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*Nobleman* wrote:

Shirib wrote:
Nobleman, come on you're far smarter than this, you can't ignore 80 years of colonialism in Congo, that explains why Congo is worst off than Luxembourg. Sure leadership is part of it, but the main reason is colonialism.

It's illegal and punishable by death to speak out against the King of Saudi Arabia, so yea put your happy smiley face on, it's not as if you have much choice. In terms of freedoms, the House of Saud makes people Mubarak, Assad, and co, look like saints. Only difference is Allah blessed Saudi Arabia with the worlds largest reserve of the worlds most traded commodity, so they can go around build some extra cool sky scrapers.

Yes Exactly bro your proving my argument. I said that prosperity comes down to more than resources, your argument was resources is the single and only factor contributing to economic success. I acknowledge that both natural resources and good governance plays it part. Again I believe that the governance in Saudi is good because they are able to extract and manage their resources to benefit their population, who mostly have a very comfortable standard of living. Ignore the western definition of good governance, where human rights of foreign nationals plays a big part.

Also you are unable to provide any concrete evidence to suggest that the house saud inhibit the freedom of their population, much of your argument is based on your opinion. Finally I do acknowledge that the saudi govt is far from perfect.

Substance wrote:

*Nobleman* wrote: The thing is no one will condemn this because according to them its not the "backwards and inhumane" Saudis committing these crimes

Condemn it? These people will say God bless America.

Thuganomics wrote:

Substance wrote:

*Nobleman* wrote: The thing is no one will condemn this because according to them its not the "backwards and inhumane" Saudis committing these crimes

Condemn it? These people will say God bless America.

True:And they have done in the past

Enlightened~Sista wrote:
Bal eeg siduu marwalba wax u leeyahay, markii hore wuxuu lahaa bahalaad ka dhalateyn, dadka kale maka hadli kartaan idinkoo Somalia udhshay haddana wuxuu leeyahay to let himself off the hook, naa si edeb ley baan afghanigee emaraatigu dilayayey uga warrameye.

Wuxuu na leeyahay don't point fingers when yours are dirty, why can't he follow what he preaches, afghanigaas maxaaka 15 ahaa?

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abdi.ismail wrote:

Shirib wrote:

*Nobleman* wrote:Why should the House of Saud go? I'm pretty sure the overwhelming majority of their population love and appreciate them. Why should me or you say how a country should be governed? Somalia is a 3rd world country because of incompetent leaders and a population even worse.

Saudi Arabia have been able to manage these resources through good governance.

Cause it's a terrible monarchy, that has not only held back progress of the people in Saudi Arabia but the Muslim world as a whole. The House of Saud must fall, they're lackey's for western interest, and fuel the US war machine.

Somalia being a 3rd world country isn't because of leadership, if Somalia had the resources Saudi Arabia had it would be a very prosperous country. Somalia is a 3rd world country because of a lack of natural resources, there isn't a single proven quantifiable natural resource in Somalia. There's only food, fishing, and livestock.

Saudi Arabia is able to manage those resources through American oil companies, and the US petro dollar. There is no good governance, the whole country is run by a single family. The country is all a government bureaucracy. Their laws oppress people if they aren't a Saudi and treat them as if they were animals rather than humans.

You are fcking kidding, right? Right...?

Advo wrote:It is well documented in the forum certain members have an ax to grind against Saudi-Arabia, people like me who have done further analysis believe the issues goes way deeper and the country is just a escape goat. You have enlightensister who has confessed on numerous occasions of not wearing hijab but also acknowledging her choice of NEVER wearing it, aswell as hundreds of other extremely quasi liberal beliefs. This is a person who's clearly targeting a more conservative society.

So excuse me if I question their motives....

On the other hand if other members have legit concerns or problems with the kingdom and made a topic about it, I will be all ears.

Alchemist wrote:

Advo wrote:It is well documented in the forum certain members have an ax to grind against Saudi-Arabia, people like me who have done further analysis believe the issues goes way deeper and the country is just a escape goat. You have enlightensister who has confessed on numerous occasions of not wearing hijab but also acknowledging her choice of NEVER wearing it, aswell as hundreds of other extremely quasi liberal beliefs. This is a person who's clearly targeting a more conservative society.

So excuse me if I question their motives....

On the other hand if other members have legit concerns or problems with the kingdom and made a topic about it, I will be all ears.

Yup

tightrope wrote:I CAN'T FOR PUNTLAND TO BECOME AN OIL STATE, SO WE CAN ABUSE SOUTHIE AND FOREIGN WORKERS!

blackstars25 wrote:lol i see advo is still spending more time questioning peoples motives rather than the substance of their arguments. lame and old

abdi.ismail wrote:If Saudi Arabia is wiped off the map, it will be sorely missed - I can't say the same for Somalia. Im sorry if the truth hurts.

TheblueNwhite wrote:

abdi.ismail wrote:If Saudi Arabia is wiped off the map, it will be sorely missed - I can't say the same for Somalia. Im sorry if the truth hurts.

If you are ever teaching kids what BULLSHIT is, just give them the above example.

lol@sorely missed. Yeah in Pluto maybe.

Advo wrote:

blackstars25 wrote:lol i see advo is still spending more time questioning peoples motives rather than the substance of their arguments. lame and old

Alot of Snetters are good heart members who always give people benefit of the doubt, I on the other hand am more skeptical, I can see right through decorations and chicken-stuffing. If it was up to me, You and Yalaxow would not have a posting career here, I can tolerate enlightensista even though she's heavily misguided.

Advo wrote:You have enlightensister who has confessed on numerous occasions of not wearing hijab but also acknowledging her choice of NEVER wearing it...