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Posted: **Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:25 pm**

I wish Galla and Afars to 'liberate' the Somali towns they annexed but I don't think the Galla admin is so stupid to do that .

No one is against the cencus .Let it come .I'm against the Galla-Jeegaan fuelled hostilities in the region .

Just that .

Posted: **Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:27 pm**

ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:16 pm
Waachis wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:52 pm
ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:39 pm

These Galla should've rested and united with Somalis to oppress Habesha. Instead like the Hutus, they are they went on tryna fight us! They remind alot of Hutu. They share an immediate ancestor I believe. Wallahi Galla are the definition of 68IQ Ina adeer.
boon boy boon boy boon boy, u are confused as usual!

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today, we are focusing on the amhara extremists, language issues, the capital city, and so on.
amhara elites and their kind, are our mortal enemies-not somalis. somalis are not our priority, as an enemy, never has, never will be.
hence the reason why my clan, other clans, do not interfere in the OCCASIONAL conflicts between garre fi borana, marehan fi borana, and so on, and so forth. to us, it's like two brothers fighting, u either make peace, or stand aside and let them duke it out.
tell me, where is an ongoing conflict going on right now, between us? there are none. there maybe some issues we have, but it's upon us to work on those issues and find a permanent, long lasting, solution.

kkkk, miskeen, u mistake a few border skirmishes, back and forth tit for tat things, for a nation of 40 million waging war on u?
that's obviously you guys being overly emotional. if oromo told liyyu polis to go away and that oromo and somali are brothers-how can u mistake that for hate or wars on you? d

do not sit here and tell me guys, that siad barre didn't want to annex, illegally, half of oromia, large parts of afar land, and so on?
that's why the OLF/IFLO did not work fully with him-it was mistrust. meanwhile, your own isaaq brother back then said hey the oromo are getting strong and resisting their habesha oppressors who got european aid, let us aid them??
the marehan elites said no: let us do the same thing the habesha oppressors did, and illegally claim their land, and try to force them to be somali.
this is why the relationship failed. had we cooperated like tplf and eplf, we could have caused way more damage.
oromo manpower + somali ports and arms + somali bravery + oromo bravery=done deal.
but the greed of a few marehan elites led to not only a breakdown of relations between somalias govt and oromos, but it led to SNM, USC, and a million other somali militias with technicals being formed.
Siad Barre pitied you fools. Isaaq doesn't care about you or even knows you exist. You're a pawn they are using to get back at me, a laandheere Darood Ismail Al Jabarti . They are women and cry like ones too. They can't fight me or Ogaden. The other Daroods are getting rich off their delusions. Speaking of annexation. All of Hararghe belongs to me and all the Afaan Qallu there are originally Somali. Therefore, you expanded at my expense. Dir Dhabe is a Somali city and belongs to Issa. You forced Somali clans to speak your barbaric tongue. Now you think you can overthrow Ogaden and install puppet Isaaqs and fake Dir so you can expand to our coastline?

I know Ogaden. They are my family. They are Darood and they are the best fighters besides Mareexaan. We took land from you in Jubaland. Don't think for a minute, that you can win a war against Darood. We fought numerous world powers each on a sub clan basis. So like I said. Tell us what you want or Gtfoh. You're a OPDO lackey.

I support real Oromos in the OLF not Amharized Oromos like you!

If there was a noble peace prize for empty bravados, this guys would win it all the time.

Posted: **Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:02 pm**

Somalis are ungrateful punch of hypocrites, without the bravery of your perceived enemy (Oromo), you would still be in the shackles of the Tigray and Abdi Ilay. The Oromo are the best thing that ever happened to Somalis in zone five.
Somalis on the border have been living peacefully with their Oromo neighbors for centuries and these politicized border skirmishes started in Abdi Ilay’s reign. As someone who has a family members (to be precise an uncles) living in Babili for centuries, I can attest to fact that the two communities are happy to have each other as neighbors.

I need to understand where are these imaginary powerful Habasha who can come to power at will and capable of enslaving Oromo and everyone else? The politics of the region has changed, and the biggest benefactors of this change is Oromo and if some of you think few Amhara elites will easily conquer and subjugate 40 million Oromos in this day and age is beyond lunacy.

As far as the Dir and Oromo collaboration goes, the Dir will be the sole losers if the long-planned enmity between the Dir and their counterpart Oromos prolongs any longer so its in their best interests to work with the Oromos.
The ones that are calling for the hostility between Oromo and Somalis are warmongers and their sole purpose is to drive a wedged between the two communities. The few sell out Garxajis of the Isaaq who are booty-clapping for the Cagdheer in opposing the Oromo are doing so because they think the perceived Jeegaan are behind all this. Even the Cagdheer think the Jeegaan has hand in this.
On the other hand, the Ogden knows how formidable united Dir would be to their illegitimate domination of the Zone five. That is why they are calling upon the Somalis day and night to unite against their perceived common enemy (Oromo in this case) but their calling means nothing because it lacks sincerity.

To make long story short, Oromo are here to stay, and Somalis best interest would be to working with them. Those of you who think their rise will be short live are day dreaming, the Oromo of today are not the Oromo of yesterday, Oromo are more united and nationalistic and more determined than ever to not lose grip on their newly found power.

Posted: **Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:21 pm**

It's in my interest to be friendly with the Oromos. They are the future of Ethiopia. As a Habar Awal I would like to remind the Oromos of our historical interactions via trade especially in Nazreth. I would also like to give muslim oromos citizenship in SL and incorporate them in SL armies!

Viva Somaliland! Viva Ethiopia! Viva Oromia!

Posted: **Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:21 pm**

zidane88 wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:15 am
Waachis wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 12:50 pm
zidane88 wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2019 3:52 am Your bitterness is seen on the space. Mustafe knows who the bigwigs are and putting his card right.
He is making an alliance with those who make you a minority in your biggest city, Addis-ababa, hence the bitterness.
http://worldpopulationreview.com/world- ... opulation/
I am not bitter at all. I do not care if this man wants to be a slave to Amharas, he has every right to be a slave to whom he wishes.
But, I know the Somali masses in general, would not accept such a thing, regardless of whatever issues they may have with Oromos.
Doqonkii's like you are too blinded by hatred and clan-ism, to see these things, hence the reason why the Oromos had to free you from being slaves to a christian general from tigray and abdi illey who would sell your mothers and daughters to them, for power and money.
gaala Boy, you were always slave and will be, don't let few days of power deceive you. It is crumbling in front of our own eyes. Tigre region is untouchable, Wallega is under militia so is Southern nations, Somali region have fingers on the triggers, Amhara are undermining your slave gaala Abiye, and look what your resorted to after being made minority in Addis ababa. You should bury your head in shame.
https://mereja.com/index/270575

Doqokii boy,

You were just a slave until we freed you from tplf. they were torturing you, your mother, your father, while abdi illey laughed in the background.
and you didn't do anything to stop it. so i do not take your idle threats or talks, seriously.

Tigray region-you have no idea how hard life is there. the food prices have skyrocketed. they have their own problems.
it's in Oromo interests to let them be strong, because they will not invade oromia, they will invade amharas, which does not concern us, if they fight. tigray took their rich fertile lands of raya/welkait, and as u can see, amharas cannot do anything but cry about it.
amharas are potentially sandwiched-sudan to the west hates them, tplf hates them, oromos are watching carefully, the agew/qimant (cushitic minority groups in amhara state) are fighting bravely against them, look at the news, over 100,000 mostly amharas displaced in gondar alone due to this fighting.
as long as oromos control wallaga-that's all that matters. we will not fight each other, as u see already, but we will fight anyone else who invades us.
somali region is not gonna fight oromos, we all know that. it's not in either of our interests. you can wish all u want, but it won't happen.
and as u can see, PM ABIY speech said it's time to end this nonsense of amhara extremists in addis ababa.
u have no idea what's going on bro-we surround addis ababa in the millions, we can easily cut off food, water, everything to the city, to the point it collapses and is no longer viable.
oromo power is beyond your comprehension.

Posted: **Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:28 pm**

DayrBare wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:02 pm Somalis are ungrateful punch of hypocrites, without the bravery of your perceived enemy (Oromo), you would still be in the shackles of the Tigray and Abdi Ilay. The Oromo are the best thing that ever happened to Somalis in zone five.
Somalis on the border have been living peacefully with their Oromo neighbors for centuries and these politicized border skirmishes started in Abdi Ilay’s reign. As someone who has a family members (to be precise an uncles) living in Babili for centuries, I can attest to fact that the two communities are happy to have each other as neighbors.

I need to understand where are these imaginary powerful Habasha who can come to power at will and capable of enslaving Oromo and everyone else? The politics of the region has changed, and the biggest benefactors of this change is Oromo and if some of you think few Amhara elites will easily conquer and subjugate 40 million Oromos in this day and age is beyond lunacy.

As far as the Dir and Oromo collaboration goes, the Dir will be the sole losers if the long-planned enmity between the Dir and their counterpart Oromos prolongs any longer so its in their best interests to work with the Oromos.
The ones that are calling for the hostility between Oromo and Somalis are warmongers and their sole purpose is to drive a wedged between the two communities. The few sell out Garxajis of the Isaaq who are booty-clapping for the Cagdheer in opposing the Oromo are doing so because they think the perceived Jeegaan are behind all this. Even the Cagdheer think the Jeegaan has hand in this.
On the other hand, the Ogden knows how formidable united Dir would be to their illegitimate domination of the Zone five. That is why they are calling upon the Somalis day and night to unite against their perceived common enemy (Oromo in this case) but their calling means nothing because it lacks sincerity.

To make long story short, Oromo are here to stay, and Somalis best interest would be to working with them. Those of you who think their rise will be short live are day dreaming, the Oromo of today are not the Oromo of yesterday, Oromo are more united and nationalistic and more determined than ever to not lose grip on their newly found power.

Any sane Somali will choose Oromo over the Habesha .No one is ungrateful to the Galla lead change in the whole of Ethiopia .

The point is ,Why Ormo is driving a wedge between the Somali ? It is no secret that they organized the Dir meeting with HA tycoons in order to destabilize the region for their own materialistic purposes to control trade .

If you're relatives in Baabili thousands of Ogaden lived in Balbalyti .That's deep inside Oromo territory .

Another important question to the Galla and their minions is, why Abiye is blocking a real change to happen in the region .Why going the biased way of selective detentions ? Doesn't that mean ,Galla want emulate their former masters and implement the divide and conquer tactics .In fact ,Oromo dreams will only benefits the 40million Galla masses who will run riot in expanding into Somali region and a few sadistic HA businessmen who already owned the secessionist enclave with their economic edge.They do convince the sheeplike iidoors with emotional whims such as the jews-esque "Holocaust of 88" and fighting Daarood bogeyman .

I will repeat it for clarity .Ogaden and any other Somali clan will obviously prefer the Galla over the Habesha but the Galla should not block the change that is beneficial to every Somali .Gallas should not interfere with the internal issues of the regions .They're doing anything possible and going extra mile to unite their clans through their Aba Gadaas (council of elders ).40 millions Gallas would like to unite their divergent tribes but the same guys want disunite the Somalis.The million dollar question is ,who are real benefactors if Dir and Ogaden ever fight or disagree on everything in the region ?

Ogaden ,Ciise ,Jidwaaq are all saying NOOO to Galla emulating their Tigre masters .If we don't agree with the policies of Lemma and Abiye ,that doesn't mean we hate Gallas .

Posted: **Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:31 pm**

It is comical how keyboard warrior S/net kids write their fantasies here.
For a start, this Gaala-led government made a U-Turn about its national census programme, which intended for land-grabs after a rejection from all Kilils. Weakness point one.
https://mereja.com/index/270163

Secondly Oromos are not united. It was almost 2 months ago when Federal army (OPD) led attacked OLF positions in Wallega, and since then they can't see eye to eye, and Wallega is in OLF hands.
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-ethio ... KKCN1PA2LB

the situation right now, Oromos divided. Abiye is with his beloved Neftegya Amharas, who are doing everything to destroy OLF, and using a tactic to pressure Abiye to do more for the destruction of OLF. Look at this topic they focus mainly one conflict where they didn't even mention the displaced Somalis at all.
https://borkena.com/2019/03/22/ethiopia ... ams-gov-t/

As far as leading party (EPRDF) is concerned, they merely changed shirts from Tigre to Oromo but that doesn't mean that all Oromos are onboard.
There's tug-of war of who belongs Addis ababa where Amharas are claiming it as Ethiopian city and them of being majority, Oromo have their own idea of it calling it Finfine...city of their own.

I haven't even mentioned a whole of Tigre region where the government can't have a say. Abiye needs more than miracles to solve the pandora box that have opened.

Posted: **Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:41 pm**

Gaal Boy. You can bark all you want, The truth is there in front of you. Gaala man confessing in front of national TV about Oromos distributing fake IDs to make themselves majority in Addis ababa. How can a man made minority in his capital freed me? Talk is cheap, the truth is out for everyone to see. Why saying "if wollega is safe" have you forfeited your beloved Finfine to Amharas? You get nerve of steel coming here and calling that you freed someone while abandoned your beloved city. Did you say "we surround" doesn't that mean we're out of the city. lol.

Posted: **Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:56 pm**

zidane88 wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:31 pm It is comical how keyboard warrior S/net kids write their fantasies here.
For a start, this Gaala-led government made a U-Turn about its national census programme, which intended for land-grabs after a rejection from all Kilils. Weakness point one.
https://mereja.com/index/270163

Secondly Oromos are not united. It was almost 2 months ago when Federal army (OPD) led attacked OLF positions in Wallega, and since then they can't see eye to eye, and Wallega is in OLF hands.
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-ethio ... KKCN1PA2LB

the situation right now, Oromos divided. Abiye is with his beloved Neftegya Amharas, who are doing everything to destroy OLF, and using a tactic to pressure Abiye to do more for the destruction of OLF. Look at this topic they focus mainly one conflict where they didn't even mention the displaced Somalis at all.
https://borkena.com/2019/03/22/ethiopia ... ams-gov-t/

As far as leading party (EPRDF) is concerned, they merely changed shirts from Tigre to Oromo but that doesn't mean that all Oromos are onboard.
There's tug-of war of who belongs Addis ababa where Amharas are claiming it as Ethiopian city and them of being majority, Oromo have their own idea of it calling it Finfine...city of their own.

I haven't even mentioned a whole of Tigre region where the government can't have a say. Abiye needs more than miracles to solve the pandora box that have opened.

1) Forget the census, that is the least of anyone's worries. Pointless to mention it, it proves how short-sighted and doqonkii you are.

2) OLF already turned in their arms and is no longer active. They have agreed to peace with/through the Oromo elders and Abba Gadaas.
Wallaga is in the militarys hands fool, there has been a state of emergency there for a few months now. the army is there in full force patrolling. there is no way it can be in OLF's hands. You need to get in tune with what's happening on the ground
If oromos were not united, we would not have been able to chase away your tplf masters who used the ogaden lands as their personal toys and playground.
and if we were divided, as you evil wishes are, we would not have christian oromos separating their church from amharas.
they are prepared to cut off all associations with amhara extremists who use religion card, even though their church hates oromos of all religions, they hate muslims, they hate somalis, who do they like? just their own kind.
oromo unity now is stronger even than the 16th century when we were smashing our enemies left and right, and capturing beautiful green lush lands with plenty of rivers.

Yes there is indeed an issue over addis abeba-nobody, including myself, denied it.
however-we will not back down, and we have plenty of cards to play.
we feed the city. the cities water comes from oromia. even when they want to get rid of waste/trash/etc, it's in oromia's areas.
we can literally cut off the city, the same we did before, when the tplf was shook to the core, and ran away.

why would abiy bother tigray if tigray is not bothering us? a strong tigray that can keep amharas crying is the best for us.
they will not fight oromos, so we do not care, as u can see, amharas only cried when tigrayan tanks rolled into town.
they were hoping oromos would fight for them, because as u know, the amharas never won a major war alone.
adwa? oromos mostly fought.

Posted: **Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:04 pm**

You're calling doqonki on someone when you're the real doqon. The census was your card of land-grabs that has backfired,

how can you say forget it?
I have to point out failures from this Gaala-led government.

OLF surrendered? surrendered to whom, to those who give their biggest city to Amhara.

isn't that a double defeat you're confessing.

have a look at this, who were they?
https://borkena.com/2019/03/19/oromo-gu ... oreigners/

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