo if you can launch a movement.

The rest are 100% to fight for and die for Amhara.
This includes all the semi - amharazed people in the southern peoples kilil , i,e the gurage, sidama etc etc.

all these people will come under the amhara.

you are talking about the amhara mobilizing 80% of the population of Ethiopia.

If you allow therm even a little breathing space during an ethiopian civil war they will have an amhara empire stronger than melez ethiopia.

You eritreans are playing with fire.

The ONLF are tiny you think that fierceness will win battles?
the mind wins battles and the smart amahara have 10 times the manpower to throw at anyone else including some skilled manpower.
You should know that the top technical officers in the Ethiopian army are amhara, those who maintain the tanks and supply, those who maintain the planes
those who do all the paperwork that allows some half trained Tigray general to issue orders all are amhara.

The Ethiopian army runs on amhara officers, and if Ethiopia collpases you ahve al;l that manpower go to the amhara faction.
backed by hordes of stupid oromo who will charge your trenches so that an amhara lord will rule his family forever.


trust me melez is best for now.