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Re: Daraawiish and the Kacaan Revisionsim.

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 6:30 pm
by X.Playa
Those intelligence reports are treasure troves. When Ismay is refering to the intelligence reports of 1909-1910 I wonder where are these stored, most of Ismays papers are from 1914 to 1920. The period from 1906 to 1912 are missing.

What i found so far in the link I gave you are:

1- intelligence reports 1902-1906

2- Staff diaries base records 1902-1906

these files are under the search code WO 106/19.

1- Daily diaries of majored E.M.Woodward. WO 106/20.

Most of these papers cover in details the battles of Gumburo, Daraatoole and Jidbaale and the activities of the leading Dervishes be it the Mullah, Nuur or Suudi.

I have yet to find informations on the middle period from 1906 to 1912 intelligence reports.

Re: Daraawiish and the Kacaan Revisionsim.

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 11:55 pm
by X.Playa
LeJusticier wrote:I have met yesterday one diehard darwish and I told Mullah had had 32 wives, he couldn't believe me until I show him Lord Ismay's papers.
Among the subdivion of Mullah's following:
Each of which named after one of his wives:
1-Ba ina Osman aka Meeneleh(daughter Osman sheikh HAWIYE)...
2-Ba in Yousuf aka Garbo(Yusuf Haili the Mullah's
3-Bah Barni ina Hirsi(Ba ararsame) Brigade “Darbuush”
4-Bah ina Ali shire sister of Warsangeli Sultan Brigade “Garbo”
5-Bah ina Ali Ibrahim(Warsangeli) Brigade “Garbo”
6-Ba ina Mullo (Ogaden) Birigade “Ragxun”
7-Ba ina Islan(Majeerteen) formerly known in Brigade “Ragxun” now in “Targo’ay”(literally: wire cutters)
8-Bi ina Hussein(Ali geri) brigade Ragxun”
The formations of other wives are too insignificant for consideration. In the intelligent report of 1909-1910, there are references to the following additional formations of “Sheikh Aileh” the formation of the Mullah’s father and “Goloweina” (literally big squere) The formation of Mullah’s mother ARO. These formations appear to have been broken up on the death of each parent
Remember these above divisions are post war, meaning after Jidbaale, most likely after 1910 before 1910 it was different story and different division. The period of post 1905 after the Illig treaty should be regarded the 15 years of raids and Pillages, a period in which much of the old Dervish with the exception of Suudi and the Mullah were dead. I nameed it the Budhcad years.

Re: Daraawiish and the Kacaan Revisionsim.

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 11:26 pm
by LeJusticier
I have read some about those years.

Re: Daraawiish and the Kacaan Revisionsim.

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 2:49 pm
by dough
Interesting thread... I guess the lies can now finally be put to rest. :sland: :clap: :eat:

Re: Daraawiish and the Kacaan Revisionsim.

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:36 pm
by Aboor1
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Re: Daraawiish and the Kacaan Revisionsim.

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:59 pm
by Kukri
Aboor1 wrote:*

Mon Jun 16, 2014 4:23 pm

Mon Jun 16, 2014 4:36 pm

wax aad tira ma weydey :lol:

ha biqin sxb rayigaaga ka hadal
waa free forum reerna looma joojinaayo

soo da waxaad hayso
sida taxliisha ugu tuf

Re: Daraawiish and the Kacaan Revisionsim.

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:31 pm
by X.Playa
how can you get approved in 13 seconds??? is this a Faqash inside job!

Re: Daraawiish and the Kacaan Revisionsim.

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:41 pm
by X.Playa
More documents :

Death of the Mullah : destitute condition of his followers : his brother Yuusuf's desire to go to Somaliland.
A561/561/60.


* have no clue what does this means " desire to go to Somaliland" and Yuusuf his brother ( Aw Yuusuf Bare)!!! this man was supposedly killed by Cabdi Dheere on Feb.5 1920.

Vo 11 No 6A File 1154

Somaliland: Movement of 'Abdullah Shaheri, late righthand man of the Somali Mullah.
IOR/R/20/E/255, item 6. Aug 1904-Nov 1904.

Re: Daraawiish and the Kacaan Revisionsim.

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 2:11 pm
by X.Playa
December 1919, The Awards Offered by the British to capture or kill top Dervish in the case they flee to the Majeerteen coast , just before the 1920 bombardment.

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Notice #10, # 12 and # 13. in this original Italian list of Geffory Archer's procolimation of 1919 on awards for captured Dervish leaders and commanders and the Mullah's immediate family.

Now that's in Aw Jaamac's Kacaan book page 266-267, the original, Now notice the Somali version and translations of the that document on the same book page 268-269.

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Now notice in the translations # 12 Ibraahim Gioode , is removed completely from the list., # Ibraahim Buqul's award was reduced from 500. Ruubiya to 250 . Ruubiya. Now check Abshir Dhoore's reward it was upgraded to 500.R.

Reasons are thus, the Kacaan always promoted that in the North ( Somaliland) Abshir Dhoore was a high commander , now that the British regarded Ibraahim Buqul ( a wrong tribe) higher in value then Abshir Dhoore, Aw Jaamac and his helper Idaajaa did a little crude engineerings with their ancient type writer by switching the amount of rewards .

As to why Ibraahim Gioode was removed from the list , my suspicion is the Dhulbahnate couldn't handle the fact that more Adan Madoobe were on top Dervish then their own folks. So Ibraahim Gioode had to be removed.

Poor Aw Jaamac & were shocked that their pet hero Ismaaciil Mire was not in the list , he had to make a disclaimer before these four pages by introducing it this way:
"30kii bishii Disembar 1919ki barasaabku wuxuu soo saaray waraaq cad oo uu ciidamada iyo dadka kaleba ku guubaabinayo inay Wadaadka Iyo Daraawiishta ku xeeran la ciribtiro, guud ahaanna wuxuu dadka ugu ballan qaadayj in ninkii soo qabta ama soo gacan geliya ama soo dila oo meydkiiss keena dhawr iyo toban nin oo daraa-wilsh ka mid ahaa oo aan qaarkood madaxda ku jirin, hase ahaatee
iyaga u qornaa in laga siin doono lacag abaalgud ah. Waraaqdii inta la badiyey ayaa 21kii Jannaayo meel walba laga daadiyey waraaqdii waana tan :" p.265-266
loool qaarkood madaxda ku jirin = Ismaaciil Mire, but the reality is these were the top leaders and commanders and few of the Mullah's immediate family. Ismaaciil Mire was never regarded as top of anything before the Kacaan made him into a legend.

Re: Daraawiish and the Kacaan Revisionsim.

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:10 pm
by Thuganomics
oo aan qaarkood madaxda
ku jirin ,
:lol: :lol:

The only way that would work is if they were spies for them markaa

Re: Daraawiish and the Kacaan Revisionsim.

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:06 pm
by X.Playa
He is just reassuring his Dhulos that their Ismaaciil Mire is still rocking despite his absence from the list lol

Re: Daraawiish and the Kacaan Revisionsim.

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:07 pm
by X.Playa
X.Playa wrote:More documents :

Death of the Mullah : destitute condition of his followers : his brother Yuusuf's desire to go to Somaliland.
A561/561/60.


* have no clue what does this means " desire to go to Somaliland" and Yuusuf his brother ( Aw Yuusuf Bare)!!! this man was supposedly killed by Cabdi Dheere on Feb.5 1920.

Vo 11 No 6A File 1154

Somaliland: Movement of 'Abdullah Shaheri, late righthand man of the Somali Mullah.
IOR/R/20/E/255, item 6. Aug 1904-Nov 1904.
Riddle solved , Aw Yuusuf Cabdulle Xasan the brother of the Mullah wasn't killed by ex-Dervish Cabdi Warsame aka Cabdi Dheere, it was Sheekh Yuusuf Cismaan Xasan the Mullah's cousin Cabdi Dheere killed, the confusion arose from the similarity of their names. One interesting fact also is that this cousin of the Mullah, Sheekh Yuusuf Cismaan Xasan a.k.a Yuusuf Xayle , was at the same time the Mullah's first cousin and his in-law " sodog", its very bizarre no Somali marriage I know of exist where a man married his niece . Aw Jaamac Cumar Ciise himself was embaressed this is how he put it in his book.

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Read bottom page 273, Yuusuf Cismaan Xasan and Maxamed Cabdulle Xasan , are first cousins , but Aw Jaamac been embarrassed by the Mullah having sex with his niece changed the obvious relationship and called Yuusuf the uncle of the Mullah.

Re: Daraawiish and the Kacaan Revisionsim.

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 7:50 am
by knet
Happy 16th Anniversary To The Pride Of Somalia
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Puntites have always had a semblance of peace, prosperity and order, traders by nature, our people have always been autonomous and proud. For thousands of years, the guardians of Dal-Udug have ensured that every inch of ancestral land is safeguarded. Insha'allah the torch shall be passed onto the future generation".


Today we celebrate the 16th Birthday of Dal Udug/Puntland.


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The Rebirth Of A Nation The 16th Anniversary Of Puntland State Of Somalia.
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Magalada Garowe oo laga xusay dhalashadda Puntland
1 Aug 1, 2014 - 1:01:55 AM

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Magalo madaxda Puntland ee Garowe ayaa maanta oo Jimce ah waxaa lagu qabtay munaasibad lagu maamusayo xuska kowda Agoosto oo ku beegan waqtigii la aasasay 1998.

Fagaaraha caanka ah ee baraxada oo ay iskugu yimaadeen kumanaan dadwayne ah oo calanka Puntland qaarkood ku labisan ayaa waxaa lagu soo bandhigay fantasiyo kala duwan waxana wadada laamiga ah maray xaafadaha,iskuulada,Jaamacadaha,Barakacayasha iyo qaybaha kala duwan ee ciidanka difaaca dowladda Puntland.

Goobta munaasibada lagu qabtay waxaa ku sugnaa gollayaasha kala duwan ee dowladda iyo madaxdooda ugu saraysa,saraakiisha ammaanka iyo dadwayne kale oo dalka iyo dibada uga yimi inay Garowe ku muujiyaan dhalashada Puntland.

Wasiirka howlaha guud iyo gaadiidka oo ahaa gudoomiyaha qaban qaabada xuska Cabdirashiid Maxamed Daahir ayaa goobta ka sheegay inay waqti iyo dadaal badan galiyeen sidii xus wanaagsan loogu samayn lahaa Puntland xiligii la dhidmay oo 16-sano ay kasoo wareegatay.

Cudada ciidanka iyo isku xirnaanshaha shacabka ayuu sheegay inay tahay mid loogu talo galay inay ka naxaan cadowga Puntland iyo dadka dhibkeeda jecel.

Madaxwaynaha Puntland oo xuskani ay u ahayd tii ugu horaysay oo uu ka qayb galo Dr.Cabdiwali Maxamed Cali (Gaas) ayaa sheegay khudbadda uu Kowda Agoosto ugu talo galay inuu soo jeedin doono habeenimada caawa ah balse uu ku faraxsan yahay qaabka ay shacabka Puntland ugu midaysan yihiin xusaska noocan oo kale ah.

Munaasibado tan la mid ah ayaa ka socda gobalada kale ee Puntland iyo dalka dibadiisa kuwaasoo lagu soo bandhigayo taariikhdii iyo marlaxadaha ay Puntland soo martay.

Puntland ayaa la dhisay 1998 xiligaasi oo ay shir wayne iskugu yimaadeen Isimo,Cuqaal,siyaasiyiin,Haween.dhalinyaro iyo aqon yahano kuwaasoo sheegay inay muhiim tahay sidii loo baadi goobi lahaa qaranimaddii Soomaaliya ayna qasab tahay in marka hore gobaladda waqooyi bari mamul oo dhiso.

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Re: Daraawiish and the Kacaan Revisionsim.

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:13 am
by Corruption1
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Re: Daraawiish and the Kacaan Revisionsim.

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 2:09 pm
by metamorphosis
Lejuaticier you need to stop removing my posts. Xplaya it is permissible in Islam to marry your niece as long as she is your cousins's daughter and not your brother's.