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Siciid85 wrote:Emperior. Walle? now that explains alot why he had beef with the Arap. Wasn't Muj.Koodhbuur & Muj.Lixle's mothers H.A? especially Muj.Lixle cisse muse bii ahayd hooyaadis baan maqlay.

Siciid85 wrote:Habar Awal women also produce great Garhajis men.


Col.Dhancade (The famous owner of Sool)
Muj.Mohammed Mooge Libaan
Muj.Koodhbur
Muj.Lixle
Nuur Suldaan Ducaale ( Nuur Dhagacun aka Nuur the ear cutter)

do you know who the reer abti of Abdi Gahayr & Hassan Tarabi were?

Siciid85 wrote:Your right a H.A women also gave birth to Suldaan Diiriye Suldaan Xassan Suldaan Farax Suldaan Guleed the grandfather of the current Cidagalle Suldaan Maxamed Suldaan Abdiqadir. it seems one way or another most of the famous Cidagalle men ranging from Muj.Koodhbur to Suldaan Diriiye waxa dhalay H.A.

abdalla11 wrote:This topic is for the pure breds
I am the same subclan for two generations as well as on my mom sides. But if i go further on my abtirsi ( before the colonization) i can see the immediate change: non of my great granddads married from their own subclan. My paternal Greatgranddad married a marehan, My maternal Greatgranddad married an Ogadeen-Makahiil and my other Maternal great granddad married a Leelkasse.
My maternal grandmother(half MJ half leelkasse) even had a Ogadeen halfbrothers

So did the colonization caused marriages between subclans because they were isolated?

I am interested to see your abtirsi and if there's an immediate change before and after the colonization

khalid ali wrote:

Siciid85 wrote:Your right a H.A women also gave birth to Suldaan Diiriye Suldaan Xassan Suldaan Farax Suldaan Guleed the grandfather of the current Cidagalle Suldaan Maxamed Suldaan Abdiqadir. it seems one way or another most of the famous Cidagalle men ranging from Muj.Koodhbur to Suldaan Diriiye waxa dhalay H.A.

yeah also the current Isaaq sultan suldaan maxamad suldaan cabdulqadir is maried to a cabdalle sacad lady , and cabdi waraabes granddaughters are maried to sacadmuse two. xita faisal cali warabes mother is sacadmuse.. Muj gacmadhere of the habr awal xita waxa dhalay ciidagale.

Gacalisa wrote:THIS WAS BY FAR THE MOST CONFUSING THREAD FOR ME!

Anyhow, i dont think that colonization had any much of an affect as we assume, because my family is very diverse. for my parents, mid waa Dir mid'ne waa darood, and as a matter of fact we have almost every single qabiil besides isaq (who's related to dir anyhow) in my fam!