Somaliweyn: Dowladsade has put you on the Spot!

[Somaliweyn]

^^like s.iil has no qabiil I believe traitors have no qabiil.


Also, isn't it immature of you to agree with his assertions which can be used against your group too, since prominent men like Gamcadheere, Qeybdiid are on the payrolls like M.Dheere etc?

Still, I believe that the brave HG fighters and masses do not care what traitors like Gacmadheere&Qeybdiid say.

So next time, read carefully and understand the implications of your answer.

[Twisted_Logic]

Voltage,

It is apparent that you are growing desperate by the minute. All the baseless claims you have made have been proven bogus and misleading beyond the shadow of doubt. It is clear that you are becoming increasingly desperate. The simple fact that you can’t do any-better than copying and pasting claims that that has been proven false is a fine example. You bubbles have been burst. Come up with a new rhetoric or case will remain closed.

[Twisted_Logic]

''Once again the Marehan Levies proved to be absolutely useless and bolted.''

''only five British Officers and 96 Somali troops (G and the MI
Company) supported by just over 100 Swahali troops and the rather useless Marehan Levies.''






CASE CLOSED!

[Voltage]

[quote="Twisted_Logic"]Voltage,

It is apparent that you are growing desperate by the minute. All the baseless claims you have made have been proven bogus and misleading beyond the shadow of doubt. It is clear that you are becoming increasingly desperate. The simple fact that you can’t do any-better than copying and pasting claims that that has been proven false is a fine example. You bubbles have been burst. Come up with a new rhetoric or case will remain closed.[/quote]


I hardly think you are in any position to give an intellectual judgement considering your comprehension and for matter reasoning skills are under serious doubt. If you would so care as to respond to the CENTRAL THEMES of the debate and especially the accusations leveled to your own person as the chief example and prime manifestation of the Mudulood position vis-a-vis Somali politics and current occupation derived from your numerous contributions to this very forum, we would then be glad to get back on the band-wagon and continue on this lively discussion in so far as divulging from you anything worthy to sink our teeth into. Muttering about the Siad Barre government or fallacious and laughably ironic japs at the Sade legacy of the colonial era will not be your salvation from this direct challenge presented to your very character. The ball is in your court, you must not let the audience down now!

[Twisted_Logic]

[quote="Voltage"][quote="Twisted_Logic"]Voltage,

It is apparent that you are growing desperate by the minute. All the baseless claims you have made have been proven bogus and misleading beyond the shadow of doubt. It is clear that you are becoming increasingly desperate. The simple fact that you can’t do any-better than copying and pasting claims that that has been proven false is a fine example. You bubbles have been burst. Come up with a new rhetoric or case will remain closed.[/quote]


I hardly think you are in any position to give an intellectual judgement considering your comprehension and for matter reasoning skills are under serious doubt. If you would so care as to respond to the CENTRAL THEMES of the debate and especially the accusations leveled to your own person as the chief example and prime manifestation of the Mudulood position vis-a-vis Somali politics and current occupation derived from your numerous contributions to this very forum, we would then be glad to get back on the band-wagon and continue on this lively discussion in so far as divulging from you anything worthy to sink our teeth into. Muttering about the Siad Barre government or fallacious and laughably ironic japs at the Sade legacy of the colonial era will not be your salvation from this direct challenge presented to your very character. The ball is in your court, you must not let the audience down now! [/quote]

Voltage,

Another reason why we say you are a very delusional character! The whole point of this debate (if you want to call that) was to prove the inherent fifth-column status of the Marehan and their ugly history of national back-stabbing, and historical facts have been provided to illustrate those realities. In the process you became very desperate and made claims that had no truth and it was my pleasure and Somaliwayne’s to burst your bubbles! You have yet to bring any evidence to back up your perverted claims which makes you a hoodwink and a diluted character! If you can brush off those labels do so and do yourself (and your mystical Marehan clan) a favor! I think the words of the British officer have nicely summoned up the whole debate:

''Once again the Marehan Levies proved to be absolutely useless and bolted.''

''only five British Officers and 96 Somali troops (G and the MI
Company) supported by just over 100 Swahali troops and the rather useless Marehan Levies.''

[Voltage]

[quote="Twisted_Logic"]Another reason why we say you are a very delusional character! The whole point of this debate (if you want to call that) was to prove the inherent fifth-column status of the Marehan [/quote]




Who doubts me now?

Why don't you go ask Mj_Pride who started this topic and Somaliweyn whom it is addressed to about the point of this topic. Heck read the damn title you illiterate baboon and just about the 9 pages it witnessed saved for your rather lost contributions that I spotted and called out on.

[Twisted_Logic]

[quote="Voltage"][quote="Twisted_Logic"]Another reason why we say you are a very delusional character! The whole point of this debate (if you want to call that) was to prove the inherent fifth-column status of the Marehan [/quote]




Who doubts me now?

Why don't you go ask Mj_Pride who started this topic and Somaliweyn whom it is addressed to about the point of this topic. Heck read the damn title you illiterate baboon. [/quote]


You are desperate! It is not my fault that history haunts you!

[Voltage]

[quote="Twisted_Logic"]


You are desperate! It is not my fault that history haunts you! [/quote]


Laughable wallahi. Do you know realize why I took a patronizing tone in all my responses to you and acted as your teach rather than your opponent of equals?

As for history, this is the record of history in my favor (since you are more than eager to diverge from the central theme of the topic)

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/3096/marehan2od7.png

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb5/ ... ngClan.jpg

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb5/ ... alions.jpg

This whole page is dedicated to Sade History during the Colonial Era

http://marehansade.blogspot.com/search/ ... 00-1969%29


And even your own cousin Somaliweyn corrected you on your misunderstanding of his post when what you read as Marehan offering to send soldiers to the British in World War II, actually spoke of the Marehan fighting the British and not being one of the clans who offered soldiers.

Now listen, this is extremely beneath me and if I even felt for a second the dignity of SADE was under a microscope by your haphazard and incompetent contribution, the last thing you would get from me are articles as I am prone to writing thesis on such issues, so kindly now address the central theme of the topic calling upon painful comprehension skills in your favor or be gone.

[King-of-Awdal]

Am really getting Tired of this MJ+ABGAAL VS MAREXAAN+HG.

[Twisted_Logic]

[quote="Voltage"][quote="Twisted_Logic"]


You are desperate! It is not my fault that history haunts you! [/quote]


Laughable wallahi. Do you know realize why I took a patronizing tone in all my responses to you and acted as your teach rather than your opponent of equals?

As for history, this is the record of history in my favor (since you are more than eager to diverge from the central theme of the topic)

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/3096/marehan2od7.png

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb5/ ... ngClan.jpg

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb5/ ... alions.jpg

This whole page is dedicated to Sade History during the Colonial Era

http://marehansade.blogspot.com/search/ ... 00-1969%29


And even your own cousin Somaliweyn corrected you on your misunderstanding of his post when what you read as Marehan offering to send soldiers to the British in World War II, actually spoke of the Marehan fighting the British and not being one of the clans who offered soldiers.

Now listen, this is extremely beneath me and if I even felt for a second the dignity of SADE was under a microscope by your haphazard and incompetent contribution, the last thing you would get from me are articles as I am prone to writing thesis on such issues, so kindly now address the central theme of the topic calling upon painful comprehension skills in your favor or be gone. [/quote]


Your comprehension skills are really non-existent! It is a common knowledge that every Somali clan in their own capacities has fought against the colonizers. The disturbing thing is that your clan has voluntarily offered to fight along-side the colonizers. Also, almost all of the items you posted clearly state that the Marehan were fighting against fellow Somalis and making raids into Ethiopia fighting against fellow Somali clans! Where is the pride in that?

Article 1 talks about Marehan wars against the Garre. No war against colonialism mentioned!

Article 2 is misleading and one can’t draw any conclusions since majority of the article has been eliminated. If you can provide the whole article do so!

Article 3 is the only that explicitly talks of Marehan fight against the colonizers!

Once again, you have proved to be a misleader and some-one that is hell-bent on constructing his own realities even when the facts are starkly against him!

Ps

Your incessant attempt to discredit other through sheer childish name-calling essentially exposes your desperate attempt to cover reality!

[Voltage]

Ridiculous, I bid you a good day now.

[Twisted_Logic]

[quote="Voltage"]Ridiculous, I bid you a good day now. [/quote]

Peace!

[Somaliweyn]

''Once again, you have proved to be a misleader and some-one that is hell-bent on constructing his own realities even when the facts are starkly against him!''

Accurate obeservation.

These kids may mislead other unaware Somali kids who have not read history, but to us these are simple bubbles which burst at the first carefull investigation.


Twisted,

Do you know why Article 3 mentions the campaign against Marehan? Because the Marehan were expanding into Aulilan teritorry and closer to the Juba regions, this along with the weapons they brought from the North and their constant harrasing of other Somali clans which lived in Gedo at that time..made the Aulilan and other Somali groups collaborate with the British authorities in containing their expansion. Hence the campaign of disarming launched against them by the British.

You would expect that they would become nr1 enemy of the British after this campaign, but a mere 3 years later they themselves became footsoldiers...used by the same ones that disarmed them, to disarm the other Somali groups.

Also, them fighting against Ethiopians is nothing impressive as basically every Somali group was fighting the Ethiopian raids in Somalia. For example, the Rahanweyn fighting them when they besieged Luuq, the Hawiye clans fighting them when they raided the Shabelle Valley, the Northern Somali clans fighting the Ethiopians when they raided Haud region.

The rest of the blog is based on inaccurate and at times even incomplete lines in obscure sources. It is a collection of every line which can be associated with the clan, without carefull and objective study, mixed together like a cocktail. So indeed own construction of realities, since they only mention ''positive'' history while overlooking the footsoldier aspect. If you want to present history, be objective and present it complete.

[Twisted_Logic]

[quote="Somaliweyn"]''Once again, you have proved to be a misleader and some-one that is hell-bent on constructing his own realities even when the facts are starkly against him!''

Accurate obeservation.

These kids may mislead other unaware Somali kids who have not read history, but to us these are simple bubbles which burst at the first carefull investigation.


Twisted,

Do you know why Article 3 mentions the campaign against Marehan? Because the Marehan were expanding into Aulilan teritorry and closer to the Juba regions, this along with the weapons they brought from the North and their constant harrasing of other Somali clans which lived in Gedo at that time..made the Aulilan and other Somali groups collaborate with the British authorities in containing their expansion. Hence the campaign of disarming launched against them by the British.

You would expect that they would become nr1 enemy of the British after this campaign, but a mere 3 years later they themselves became footsoldiers...used by the same ones that disarmed them, to disarm the other Somali groups.

Also, them fighting against Ethiopians is nothing impressive as basically every Somali group was fighting the Ethiopian raids in Somalia. For example, the Rahanweyn fighting them when they besieged Luuq, the Hawiye clans fighting them when they raided the Shabelle Valley, the Northern Somali clans fighting the Ethiopians when they raided Haud region.

The rest of the blog is based on inaccurate and at times even incomplete lines in obscure sources. It is a collection of every line which can be associated with the clan, without carefull and objective study, mixed together like a cocktail. So indeed own construction of realities, since they only mention ''positive'' history while overlooking the footsoldier aspect. If you want to present history, be objective and present it complete.[/quote]

Exactly!