Prof Samatar SL a true Democracy, Walanweyn a corrupt nest

[LeJusticier]

I vote Hydrogen for president.

[Marques]

It had nothing to do with the presidential seat. This man was never anti Somaliland. He just wanted the union to be renegotiated and if there is going to be a federal system then it should be Hargeisa and Mogadishu since they represent two of the 5 Somali regions. He also tried to discuss the Somaliland issue in the parliament and even give advice to Xasan Sheikh together with others from Somaliland like General Jaamac Maxamed Qaalib and Ina Buba but the unwillingness to fix these problems aswell as other problems lead to the resignation of his position in the Somali parliament. He then went to Somaliland and witnessed a completely different country that was showing political maturity, democracy and freedom.

The professor shouldn't be vilified. The defense mechanism that opposes criticism is the problem with Somalia.

Somaliland issue? What issue? The parliament is 4.5, Somalia does not view itself as a nation of two nations, it is a nation of clans, and upon that note the parliament seats were divided. If you are talking about the Siad Barre thing, then that will not and does not deserve to be addressed. Geyiga Soomaaliya 5 aa loo qeybiye...haday shantaas isu timaado tolow mawaxaa la yeelaa shan madaxweyne? qabiil qaran ma noqdo sxb AUN Adan Cadde ayaa halkudhigaas abuuray hadaa xikmada fahmayso.

Samatar being mistreated by a few southerners like Muuse Suudi ended up sulking off and went to Hargeisa in a silent protest. War siyaasadu ha barto odayga waxas ma soconayaan...The great man Cigaal AUN encountered the same thing but he maneuvered his way out and rolled into Mogadishu as the new Prime Minister. Rageedi ma ahan Samatar waa qunyar socod oon siyaasada wadanka u bislaan..

[Khalid Ali]

Eventhough Cigaal was very determined and ambitious even back than it was not fair Somaliland was highly under represented in the parliament and the ministerial positions. Cigaal was the Prime Minister of the state of Somaliland when gained independence and he was demoted , by the way the correct term is geygiga Somaliyeed not geyiga Somaliyaa the Somali peninsula does not mean Somalia. Somali peninsula goes all the way to Kenya's northern eastern region to deep inside Ethiopia all the way to Somaliland Djibouti. Samatar is correct though for 53 years Somaliland produced 2 prime ministers if we have to add cumar carte under mahdi to 3 but that was a few months cant be called government cali khalif in 2000 for a year Cigaal for 2 years in 1967 thats about it. Dir has 61 seats in Somalia how can dir cant be named prime minister its 4.5. For a unionist Somalilander like Samatar , the koonfurians dont make it really attractive for him to win over hearts and minds you guys are not doing good job.

[Marques]

Eventhough Cigaal was very determined and ambitious even back than it was not fair Somaliland was highly under represented in the parliament and the ministerial positions. Cigaal was the Prime Minister of the state of Somaliland when gained independence and he was demoted , by the way the correct term is geygiga Somaliyeed not geyiga Somaliyaa the Somali peninsula does not mean Somalia. Somali peninsula goes all the way to Kenya's northern eastern region to deep inside Ethiopia all the way to Somaliland Djibouti. Samatar is correct though for 53 years Somaliland produced 2 prime ministers if we have to add cumar carte under mahdi to 3 but that was a few months cant be called government cali khalif in 2000 for a year Cigaal for 2 years in 1967 thats about it. Dir has 61 seats in Somalia how can dir cant be named prime minister its 4.5. For a unionist Somalilander like Samatar , the koonfurians dont make it really attractive for him to win over hearts and minds you guys are not doing good job.

Anigu carro Soomaaliyeed oo dhan Soomaaliya baan iraah, call me a delusional unionist but that's me. Sxb there has been corruption in Somalia since it's creation and that extends to all clans and sub clans. Nin Murusade ama nin Gaaljecel oo madaxweyne noqday weligaa ma aragtay? Doesn't mean we should protest and claim autonomy. Samatar khalad ayuu ka fahmay...

Cigaal was not the only person demoted. C/laahi Ciise who had led the independence movement and was arguably recognized as the leader of pan Somalism was given the portfolio of the foreign ministry. Nin weliba tookadiisa ayuu mar waayay. Infact the most powerful official after the President was the Parliament leader who in those years were all Isaaq. When Sharmaarke was assisinated, Mukhtaar Xuseen was Somalia's President for more than a week.

[Kabriid]

It had nothing to do with the presidential seat. This man was never anti Somaliland. He just wanted the union to be renegotiated and if there is going to be a federal system then it should be Hargeisa and Mogadishu since they represent two of the 5 Somali regions. He also tried to discuss the Somaliland issue in the parliament and even give advice to Xasan Sheikh together with others from Somaliland like General Jaamac Maxamed Qaalib and Ina Buba but the unwillingness to fix these problems aswell as other problems lead to the resignation of his position in the Somali parliament. He then went to Somaliland and witnessed a completely different country that was showing political maturity, democracy and freedom.

The professor shouldn't be vilified. The defense mechanism that opposes criticism is the problem with Somalia.

Somaliland issue? What issue? The parliament is 4.5, Somalia does not view itself as a nation of two nations, it is a nation of clans, and upon that note the parliament seats were divided. If you are talking about the Siad Barre thing, then that will not and does not deserve to be addressed. Geyiga Soomaaliya 5 aa loo qeybiye...haday shantaas isu timaado tolow mawaxaa la yeelaa shan madaxweyne? qabiil qaran ma noqdo sxb AUN Adan Cadde ayaa halkudhigaas abuuray hadaa xikmada fahmayso.

Samatar being mistreated by a few southerners like Muuse Suudi ended up sulking off and went to Hargeisa in a silent protest. War siyaasadu ha barto odayga waxas ma soconayaan...The great man Cigaal AUN encountered the same thing but he maneuvered his way out and rolled into Mogadishu as the new Prime Minister. Rageedi ma ahan Samatar waa qunyar socod oon siyaasada wadanka u bislaan..

The historical grievances. The fact that there is no documents proving or even legitimizing the union. The fact that your politicians hijacked everything not willing to split the parliament between Somaliland and Somalia as they should've done. Our MP's got 33 seats while yours had 123. The fact that you got the presidential post, prime minister and speaker of the parliament, the head of the military despite no one from south qualifying compared to Somaliland, you got the head of the police, people from the south took over the judicial branch of the government. The fact that your politicians overlooked the results when Somalilanders voted no to the constitution in 1961 etc. This had nothing to do with Siyaad Barre.

Somalia annexed Somaliland. The naive unionists are trying to fix these problems but their solutions are falling on deaf ears. One day they will realize what the rest of us realized.

Somaliland is not based on qabiil compared to Somalia. We're not part of that 4.5 shit you mentioned. Our political leaders were democratically elected unlike Somalia. We are a different country wether you like it or not. The fact that your politicians once again are trying their best to annex Somaliland only proves what kind of people we're dealing with.

[Rabshoole]

Somalia waxay aminsan yahiin madamma Isaaq Somaliland heystaan, Dir lama siin karo PM ama gudamiyaha barlamanka yacni dad tagay weeye oo dhulkooda la tagay. That is exactly how they function, for anyone to say otherwise, they're only lying to themselves. This is my question to them, if that is the case.

Why were Isaaq given almost 25 seats under DIR, I think Dir would've accomplished alot had they removed isaaqs from occupying any seats in Somalia under the DIR name, simply because they've always sold they're votes to the highest bidders and majority of those occupants didn't care who got their votes, at the end their DIR when it's convenient for them.

[AbdiWahab252]

Somalia waxay aminsan yahiin madamma Isaaq Somaliland heystaan, Dir lama siin karo PM ama gudamiyaha barlamanka yacni dad tagay weeye oo dhulkooda la tagay. That is exactly how they function, for anyone to say otherwise, they're only lying to themselves. This is my question to them, if that is the case.

Why were Isaaq given almost 25 seats under DIR, I think Dir would've accomplished alot had they removed isaaqs from occupying any seats in Somalia under the DIR name, simply because they've always sold they're votes to the highest bidders and majority of those occupants didn't care who got their votes, at the end their DIR when it's convenient for them.

[Kabriid]

Armaan


Your people should kick them out even the Gadubiirsi and Ciise. They have no place in Somalia and they can't come to Somaliland.

[Rabshoole]

Armaan


Your people should kick them out even the Gadubiirsi and Ciise. They have no place in Somalia and they can't come to Somaliland.

We don't mind educated people like Fowzia who is doing a wonderful job if I say so myself

[Khalid Ali]

Somalia waxay aminsan yahiin madamma Isaaq Somaliland heystaan, Dir lama siin karo PM ama gudamiyaha barlamanka yacni dad tagay weeye oo dhulkooda la tagay. That is exactly how they function, for anyone to say otherwise, they're only lying to themselves. This is my question to them, if that is the case.

Why were Isaaq given almost 25 seats under DIR, I think Dir would've accomplished alot had they removed isaaqs from occupying any seats in Somalia under the DIR name, simply because they've always sold they're votes to the highest bidders and majority of those occupants didn't care who got their votes, at the end their DIR when it's convenient for them.

Thats bulshit ciise has 8 gadabuursi has 9 isaaq has 25 the rest is southern dir right , the southern dir have more seats than Marehaan they could easily get the PM , How is possible that MAREHAAN CAN BECOME PM and Southern dir dont. its because Hawiye politicians do not want to share power with the southern dir

[Casanova25]

Armaan


Your people should kick them out even the Gadubiirsi and Ciise. They have no place in Somalia and they can't come to Somaliland.

Why?

[Kabriid]

Armaan


Your people should kick them out even the Gadubiirsi and Ciise. They have no place in Somalia and they can't come to Somaliland.

Why?

Because they don't live in Somalia. The 61 seats should go to southern Dir.

[Casanova25]

Armaan


Your people should kick them out even the Gadubiirsi and Ciise. They have no place in Somalia and they can't come to Somaliland.

Why?

Because they don't live in Somalia. The 61 seats should go to southern Dir.

Your hilarious wlhi you made me laugh there...

So you wanna take our Brothers away from somalia and into your corner..

[SomaliDefenceCouncil]

Thats bulshit ciise has 8 gadabuursi has 9 isaaq has 25 the rest is southern dir right , the southern dir have more seats than Marehaan they could easily get the PM , How is possible that MAREHAAN CAN BECOME PM and Southern dir dont. its because Hawiye politicians do not want to share power with the southern dir

Its possible because the SNM khat addicts have held the entire Dir hostage with their breakaway politics

[Rabshoole]

Somalia waxay aminsan yahiin madamma Isaaq Somaliland heystaan, Dir lama siin karo PM ama gudamiyaha barlamanka yacni dad tagay weeye oo dhulkooda la tagay. That is exactly how they function, for anyone to say otherwise, they're only lying to themselves. This is my question to them, if that is the case.

Why were Isaaq given almost 25 seats under DIR, I think Dir would've accomplished alot had they removed isaaqs from occupying any seats in Somalia under the DIR name, simply because they've always sold they're votes to the highest bidders and majority of those occupants didn't care who got their votes, at the end their DIR when it's convenient for them.

Thats bulshit ciise has 8 gadabuursi has 9 isaaq has 25 the rest is southern dir right , the southern dir have more seats than Marehaan they could easily get the PM , How is possible that MAREHAAN CAN BECOME PM and Southern dir dont. its because Hawiye politicians do not want to share power with the southern dir

Surre who occupy more land than Cisse's Seylac, received a 7 last year while Cisse got a 8 or 9, Warday and Bimaal who live all throughout the South are given not more than 15 combined, while isaaq who says, Anagu Xamar taageymeyno gets 25 (Thats a slap to any Dir face), The truth is majority of reer waqooyi Dir sell their votes, and when you divide the votes, 24 are are just southern Dir, while a whopping 37 are northern Dir, If truth be told that is what's hindering Dir from receiving the proper positions we need. Just imagining 61 votes all Southern Dir, we would've already gotten a Surre President ruling from Xamar. The blame belongs to Dir for allowing such nonsense to linger this long, not Hawiye.