Can a muslim love a Kafir? how about Friendship ?

[SoMaLiSiZz]

This post is about can a Muslim love a non-believer and can they be friends with them...
Let me say it again not a non-believers a bad people and its not about either to love them or hate them, we should make dacwa for them and invite them to Islam in the best way possible but I wrote this POST because I see some Muslims following the footsteps of the non-believers, when the Muslims starts to act like disbelievers all this because they might not make dacwa for them on the contrary the non-believers are the once making the invitations to their life style and homes and so on..


I don’t why some Muslims don’t understand the serious problem in this??

[SoMaLiSiZz]

[quote="smooth"]Ureyso.

try to bring your point accross more effectively without those persistant sarcastic remarks you love to so dominantly hang onto, who are you trying to Impress her madame ?[/quote]



Smooth ha ka war warin ma oof ba ina jabi .. Barak Allah feek

[SoMaLiSiZz]

Ureysoo write down the verses you were referring to next time so I can double check them and then write down you quiz..


Fe Aman Allah

[Ureysoo]

som...

the definition of alliance in that verse was like *guardian/protector* and not *friends* (waliy and not sadiiq) and the rationale why we can’t desire *non Muslim* as a protector cause of the dissimilar beliefs .and I portrayed it in depth sis *refer 2 it*, and about the discrimination part, I felt like including it after I speckled the verity u was disrupting them without any privilege 2 do so, it’s between *them and God*….and about impairing them, *yeah* u did, what u scribbled down harms them mentally, how would u anticipate them 2 perform and esteem our religion after u asserted that our *Islamic conviction* disowns them, while on the other hand that’s illusion...

ur comments *ureysoo Qal Allah;

[لاَ تَتَّخِذُواْ الَّذِينَ اتَّخَذُواْ دِينَكُمْ هُزُواً وَلَعِباً مِّنَ الَّذِينَ أُوتُواْ الْكِتَـبَ مِن قَبْلِكُمْ]

(Take not as friends those who take your religion for a mockery and fun from those who received the Scriptures before you...)..*

now u r oversimplifying sis, u can’t declare that all *non Muslims* mocks our religion, there r couple of ppl who determined 2 pursue other religions principles, but in the same time they reverence our religion …*Allah* stated in the *Quran*…. *If they seek peace, then seek u peace. and trust in God 4 he is the 1 that hears and knows all things* (8:61)….
this verse hinder u from disrespecting *non Muslims* who didn’t commit any erroneous deeds towards u or ur religion…*don’t be judgmental ukhti* beside the verse u cited was directed 2 couple of ppl who were insulting our religion.. and *Allah* averred this verse 2 rectify that we should treat them in the same way, if they abhorrence our religion....

seems like u disregarded my Q sis, so abide me 2 enquire 4 a respond this time…*how can *Allah* almighty prohibit 4 any *Muslim* 2 form personal friendship with any *Jew* or *Christian*, when he the almighty sanctioned 4 *Muslim* men 2 have friendly relationships with *Jewish* and *Christian* women like they do with *Muslim* women apparently (without sex be4 marriage) that could lead 2 marriage materialize that *Muslims* can correlate with *non Muslims* and initiate friendships....

intellex…..

no, no, no *ayeeyo ureysoo* and nothing else…no speculate why some ppl call me *hard headed*...

smooth….

am I electrifying some1, * I don’t deem so* im just situating my point of view…beside ur assumption is so gratuitous…so do me a favour and keep it 2 ur self next time …*deal*...

[Ureysoo]

and I stated earlier on that this whole discussion, which u instigated can be classified as *bid'ah*=innovation...I recommend u 2 check it with some1 *ukhti* cause I did, and scripted all the points which I reached in my previous thread...

[smooth]

Ureeyso

dont try hitting on those cheap points dhilladi kudashaywase the crap you so confidently post on a regular bases is mistructured and it cleary indicates your nothing but a desprate love wanting to be recognised, dont make yourself a laughing object her, Nacasti bosaaso ka keentay wase

[Ureysoo]

i'll attempt not 2 perturb this serene moment, but indisputably i'll deal with ur azz..like i always do waryaa...fetch ur azz 2 clan-section….*nacas yahow*....

[smooth]

so your actually narrating and providing us with the views of your corrupted parents and try to legitimize it ?

what a Sad cunt

[Ureysoo]

[quote="SoMaLiSiZz"]This post is about can a Muslim love a non-believer and can they be friends with them...
Let me say it again not a non-believers a bad people and its not about either to love them or hate them, we should make dacwa for them and invite them to Islam in the best way possible but I wrote this POST because I see some Muslims following the footsteps of the non-believers, when the Muslims starts to act like disbelievers all this because they might not make dacwa for them on the contrary the non-believers are the once making the invitations to their life style and homes and so on..


I don’t why some Muslims don’t understand the serious problem in this??[/quote]

sorry sis but I divergence with u, what im interpreting is ur comments promoting ppl 2 abhor each other..and u scribbled down some verses without any consciousness what does that verse signify...alongside as I plainly can read the heading of this post and the various threads u scripted within this post…. the whole concept of this thread is *Muslim can't be friends with non Muslims* u r breeding hatred and spreading illogical statements...and u should cease it *ukhti* walaa 7araam.......*honesty is the best policy* ...

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

So if a Muslim man marries a Jewish or Christian woman, can he love his wife?

[Gamadid.]

Okey guys, I have followed this argument whenever I visited this place. My knowledge of islam is not expansive and I have done some reading on it to get an idea of what the correct way should be. I think Muslims are required to maintain cordial and friendly relationship with all good people regardless of faith. Indeed the prophet trusted the chrsitian King in Ethiopia with the lives of his companions who were at the time the only few muslims in the entire world. Friendship is conditional and depends on other people's behaviour. If they don't declare a war on Muslims, they can not be treated as enemies. Not every nonmuslim is an enemy. In fact, the majority of the world have no animosity towards the muslims. One must consider the conditions under which each verse was revealed. Allah says in the Quran:

" Allah does not forbid you to be kind ( tabarru, birr) and equitable (tuqsitu, qist) to those who had neither fought against your faith nor driven you out of your homes. In fact Allah loves the equitable. (60-8 ) Allah only forbids you to make friends (wali) those who fought you on account of your faith and drove you out of your homes and backed up others in your expulsion. Those who will take them for friends are indeed the wrongdoers." (60: 9)




PS: If you haven't done careful research on a topic you want to start, KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT. That is how you serve islam best.

MAD MAC.

You already know the answer to your question. Is there a husband who is married or marries a woman he hates?

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Gamadid
Well in that case, a Muslim can love a Kufr huh? Can someone communicate that to this stupid B!tch plaguing this net.

[Gamadid.]

Mad Mac, she is not a b!tch but a good girl. She is a student who needs to expand her knowledge of islam and do some research before she opens a topic. The best way to grasp an islamic concept is to bring all verses that relate to the subject together and see what the message these verses convey is, consider the conditions under which certain verses were revealed and what they were communicating to the muslims at the time of revelation, what conditions these muslims lived under. If you want an example, the verses were revealed when muslims were being expelled from their homes and killed for their faith by people who were related to them. A father was killing his son because the son accepted islam, a mother was abandoning her daughter because the daughter accepted islam. Under such difficult conditions, and for the Muslims to be united group, Allah revealed to them that they should stick together and face the adverstiy as one regardless of who is facing them of relatives, parents and friends. However, under peaceful circumstances were people are not fighting muslims for their faith(see the above verses) and there is no declaration of war, MUSLIMS ARE REQUIRED TO KEEP THE PEACE, RESPECT OTHER PEOPLE'S FAITH ALWAYS(war or not) and etc. You can't consider everyone to be an enemy just because they are NOT MUSLIMS. That is the message I got from the verses I read.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Gamdid
She's a B!tch. No getting around it. Another f-king kid who think she knows every f-king thing. One of those condescending bastards the world is polluted with. I wish they were all dead.

[Gamadid.]

[quote="MAD MAC"]Gamdid
She's a B!tch. No getting around it. Another **** kid who think she knows every **** thing. One of those condescending bastards the world is polluted with. I wish they were all dead.[/quote]

Supposing you are upset with her because you care about Muslim's relationship with Nonmuslims in the world, why don't you reason with her and calm down? See, if you being a white nonmuslim talk to her in a nonhostile manner, perhaps she could learn something out of the discussion with you?