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Re: Presidential Candidate From Somaliland state

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Cirwaaq wrote:
Mondey wrote:
closet secessionist I see you're coming out already, Take you're meaningless trash you keep shitting over and over again to where it belongs you piece of shit and stop hiding behind the veil of Greater Somalia as a snake like would never know what unity means. what a shameless disgraceful character you are do not post the blue :som: flag smiley again nijaasyahay
by the way if el professore reads any of the shit you post here wallahi he'll slap the shit outta you

Dude Me and the Prof share many views on the nature of Somali Unity which is what :som: stands for and that is Somalis from Djbouti, Kenya, Ethiopia, Somaliland and Somalia.

I don't have the patience to school you on foresight even though i sense that you may lack the capacity for foresight altogether. Forgiving me for even indulging you in dialogue regarding matters that require sensitivity to temporal causality and it's inter-connectivity of man's metaphysical dependence.

In the most basic language available so you may understand Allah(swt) has already decided whether this UNION continues or not. We are only actors following a set course and all signs point to DISSOLUTION of the 1960 UNION and Prof Samatar would agree with me on this observation.

Had you the ability to comprehend i would then begin to indulge in the mechanics of Post DISSOLUTION and how Somalis cannot escape their interactions and coexistence.

The future is bright the Future is XAQ So relax. What ever is ment to happen is going to happen and cannot happen any other way
Liar, el professore is straight forward guy and he never hides behind this :som: to entertain this :sland: actually he is not even concerned about the so called greater 5 Somalia show me where he said that? so would you stop lying blatantly please! you on the other hand are a snake a two faced one. you don't posses any knowledge or proper manners for a simple debate yet you have the audacity to school others and you actually call your mumbling and silly photoshops a dialogue? :lol: you're an idiot sxb!
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Re: Presidential Candidate From Somaliland state

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I am allergic to people who claim to speak for others. You have no knowledge of Prof Samatar's Vision.

You claim Prof Samatar has no interest in Somaliweyn when infact he is PAN-AFRICANIST and would like to see closer relationship between all african states. Prof understand the desperate need to build long lasting bridges between communities be they between somali regions or the greater african family. If you wish to hold the Moral high ground when in conversation with me then at the very least contain your emotional outbursts and reason like a civilized person.

Alahu yaclam what tomorrow holds and my advice to you as a brother is stop tarnishing the name of prof Samatar you are as destructive to his image as Ximanxoolo is to Far-Marjo's.
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Re: Presidential Candidate From Somaliland state

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Mondey wrote::-@

closet secessionist I see you're coming out already :lol: Take you're meaningless trash you keep shitting over and over again to where it belongs you piece of shit and stop hiding behind the veil of Greater Somalia as a snake like would never know what unity means. what a shameless disgraceful character you are do not post the blue :som: flag smiley again nijaasyahay :arrow:
by the way if el professore reads any of the shit you post here wallahi he'll slap the shit outta you :lol:
As a person from Boorama, Awdal part of what was once considered "British Somaliland", and today part of the Somali Republic through a legal and consummated Act of Union believe this farce called CIrwaaq is anything but a true secessionist?
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Re: Presidential Candidate From Somaliland state

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As a person from Boorama, Awdal part of what was once considered "British Somaliland", and today part of the Somali Republic through a legal and consummated Act of Union believe this farce called CIrwaaq is anything but a true secessionist?
Are you pursuing the believe i am Gurey?

Everyone is entitled to own fantasy if it soothes the nightmares of reality. Had Mondey truly been from Awdal or for that matter been related to Prof Samatar he would have represented the good prof in better light.

Prof Samatar and i share a view of respecting both states that formed the 1960 UNION and have accepted whatever necessary sacrifice that is required to revive the Emotions that fueled our Forefathers to initiate the demand for Somaliweyn. If Secession is a bitter bill to medicate the ills of the 1960Union why must that be frowned upon?

Those of us who desire a solution above the temporary pains of the minority who are infatuated with a hijacked UNION from the past and people whose emotional attachment has become a shackle for the majority will not, can not and must not be accepted. These same sentimentalist that hold us hostage to a long dead desire to unite all Somali regions have lost all bearing and bring forth no contribution to the required synergy to progress the cause of all Somali people of the horn of Africa.

Those who falsely claim to represent UNIONIST ideals and at the same same time deprive the rights of the citizens of the UNITED-Somali States are conducting themselves in a treasonous and discriminatory fashion. Two states joined by voluntary choice and either has the right to depart from such contract when the terms of such contract have been violated.

Denial of rights equates to perpetuation of HATE and creation of animosity that will eventually culminate in outright WAR. Those who have LOVE for the Somali condition or have any CARE left in them will either present new VISIONS or SUPPORT any means to safeguard future Generations from conflict.

1. Present a means to satisfy both states to Reunite.
2. Support Dissolution and each to his own state.

There is no Compulsion in a UNION that contractually was designed to safeguard the interests of both states! Unless one state has the power to subjugate the other by force there was no UNION since 1991.
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Re: Presidential Candidate From Somaliland state

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Somalia can't approach SL, in the same way they approach galmudug, puntland and other federal states.

SL itself is :

Politcally, economically , military , educationally , legitimately superior to the ever so , weak and frail Somalia that needs the likes of Uganda , Burundi, Kenya , Ethiopia, UN, AU For their survival . Our system is full of self-sufficiency and i can do nothing but laugh and cry "SHAME ON YOU!" to those who are busy and are delusional and still believe they have a right to concern themselves with SL. Go and fix your dirty ,burnt, stinky home before commenting on mine. The UN and africans control your land, sea and airspace, don't think for a minute these elections will get Somalia back on its feet because hell no it won't. As for Isaaq, Sa'ad Muse are richer, wealthier, educated, whilst the marehan youths are nothing but dirty rapists who can't answer 1+1. 8-) :sland:
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Re: Presidential Candidate From Somaliland state

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Cirwaaq wrote:I am allergic to people who claim to speak for others. You have no knowledge of Prof Samatar's Vision.

You claim Prof Samatar has no interest in Somaliweyn when infact he is PAN-AFRICANIST and would like to see closer relationship between all african states. Prof understand the desperate need to build long lasting bridges between communities be they between somali regions or the greater african family. If you wish to hold the Moral high ground when in conversation with me then at the very least contain your emotional outbursts and reason like a civilized person.

Alahu yaclam what tomorrow holds and my advice to you as a brother is stop tarnishing the name of prof Samatar you are as destructive to his image as Ximanxoolo is to Far-Marjo's.
Cirwaaq wrote:
As a person from Boorama, Awdal part of what was once considered "British Somaliland", and today part of the Somali Republic through a legal and consummated Act of Union believe this farce called CIrwaaq is anything but a true secessionist?
Are you pursuing the believe i am Gurey?

Everyone is entitled to own fantasy if it soothes the nightmares of reality. Had Mondey truly been from Awdal or for that matter been related to Prof Samatar he would have represented the good prof in better light.

Prof Samatar and i share a view of respecting both states that formed the 1960 UNION and have accepted whatever necessary sacrifice that is required to revive the Emotions that fueled our Forefathers to initiate the demand for Somaliweyn. If Secession is a bitter bill to medicate the ills of the 1960Union why must that be frowned upon?

Those of us who desire a solution above the temporary pains of the minority who are infatuated with a hijacked UNION from the past and people whose emotional attachment has become a shackle for the majority will not, can not and must not be accepted. These same sentimentalist that hold us hostage to a long dead desire to unite all Somali regions have lost all bearing and bring forth no contribution to the required synergy to progress the cause of all Somali people of the horn of Africa.

Those who falsely claim to represent UNIONIST ideals and at the same same time deprive the rights of the citizens of the UNITED-Somali States are conducting themselves in a treasonous and discriminatory fashion. Two states joined by voluntary choice and either has the right to depart from such contract when the terms of such contract have been violated.

Denial of rights equates to perpetuation of HATE and creation of animosity that will eventually culminate in outright WAR. Those who have LOVE for the Somali condition or have any CARE left in them will either present new VISIONS or SUPPORT any means to safeguard future Generations from conflict.

1. Present a means to satisfy both states to Reunite.
2. Support Dissolution and each to his own state.

There is no Compulsion in a UNION that contractually was designed to safeguard the interests of both states! Unless one state has the power to subjugate the other by force there was no UNION since 1991.
:-@ this is exactly what you sound like



Just stop lying about el professore he's nothing like you better yet stop using his name altogether, comparing your lowly self to him is the ultimate insult for all patriotic :som: scholars.
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Re: Presidential Candidate From Somaliland state

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The`Republic wrote:
Mondey wrote::-@

closet secessionist I see you're coming out already :lol: Take you're meaningless trash you keep shitting over and over again to where it belongs you piece of shit and stop hiding behind the veil of Greater Somalia as a snake like would never know what unity means. what a shameless disgraceful character you are do not post the blue :som: flag smiley again nijaasyahay :arrow:
by the way if el professore reads any of the shit you post here wallahi he'll slap the shit outta you :lol:
As a person from Boorama, Awdal part of what was once considered "British Somaliland", and today part of the Somali Republic through a legal and consummated Act of Union believe this farce called CIrwaaq is anything but a true secessionist?
He's a snake and a coward thats what he is. he's not even man enough to come out just notice how he continuously lobbying for secession by blatantly demeaning :som: .
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Re: Presidential Candidate From Somaliland state

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Mondey wrote:

closet secessionist
Doh!!!

Prof must also be that :?:
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Re: Presidential Candidate From Somaliland state

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They`re only a subclan of dir, why should they be allowed to divide the country?
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Re: Presidential Candidate From Somaliland state

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Cirwaaq wrote:
The`Republic wrote:I am sorry, I am confused or is there a Somaliland state, legitimate, internationally recognized, a party to the international system, and a signatory of international law?

I don't know if we are talking about is a perfectly legitimate existing country or some African faction's dusty break-away fiefdom somewhere in a primitive corner of the African continent?

Basic logic 101.

2 States joined to form the "Republic of Somalia" by means of majority acceptance and demand. In a circumstance where one state has withdrawn from that agreement by the same means into which it entered it in the first place via majority demand and acceptance.

By default if one state is considered as non existent like wise it's former partner in union is also a Non entity state since it does not control both states nor reestablished it's own former border or sovereignty.

Somalia is a non entity unless it is able to exert it's force not only within it's own borders by also the territory of it's former Union member. Alternative is to itself re-declare own independence.

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