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Faraaxoos I have yet to meet a Darood which has been to a refugee camp Image
abdisamad3 wrote:
RovingMadness wrote:
Voltage wrote:You know what, you repeated "military and political" power and stuff a lot with respect to your ability to achieve "Banadir State". Why wasn't this feasible in 1991? Why were you second class in large parts of the Mogadishu where you are claiming to represent as a state? Why was Villa Somalia, Bakara Market, dekedda Muqdisho, Radio Mogadishu, etc etc etc all in the hands of HG and you were cardoned off with to being a looma ooyaan if you passed a green line in the very city you say you represent as a clan?

I really don't get it. I don't even like rehashing this argument but your bravado has never match your reality.

Mogadishu will never part of a federal tribal state of yours. Your selected highest Mudulood officials will not allow it knowing the capital has to be a place where everyone has equal accessibility. The world will not allow and especially the overwhelming majority of Somalis, of whatever clan, will not allow this country coming out of civil war to have the very venue of its political representation be unilaterally assumed responsibility for by a tribal oriented federal government.

It will never happen. :up:
if I was looma oyaan, trust I would be escaping on hand-made boats and seeking refugee. Today I control Villa Somalia, Mogadishu Port, Adan Cade Airport, the governorship and every important position in Mogadishu. That's what matters at the end of the day!
About the role of Mogadishu under federalism, trust me you are hallucinating if you think you and I will have equal claim to Mogadishu. We never did and never will we.
I didn't know you was an Ugandan..well well everyday you learn something new. :o :lol:
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^^i second that :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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We´ve been saying this since last year. The capital/seat of government will be changed, because the people of Mogadishu don't want the city to be neutral.

I welcome Banadir State and Mogadishu as her capital, ku adkeysta walaleyaal, it will make the relocation easier :up:
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Eaglehawk wrote:
Muqdisho (RBC) Gudoomiyaha gobolka Banaadir Maxamuud Axmed Nuur Tarsan ayaa maanta sheegay in maamulkiisa uusan aqbali doonin in magaalada Muqdisho ay hoostagto maamul goboleed gaar ah ayna ka hor imaaneyso sharafta caasimada.
Gudoomiyaha oo maanta khudbad ka jeediyey munaasabad dadweyne badan ka soo qeybgaleen oo ka dhacday degmada Cabdicasiis ee magaalada Muqdisho ayaa sheegay in uu ka dalbaday guddiga dastuurka iyo baarlamaanka KMG ah inay soo qeexaan xeerka caasimada Soomaaliya.
“Ma dhacayso in Muqdisho ay hoostagto maamul goboleed gaar ah, caasimada Soomaaliya waxay leedahay mudnaan gaar ah waanan meel dadkoo dhan u siman yihiin, ninkii yiraahda maamul goboleed ayaan ka dhigayaa waa wax aan dhacayn.” ayuu yiri gudoomiyaha gobolka Banaadir oo si gaar ah u weeraray maamulka cusub ee dhowaan looga dhawaaqay magaalada Muqdisho kaasoo loo bixiyey Banaadir State.
Gudoomiyaha gobolka Banaadir ahna duqa magaalada Muqdisho ayaa digniin u diray maleeshiyada hubeysan ee amaandarida ku haya dadweynaha Muqdisho.
Abaalmarin la ballanqaaday
Tarsan wuxuu dhanka kale abaalmarin xoog leh u ballanqaaday cidii soo sheegta saraakiil ka tirsan Al-Shabaab ama meelaha ay hubka ku keydsadaan kooxaha Al-Shabaab iyo kuwa amaandarida ka wada caasimada.
Gudoomiyaha ayaa sheegay in abaalmarinta ay noqon doonto kala bar hubka ama qiimaha qalabka la helo haddii la soo sheego.
I find it funny how a people that didn`t control xamar 1 day since the coming of the Italians, claim it’s their city.
When did abgaal ever control xamar as a clan, during the civil war it was habar gedir that controlled majority of the city plus the critical economic zones
Now people think amisom will miraculously hand xamar over on a silver plate to abgaalistan.
The difference between abgaal claim over xamar and other people claim over other cities. Is other people actually are planning to control the city militarily making their claim reality.

When abgaal control xamar by themselves then their claim has basis, but don`t come here claiming stuff that is provided by the TFG an entity which is culmination of Somali effort.

Did they really think the habar gedir commanders in xamar are working day in day out to make xamar abgaal city
Hargeisa, bossosa and garowe have 1 clan that control it militarily hence their legitimacy to govern it is derived from that.
I have never taken abgaal chest beating seriously, we been hearing unuka leh xamar for ages yet we have not seen a single day that they control xamar, forget controlling merka

Tarzan is realist thinker :up:
Are you sure you are well positioned to make that sort of sweeping argument considering you are a mere Marehan whose entire regions in Gedo & Jubba were under the jurisdiction of Ceyr through the Jubba Valley Alliance from the collapse of the Siyad Barre Regime to the occupation of Ethiopian forces in 2007? Not to mention that the only thing that's defending Gedo today is the placement of couple thousand Ethiopian forces? Shouldn't you be abdicating your claim to Gedo? It's quite hilarious when folks speak through a prism they have no qualifications to speak. Mudulood controlled 80% of the districts in Mogadishu throughout the civil war, controlled the sole airport & port access to Mogadishu, the second biggest market in Somalia & politically led the city then & now. There's no Habar Gidir contesting Mogadishu. None whatsoever. That's why we run almost each & every post in Banadir as we should. Take your hallucinatory garbage somewhere else. Mudulood is today in a position where we can dictate its agenda & no force can overcome. 

You have a lot of gall criticizing Mudulood when you are a petty peasant from Gedo. Know your place. 
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Re: 39 Member Parliaments Endorse Banadir State

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RovingMadness wrote:
Eaglehawk wrote:
Muqdisho (RBC) Gudoomiyaha gobolka Banaadir Maxamuud Axmed Nuur Tarsan ayaa maanta sheegay in maamulkiisa uusan aqbali doonin in magaalada Muqdisho ay hoostagto maamul goboleed gaar ah ayna ka hor imaaneyso sharafta caasimada.
Gudoomiyaha oo maanta khudbad ka jeediyey munaasabad dadweyne badan ka soo qeybgaleen oo ka dhacday degmada Cabdicasiis ee magaalada Muqdisho ayaa sheegay in uu ka dalbaday guddiga dastuurka iyo baarlamaanka KMG ah inay soo qeexaan xeerka caasimada Soomaaliya.
“Ma dhacayso in Muqdisho ay hoostagto maamul goboleed gaar ah, caasimada Soomaaliya waxay leedahay mudnaan gaar ah waanan meel dadkoo dhan u siman yihiin, ninkii yiraahda maamul goboleed ayaan ka dhigayaa waa wax aan dhacayn.” ayuu yiri gudoomiyaha gobolka Banaadir oo si gaar ah u weeraray maamulka cusub ee dhowaan looga dhawaaqay magaalada Muqdisho kaasoo loo bixiyey Banaadir State.
Gudoomiyaha gobolka Banaadir ahna duqa magaalada Muqdisho ayaa digniin u diray maleeshiyada hubeysan ee amaandarida ku haya dadweynaha Muqdisho.
Abaalmarin la ballanqaaday
Tarsan wuxuu dhanka kale abaalmarin xoog leh u ballanqaaday cidii soo sheegta saraakiil ka tirsan Al-Shabaab ama meelaha ay hubka ku keydsadaan kooxaha Al-Shabaab iyo kuwa amaandarida ka wada caasimada.
Gudoomiyaha ayaa sheegay in abaalmarinta ay noqon doonto kala bar hubka ama qiimaha qalabka la helo haddii la soo sheego.
I find it funny how a people that didn`t control xamar 1 day since the coming of the Italians, claim it’s their city.
When did abgaal ever control xamar as a clan, during the civil war it was habar gedir that controlled majority of the city plus the critical economic zones
Now people think amisom will miraculously hand xamar over on a silver plate to abgaalistan.
The difference between abgaal claim over xamar and other people claim over other cities. Is other people actually are planning to control the city militarily making their claim reality.

When abgaal control xamar by themselves then their claim has basis, but don`t come here claiming stuff that is provided by the TFG an entity which is culmination of Somali effort.

Did they really think the habar gedir commanders in xamar are working day in day out to make xamar abgaal city
Hargeisa, bossosa and garowe have 1 clan that control it militarily hence their legitimacy to govern it is derived from that.
I have never taken abgaal chest beating seriously, we been hearing unuka leh xamar for ages yet we have not seen a single day that they control xamar, forget controlling merka

Tarzan is realist thinker :up:
Are you sure you are well positioned to make that sort of sweeping argument considering you are a mere Marehan whose entire regions in Gedo & Jubba were under the jurisdiction of Ceyr through the Jubba Valley Alliance from the collapse of the Siyad Barre Regime to the occupation of Ethiopian forces in 2007? Not to mention that the only thing that's defending Gedo today is the placement of couple thousand Ethiopian forces? Shouldn't you be abdicating your claim to Gedo? It's quite hilarious when folks speak through a prism they have no qualifications to speak. Mudulood controlled 80% of the districts in Mogadishu throughout the civil war, controlled the sole airport & port access to Mogadishu, the second biggest market in Somalia & politically led the city then & now. There's no Habar Gidir contesting Mogadishu. None whatsoever. That's why we run almost each & every post in Banadir as we should. Take your hallucinatory garbage somewhere else. Mudulood is today in a position where we can dictate its agenda & no force can overcome. 

You have a lot of gall criticizing Mudulood when you are a petty peasant from Gedo. Know your place. 
When I say mogadishu is not yours I mean, you never controlled it and never will control it as a clan
Everybody knows habar gedir controlled most of xamar before adeer liberator president cabudlahi yusuf liberated your ass
If habar gedir ruled xamar and I ruled the most powerful sub clan of habar gedir, what did that make me during the civil war in xamar
It’s called hegemon
Stop the bombastic outburst and unsubstantiated claims and show me by controlling Mogadishu as a clan otherwise stop unuka leh empty bravado because am not buying nor is tarzan buying.
Guelleh responded that in his view, the Ayr do not
have much influence. They originate
from the poorest and most desolate region of Somalia and
derive much of their authority from their affiliation with
the Marehan
. When Said Barre's regime collapsed, he
continued, the Ayr were targeted by the Hawiye and kept a
low profile. After Abdiqasim came to power, the Ayr
re-emerged and many became businessmen. Guelleh stated
that some Ayr are Islamists, such as Dahir Aweys, the head
of Al-Ittihad. Yet without the Marehan, the Ayr are
nothing and remain close to them
. Still, Guelleh said, he
would be willing "to send some messages to them.
DAS Yamamoto sought and
obtained President Guelleh's agreement to approach the Ayr
clan in Somalia with a view toward tamping down the
violence there and facilitating the reconciliation
process.Guelleh cautioned, however, that the Ayr had very
little real influence in Somalia, and derived much of its
authority from its affiliation with the Marehan.
Guelleh
described Somalia as both complicated and simple, and the
warlords as "dangerous." He also said the warlords will
never accept a central government.
Juba Vallay Allaince power structure
Golaha hogaaminta waxaa uu u dhisan yahay sidatan.

a)Generaal Axmed Warsame Maxamed Gudoomiye = Mareexaan/ Celi
b)Col: Barre Aaden shire( Hiraale) Gudoomiye ku xigeenka 1aad Mareexaan/ Reer Diini/koshin
c)Bille Cabdulle Cabdi, Gudoomiye Ku xigeenka 2aad= Mareexaan/ Reer Xasan
d)Col: Aaden Maxamed wacays( Koronto)- Gudoomiyaha Guddiga Difaaca= Mareexaan/ wagardhac/Cumardheer.
e)Yaasiin Nuur Gaas( indhoraadeer)-Gudoomoyaha Guddiga dhaqaalaha= Mareexaan/ Reer Diini/ Reer Dalal.
f)Xareed Cali durdur Gudoomiyaha guddiga Siyaasada= Mareexaan/ Reer Xasan
g)Deeq Caabi Xasan xoghayaha guud ee Golaha Hogaaminta= Mareexaan/erer Diini/Reer dalal


3.Taliska Ciidamada isbahaysiga dooxada jubba

Taliska Ciidamada isbahaysiga dooxada jubba waxaa uu soo maray isbadaloo kala duwan oo waafaqsan isbadalada habka jabhadeed ee isbahaysiga dooxada jubba Maanta saraakiisha taliska ama ragga ugu sareeya waa sidatan

a)Maxamed Rooble Jimcaale( goobaale) taliyaha Ciidamada= Cayr/ cabsiiye/ Xasan leey
b) C/laahi sheikh ismaacil( fartaag) Abaanduulaha Ciidamada= Mareexaan/ Reer Diini/ Reer Ugas sharmarke.
c)Col: Ismaaciil Khaliif shire Taliyaha Ciidamada Badda= Mareexaan/ Reer Diini/ Reer Siyaad.
d)C/laahi M Maxamed-Aar( Fanax) Taliyaha Ciidamada Ammaanka= Mareexaan/Reer Diini/Reer siyaad.
e)Cabaas Ibraahim Gureey Taliyaha Ciidanka garoonka= Mareexaan Talxe
f)Maxamed Cadow Cali( sanka) afhayenka Ciidamada= Mareexaan/ Reer Diini/ Reer Ugas Sharmarke
Taliska Ciidamada waxaa kale oo uu leeyahay taliyeyaasha Guutooyinka iyo kuwa talisyada.
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why you had to bring habargidir in to the equation iska dhici ninka f-king dumb ilkayar :x :x
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faraaxoos1 wrote:eaglehork
why you had to bring habargidir in to the equation iska dhici ninka f-king dumb ilkayar :x :x
hawiye with or without a tail is the same shit to me, habar gedir so maha hiraab, hiraab wa mid aan rarto iyo mid aan dilo
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Eaglehawk wrote:
faraaxoos1 wrote:eaglehork
why you had to bring habargidir in to the equation iska dhici ninka f-king dumb ilkayar :x :x
hawiye with or without a tail is the same shit to me, habar gedir so maha hiraab, hiraab wa mid aan rarto iyo mid aan dilo
koobka faanka waad jabiiseen marka lama yabiin waxaad soo qortay :lol: :lol:
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Eaglehawk wrote:
faraaxoos1 wrote:eaglehork
why you had to bring habargidir in to the equation iska dhici ninka f-king dumb ilkayar :x :x
hawiye with or without a tail is the same shit to me, habar gedir so maha hiraab, hiraab wa mid aan rarto iyo mid aan dilo
Wasn’t` abgaal singing "ki jabaye ha jabo jaale siyaad aa la jirna" while habar gedir in mudug where tasting safte kacaanka
During the civil war wasn`t cayr following my orders and weren’t they killing and blundering abgaal

"alleyle hiraab wa la guursaday" wa gabay nin reer siyaad tiriyay in early 1900s, when they attacked hiraab and blundered their livestock
my Stories have basis and sources my young court jester
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here is gabay oo lo tiryay hawiye and their mooryaan dimeed in 2006, the legendery marexaan future perspective mind is in display
Deelayda gabay waanigii daadahayn jiraye
daruusteeda waataan wax badan daalib ku ahaaye
dig ri,waanigii qaatay iyo darajo waawayn e

dan na wowga baxayoo baryahan daayay hadalkeede
hayeeshee dareen wax igashoon, diiday baajire e
deelqaaf weeye bacadloow, waxaad daabacdookale e

hadaad adigu dool iyo kutimid, dab iyo baaruuda
asaad qiratay daarood, inuu daginku kiisiiyah
danbi weeye hadalada kalood, dabadhigaysaaye

diintii islaamkiyo hadaad, daacada ujeedo
oo aadan dariiqii hawiye, dacalka saaraynin
dadka maadan boobteen ,intaad duub u xirataaye


diinkiyo adoon kalamarin, damaca reer kiina
hadaad dooni wada saarto ood. dibad u iibgayso
dubaaquu kasoobaxay caqligu, daahir mahayn e

waligiinba door baad kacdaan, sida dabayshiiye
daf daftiina badan baa ayaan, laladakaamaaye
diraacdana masoodaaftidoo, digo mareebtaane

caydiid doraad bay ahayd, daqara diisiiye
dagaalbadan wixii uugalee, dirir kuliibaanay
maadhow dux kama uusan helin ,dunida waagiiye

daahirkiyo aways kaanu waa ,labo daqiiqoode
dakan kiyo wuxuu badinayaa daynka iin qorane
talo daa in tiyo kuma ogayn, darar ikhyaareede

waa nin darajo raadinahayoo, diin gabaad sadaye
asaga iyo wixii dabagalaa wax isma doorshaane
darsin adag ninkii aan udhigin, dayni mahayaane
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Eaglehawk wrote:
Eaglehawk wrote:
faraaxoos1 wrote:eaglehork
why you had to bring habargidir in to the equation iska dhici ninka f-king dumb ilkayar :x :x
hawiye with or without a tail is the same shit to me, habar gedir so maha hiraab, hiraab wa mid aan rarto iyo mid aan dilo
Wasn’t` abgaal singing "ki jabaye ha jabo jaale siyaad aa la jirna" while habar gedir in mudug where tasting safte kacaanka
During the civil war wasn`t cayr following my orders and weren’t they killing and blundering abgaal

"alleyle hiraab wa la guursaday" wa gabay nin reer siyaad tiriyay in early 1900s, when they attacked hiraab and blundered their livestock
my Stories have basis and sources my young court jester
sxb maliin walba ayanle ceyr ayaa dhagaha ka garaco mareexaanka cabudwaaq iyo gehto adigana you saying we order habargidir around nacas foqal nacas
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where was cayr when I was killing col shabeel :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
futo madoobe dadkaga dinac ka raac amarkana gaado doodna waan soo xiray
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Eaglehawk wrote:where was cayr when I was killing col shabeel :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
futo madoobe dadkaga dinac ka raac amarkana gaado doodna waan soo xiray
ok why do the mareexaans cry every time there is small conflict between them and ceyr??
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Eaglehwk,


It's amazing the bloated significance people give themselves on the Internet. Here we have a member of clan who was almost entirely misplaced & exiled out of Somalia only to be used as pawns & agent provocateurs by the same militias that humiliated them & their 21 year old dictatorship in the first place celebrating this humiliation as some sort of achievement. Even the articles you bring to substantiate your silly revisionism state early that Marehan interests were driven by the politics of survival Ceyr militias almost single-handedly defeated Morgan & the Harti militias out of the Jubba Valley and used their military power to enrich themselves from the charcoal trade & Kismayo port. The deputy chairman & financial portfolios were controlled by Ceyr- a clan who had ZERO membership in the region it was controlling. How do you explain this? 


Aside from the Harti and Marehan, the main group of newcomers are the Habir Gidir and other Hawiye who came in 1991-1993 as General "Aydeed" drove Siad Barre and General Morgan (Majerteen) out. On the last occasion when General Morgan moved towards the town in 2000/2001, a force of 60 Ayr technicals was raised by the Ayr courts in Mogadishu and Merka with the support of Mohamed Deilaf and other interested businessmen. 

Mohamed Deilaf's interests include the import of sugar from Brazil en route for Kenya. The JVA is currently headed by Colonel Barre Adam Shire "Hiraale" (Marehan), but remains dependent upon Ayr business interests and the associated Ayr militia; while this is the case, Marehan and Ayr can be expected to co-operate. Attempts to set up an Islamic court, however, will upset the local consensus and is likely to lead to infighting between Marehan and Ayr.
When the ICU came along, Ceyr ditched Marehan & Col Sareer led the ICU militias that defeated his old agent Hiraale out of Kismayo. Basically, the old stuff about use & abuse. Today Hiraale is under Ethiopian house-arrest & Kismaayo is out of his hands. As I said you have a lot of gall equating the historical embarrassment your clan suffered & insulting Mudulood.

I brought down the entire military machine of Habar Gidir & it's affiliated allies on my own & controlled upwards of 80% of Mogadishu. 

Kaaran
Yaaqshiid
Waaberi 
Boondheere
Shibis
Madina
Dharkenley 
Shangaani
Abdi-Aziiz

And co-ruled large parts of Hodan, Wardhigley & Huriwa. That was the political reality in Mogadishu throughout the civil war. Economically, Mudulood controlled Mogadishu's only port & Airport and exclusively held the Middle Shabelle Valley- the breadbasket of Somalia. So, my clan was not humiliated on the battlefield & my people did not have to run on handmade boats to Kenya. Yours did. So, you should be the last person using Habar Gidir as an argument. 

The civil war was series of battles waged to implement varying clan agendas. My clan agenda was always simple: to restore the political, social & military leadership of Mudulood in Mogadishu. Today these core objectives are achieved. What did your clan achieve from the civil war other than humiliation at the hands of one Jufo of Habar Gidir?

Lol@ AY, the simple fact that a Mudulood Prime Minister on one hand & a Mudulood leader of the ICU engineered the collapse of the Abdullahi Yusuf government & departure of the Ethiopian troops is enough to prove that my objectives were not dependent on any outside force.

Ps

Lol@ using the grand Welcome your clan leaders, women & children threw for Muse Sudi Yalaxow. You had to shut-down the entire city just to accommodate him & you have the audacity to say Mudulood is not powerful. Fantastic LOL
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bro stop the rant I don`t believe non what you said
you write for the sake o writting, your argument has no basis and no rational pattern, you remind me of vicky pollard character of little brittian
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