Graphic video frm Paris attack today ( people gettng shot)

[SahanGalbeed]

I feel for my "douce France , cher pays de mon enfance " , when you have three little juvenile {what would otherwise be considered} "internet " trolls disturbing the peace like that. Europe, old Europe has gone through all the debates you currently are having here my friends , and after many carnage , death , wars they have come up with the system they currently have . It is okay to disagree , push/defend your ideas or beliefs whatever they may be , demand to be included , however the line has to be drawn somewhere . When you call somebody a "nigger" , that's a real person in front of you . When you praise or glorify the death of millions of jews , the survivors are still among us here on Earth . You can't just kill someone because he's insulted the prophet of Islam . Those times are gone , it is not how the modern world works , sorry !

I don't like it therefore I must shut you down !! <--- NO!
I don't like it but you have a right to express it { just as I have the right to say what you may not like } <-- YES !

[FieldMarshalMenace]

Sahan..adigana ma ka baxdey diinta!

[Basra-]

The video where the cop was shot cold bloodedness gave me an orgasm.

[original dervish]

But he didn't have his truncheon out.

[Firefly]

https://www.facebook.com/ImamWaleed/pos ... nref=story

Now here we go again! In regards to the Paris attacks, while I did not anticipate that the next incident will happen in France, the laws of probability dictate that every few months, based on the size of our world and the oppression that exists, an attack is bound to happen somewhere on this planet, and this same terrible cycle will keep repeating itself (make sure to read number 10):

1- Some fanatics somewhere will kill civilians in the name of a religion, ideology, or just out of pure anger.

2- The international media will either call it "an isolated incident by a lunatic fanatic" or a "terrorist attack" depending on who did it.

3- In the first case (anyone other than Muslims), the media will mention it either briefly or largely, depending on the size of the incident and the juicy details, but people will mourn for a few days then move on shortly after.

4- In the second case where the attackers happen to be Muslims (regardless of their belief being the cause), the news will make it to every front page and the highlight of the breaking news segment.

5- Muslim religious leaders (including myself) will come out in large to condemn the attacks, but since their access to mainstream media is limited, their voices will not reach too far (Leaders of other religions however, rarely apologize, even when the attackers quote their religion, because people don't generalize about others).

6- People in large will be outraged against Muslims, and will split between those who are just and won't generalize, and those who have been conditioned by society to spread hate and overgeneralize, or are simply confused by false information.

7- A backlash will happen in which Muslim looking people (or anyone with "their" skin colour, as if they have one!) will be attacked in the streets and near the Mosques. Right wing extremists will take every chance to pass their agenda and spread even more hate. That hate, will breed more hate among some Muslims who will feel more oppressed and targeted.

8- Laws will be passed to make life more difficult for peaceful practicing Muslims (and everyone else de facto), both in Western countries and even in some Muslim majority countries. Those laws will include more surveillance powers for those who are hungry for power and have an agenda, slowly justifying more mass spying and mass discrimination.

9- After a few months, somewhere in this huge world, another uncontrolled and unpreventable incident will happen somewhere else, and the whole cycle of hate will repeat, but the intensity of the cycle will gradually increase, because as long as oppression and hate exists, violence (justified or not) will co-exist too!

10- Number 10, and this is the most dangerous of all, is that at some point, the outrage will reach a critical point, where people who have been feed hate by the media will feel that enough is enough and will start to act irrationally and violently on a wide scale, calling for mass harm against Muslims. History shows us that this has happened many times before to many ethnicities, and not so long ago!

Therefore, the question for all Muslim leaders and people of justice is: how do we plan to break this vicious cycle before it reaches the dangerous critical point? It's time to hold the wheel of a sinking ship and steer it in the right direction to prevent the storm from flipping the entire ship. And for that to happen, we all need to put our hands together, and draft and implement systematic and well researched long term solutions beyond just the typical, usual, and automatic condemnation!

If we want humanity to learn that Islam is the religion of peace (out of honour and respect, not out of apologies and weakness like we say it today), then we need to move beyond words and into action. Humanity needs to see it, not hear it. Lets move beyond slogans. At the same time, hate from the other side has to stop too, and the media needs to grow up and be more responsible.

While nothing justifies any violence on civilians, if you keep referring to attacks on Muslims as "freedom of speech", and attacks on all other religions and races as "hate speech", then this duality and double standards will increase the hate, and hate breeds hate. We will do our part to educate people and stop (or at least minimize) the hate and violence, but in order for us to succeed, you need to help us and do your part to stop the seeds of hate by being more consistent and balanced in your loose definition about freedom of speech. Otherwise, we all loose. Peace!

Sh. Waleed Abdul Hakeem' s FB page

[Alshabaibe]

So the gunman won't forget his shoe but conveniently forgets his ID in the car?

Who comes with identification to a preconceived attack?

Reminds me of 9/11 - passports flying out of building/aeroplane in pristine condition while everything else burns to smithereens.

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

So the gunman won't forget his shoe but conveniently forgets his ID in the car?

Who comes with identification to a preconceived attack?

Reminds me of 9/11 - passports flying out of building/aeroplane in pristine condition while everything else burns to smithereens.

[jalaaludin5]

https://www.facebook.com/ImamWaleed/pos ... nref=story



Therefore, the question for all Muslim leaders and people of justice is: how do we plan to break this vicious cycle before it reaches the dangerous critical point? It's time to hold the wheel of a sinking ship and steer it in the right direction to prevent the storm from flipping the entire ship. And for that to happen, we all need to put our hands together, and draft and implement systematic and well researched long term solutions beyond just the typical, usual, and automatic condemnation!

As long as people like Anjam Choudary is let loose and given air time to spew out his nonsense nothing will change.

As long as muslims are only one in the Mosques and become different communities outside (in our case reer hebel iyo reer hebel in the local coffee shop) with no real and tangible unity, nothing will change.

As long as our Muslim scholars who work with local government authorities are looked upon with suspicious eyes (sell out/scholars for dollars/ Home Office Imaams) and give more weight to the opinions of local nut jobs, nothing will change.

As long as the sad condition of the Ummah and the impotence of muslim leaders is excused with "western oppressions"
backed with free masson/illuminati and wild conspiracy sermon from youtube, nothing will change.

As long as muslim communities with existing organizations are not visible in the community involved and ENGAGING THE YOUTH (whom prisons have became their second/vacation home) nothing will change.

And as long one thing muslim men seem to be in agreement and eager to discuss is SISTER WITH TIGHT JEANS, while never acknowledging their failure and accept the fact that they fell asleep in their shift, nothing will change.
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UBUNTU!!!

[SahanGalbeed]

[quote="FieldMarshalMenace"]Sahan..adigana ma ka baxdey diinta![/quote]
Laba mid aan kaga jawaabo.
1/ kalmadaha " gosh! " iyo "jeez!" xaggey kala yimaadeen gaaladu miyaad ogtahay ? Ninki " God!" ama "Jesus Christ!!" yidhahda ,blasphemy baa lagu xukumi jiray , inta carab-ka laga jaro . Marka , anigu I worship Allah and I love his prophet Mohamed , lakin , nin baan ku dilaya Ilaah ama nebigi bu caayay , ka nool halkan ku badbaadin laha baa iga haboon aniga .
2/ Midda kale waxa weeye , dinteenu , Europe tariikhdeeda marka la eego , occupation force bey 400 sanadood ku ahayd . The Kings of England { the plantagenets} markay laba nin oo inadeer ah , xukunka isku laayan , ka baxsanaya , musliminta Spain jooga ayuu isu dhiibi jiray , ma garatay ? Gaalada 'political force bay u tahay dinta islaam-ku , nebigeenuna political figure " , ma' fahantay ? Tariikhda gaalada ninki boqor-ka caaya , qoor-ta ayaa la gaabin jiray , that's where they come from , and that's why they resent our position , ma' garatay?
Marka tolerance iyo compromise , ninki waddankisa ka so baxay ayaa laga raba .
Intaas weeye arrintu , markey sheeko caruureed ka laga gudbo .
have a good day .

[original dervish]

I can understand the white Europeans mourning.....but why are Muslims/blacks all over the world mourning for them?
We have millions of Muslims/Africans dead that nobody mourns for.

Only 12 people were killed.....just 12 for goodness sake.

[KnowThySelf23]

I can understand the white Europeans mourning.....but why are Muslims/blacks all over the world mourning for them?
We have millions of Muslims/Africans dead that nobody mourns for.

Only 12 people were killed.....just 12 for goodness sake.

I'm going to say the same thing when i kill 12 of your family members

[original dervish]

KTS23......mourn for them if you like....your nothing but a coconut atheist.
Just don't expect the rest of us to weep & wail with you.
PS I wouldn't be surprised if you lit candles for the dead.

[KnowThySelf23]

KTS23......mourn for them if you like....your nothing but a coconut atheist.
Just don't expect the rest of us to weep & wail with you.
PS I wouldn't be surprised if you lit candles for the dead.

im not mourning random people dying...but have respect for the innocent people dead...smh....just because they aren't muslim doesn't mean they deserve to die...wtf is wrong with you? might as well join al kabab while your at it....blow your self up so i don't have to read your ignorance

[Methylamine]

For those who say that the cartoonists deserved to die

[Lancer]

^this