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zumaale wrote: I ain't got time to entertain you, now jog on.

What? All I stated was a simple, harmless, and indisputable fact. Are you really that damn sensitive that you consider anyone who mentions a fact about the real world you don't like must be "trolling" you?

SteadyState the most cancerous troll of this forum.

zumaale wrote:

Bari14 wrote:I can claim my paternal line to the original Warsangeli Sultanate Line (Reer Fatax Garad). My maternal line is Ogayslabe (Reer Guleed Ali). Haven't been on this for a while but just wanted know if you guys have any info on these two tribes? Also what would be the best dna test to try for. Also is it really true Warsangelis are J1's

Both E-V32 and J are found among Warsangelis. To begin researching what Warsangeli subclans possess J, start off by asking Garad-LQ and another member called Oldenglish for their respective subclans. You can also contact James Dahl to find out what subclans the E-V32 Warsangelis that shared their results with him belong to. Do the test yourself as you might encounter more Warsangelis on your relatives list. Lastly, if they are willing, ask the others Snetters that are on 23andme if they have any Warsangeli relatives in their lists. Bear in mind that their relatives might be duplicates of the same relative.

I think I found my first Warsangeli relative on 23andme and he's E-V32 I share 4 segment and 74% with him , my highest , I sent a request waiting for his reply
I could be an anomaly , I think most Warsangeli are e1b1b1a1b , no different then the rest of Harti

Bari14 , If you wonna do the test used 23andme as Itrah said , it's only 100 dollars

Garaad_LQ wrote:

I could be anomaly , I think most Warsangeli are no different then the rest of Harti

I think so too bro but to be sure I think it is best for one to record the subclan of each individual Warsangeli test result, that way you can possibly get a better picture of whether one subclan deviates from the norm or a few individuals here and there. Even a coastal MJ subclan member tested positive for J-haplogroup so it might be the result of maritime trade.

I must also add that inland clans such as the Garre of Moyale/Marsabit also possess haplogroup J but at only five percent according to one study so it is not necessarily restricted to coastal Somalis.

If I am not mistaken I once read a post you made on Snet in which you stated that a close match of yours was a Yemeni. Can you please elaborate on that bro.

Zumaale, I'm pretty sure that at this point there are enough Somali people tested on 23andme and Family tree that we can deduce the makeup of the larger clans. What is actually needed is a project of some sort that compiles that info.

Btw the reason that the Garre may have some J is most likely assimilation of some Oromo groups. Garre are basically Somalis who have had centuries of rubbing up against Oromo. Their principal component graphs say as much.

Warsangelis in my opinion are largely South Arabian Semites like Mahris and Socotrans that intermingled and intermarried Somalis for hundreds of years. That would explain some of their looks and dna results.

zumaale wrote:

Garaad_LQ wrote:

I could be anomaly , I think most Warsangeli are no different then the rest of Harti

I think so too bro but to be sure I think it is best for one to record the subclan of each individual Warsangeli test result, that way you can possibly get a better picture of whether one subclan deviates from the norm or a few individuals here and there. Even a coastal MJ subclan member tested positive for J-haplogroup so it might be the result of maritime trade.

I must also add that inland clans such as the Garre of Moyale/Marsabit also possess haplogroup J but at only five percent according to one study so it is not necessarily restricted to coastal Somalis.

If I am not mistaken I once read a post you made on Snet in which you stated that a close match of yours was a Yemeni. Can you please elaborate on that bro.

Indeed we need more people to take the test .

Yeah my close matches are from Yemeni tribe called khawlan

https://www.familytreedna.com/public/J- ... n=yresults
i'm on page 5 second cluster from the bottom kit# N93003

thegoodshepherd wrote:Zumaale, I'm pretty sure that at this point there are enough Somali people tested on 23andme and Family tree that we can deduce the makeup of the larger clans. What is actually needed is a project of some sort that compiles that info..

Clans that have settled in the West only. In order to get a complete set of results, all Somali subclans should be examined.

thegoodshepherd wrote:Btw the reason that the Garre may have some J is most likely assimilation of some Oromo groups. Garre are basically Somalis who have had centuries of rubbing up against Oromo. Their principal component graphs say as much.

The Oromos that they became aligned with (Boran) have not had much contact with Semitic speakers. It is the Macha and Tulama that absorbed Habasha highlanders. That does not necessarily mean those highlanders all had Semitic origins but it is reasonably plausible that many were not assimilated Cushites.

I cannot hazard a guess as to where the Garre obtained it from.

Garaad_LQ wrote:

zumaale wrote:

Garaad_LQ wrote:

I could be anomaly , I think most Warsangeli are no different then the rest of Harti

I think so too bro but to be sure I think it is best for one to record the subclan of each individual Warsangeli test result, that way you can possibly get a better picture of whether one subclan deviates from the norm or a few individuals here and there. Even a coastal MJ subclan member tested positive for J-haplogroup so it might be the result of maritime trade.

I must also add that inland clans such as the Garre of Moyale/Marsabit also possess haplogroup J but at only five percent according to one study so it is not necessarily restricted to coastal Somalis.

If I am not mistaken I once read a post you made on Snet in which you stated that a close match of yours was a Yemeni. Can you please elaborate on that bro.

Indeed we need more people to take the test .

Yeah my close matches are from Yemeni tribe called khawlan

https://www.familytreedna.com/public/J- ... n=yresults
i'm on page 5 second cluster from the bottom kit# N93003

Shukran Ya Ibn khawlan.

The type of evidence produced by your test results indicates a direct link to Yemen bro. Your STR's and theirs match perfectly.

Nigga, you are the only verified connection to Jazeerat Al Carab among the Somalis on Snet that claim they are descended from Arabs.

Lol , i'm happy with being Somali , I hope I wouldn't be kicked out from Warsangelinimo iyo hartinimo for being sheegad ,
at least my autosomal is 100% Somali that's what really matters

You will be alright bro, the likes of GoodShepherd look up to your Arab roots and will exclaim that you are the only genuine Darood and that they are Oromo Sheegads .

zumaale wrote:You will be alright bro, the likes of GoodShepherd look up to your Arab roots and will exclaim that you are the only genuine Darood and that they are Oromo Sheegads .

I doubt the sub-branch under E-V32 of Darods has any connection with Oromos.
The E-V32 Darods may be of the same macro clan as the Hawiye. That would be fun if it were true.

Damn it, they should make complete Y tests cheap.

zumaale wrote:You will be alright bro, the likes of GoodShepherd look up to your Arab roots and will exclaim that you are the only genuine Darood and that they are Oromo Sheegads .

Itrah wrote:

zumaale wrote:You will be alright bro, the likes of GoodShepherd look up to your Arab roots and will exclaim that you are the only genuine Darood and that they are Oromo Sheegads .

I doubt the sub-branch under E-V32 of Darods has any connection with Oromos.
The E-V32 Darods may be of the same macro clan as the Hawiye. That would be fun if it were true.

Damn it, they should make complete Y tests cheap.

I was making a joke, chill bro.

Hawiyes are the missing link, they are not bothered with DNA tests sadly. Why don't academics do a study on Somalis from South/Central Somalia ?

zumaale wrote:I was making a joke, chill bro.

I know.

zumaale wrote:Hawiyes are the missing link, they are not bothered with DNA tests sadly.

There's quite a few of them on 23andMe. Results are basically the same as the Darods.

zumaale wrote:Why don't academics do a study on Somalis from South/Central Somalia ?

Low priority. And they don't want to fuel clan warfare fire, my guess.