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Ben Dover wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 4:40 pm

grandpakhalif wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 4:23 pm


I just checked it out and it does mention Wagardhac as (Bon Marehan) how very strange. I was so perplexed by Bend Over picture that I had to convince myself it was fake.

I wonder where uponst these Bon Wagardhac lived? Were they amongst the Bon Marehan in NFD? This is f-king strange observation and I wonder who told William this

Perhaps the colonialists were fed incorrect info?
Perhaps a subsection of Bon Hawarsame claimed Wagardhac?

I have to get to bottom of this, please give me more book links.

I told you it was true.

Boni Wagardhac, Boni Hawrarsame and Boni Habaryacquub are recorded as distinct groups in scholarly text.

I applaud you for seeking to get more info, this is the only way to deal with recorded history. A much more mature approach than the semi-retarded folk in previous pages

This is an explosive find and I have found even more mentions of Wagardhac being Bon



https://books.google.ca/books?id=UnBBAQ ... oQ6AEIRzAF

This explains so much in terms of Marehan hierarchal structure, current Marehan leadership crisis etc. You have done a huge favour for me and I shall do more research thank you!

Marehan dont get offended by these historical documents we must use them to our advantage and realise why our ancestors outcasted these folks. Great lessons can be derived from history as the current quagmire we find ourselves in.

SuldaanMaplesyrup wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 5:01 pm

Ben Dover wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 4:32 pm

SuldaanMaplesyrup wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 4:24 pm Voltage has gone full mental

UNDP, UNESCO, EU all sent him a private messages on Snet.

There is a bidding war going on right this moment, the autistic boon is "second to none"

These NGOs are lining up to hear his incoherent rants

UNDP internal mail:

"Subject: Guuyyyys, check Somalinet forum asap"



Still cant believe the autistic bastard thought saying this was a good idea

grandpakhalif wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 5:18 pm This is an explosive find and I have found even more mentions of Wagardhac being Bon




This explains so much in terms of Marehan hierarchal structure, current Marehan leadership crisis etc. You have done a huge favour for me and I shall do more research thank you!

You are most welcome. Do share your findings once you are done

Why is Boni Wagardhac being of boon heritage causing a crisis in leadership? Are they revolting?

Ben Dover wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 5:22 pm

grandpakhalif wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 5:18 pm This is an explosive find and I have found even more mentions of Wagardhac being Bon




This explains so much in terms of Marehan hierarchal structure, current Marehan leadership crisis etc. You have done a huge favour for me and I shall do more research thank you!

You are most welcome. Do share your findings once you are done

Why is Boni Wagardhac being of boon heritage causing a crisis in leadership? Are they revolting?

Not quite, I remember in 2016 when my clan (Reet Dalal) briefly squirmished with Wagardhac during the aano qabiil wars of 2016. I was actually present during that timr and guess who they allied with ? Hawarsame and Fiqi Yacquub.

So this colonialist shocked me when he grouped them with this and now more confirmation in different scholarly texts.

It was quite a coincidence

grandpakhalif wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 5:32 pm Not quite, I remember in 2016 when my clan (Reet Dalal) briefly squirmished with Wagardhac during the aano qabiil wars of 2016. I was actually present during that timr and guess who they allied with ? Hawarsame and Fiqi Yacquub.

So this colonialist shocked me when he grouped them with this and now more confirmation in different scholarly texts.

It was quite a coincidence

There you go.

This is a prime example of why the study of history is so important. The boons have shared history so it is not surprising at all that they would become allies.

Keep digging

Ben Dover wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 5:38 pm

grandpakhalif wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 5:32 pm Not quite, I remember in 2016 when my clan (Reet Dalal) briefly squirmished with Wagardhac during the aano qabiil wars of 2016. I was actually present during that timr and guess who they allied with ? Hawarsame and Fiqi Yacquub.

So this colonialist shocked me when he grouped them with this and now more confirmation in different scholarly texts.

It was quite a coincidence

There you go.

This is a prime example of why the study of history is so important. The boons have shared history so it is not surprising at all that they would become allies.

Keep digging

Voltage is those neo enlightened Somalis who believe in egatalarian values but Somalia is Somalia, and a midgan is known and those outcasted Marehans like Hawarsaame and Fiqi Yacquub married and gained the culture of midgan after being outcasted for centuries.

Wallahi my subclan dont interrymarry with them in Cabudwaaq they call you Barmidgo if your hooyo is one and wont give their nasab daughter to them. This is the honest truth, I dont know why Marehans here like to coddle them but once you go midgan you can never "go back" less risk being tainted. This is Somali particularly Mudug nasab culture, and theres no need to defend folks that your ancestors outcasted long ago, nostalgic feeling or not.

grandpakhalif wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 5:45 pm Voltage is those neo enlightened Somalis who believe in egatalarian values but Somalia is Somalia, and a midgan is known and those outcasted Marehans like Hawarsaame and Fiqi Yacquub married and gained the culture of midgan after being outcasted for centuries.

Wallahi my subclan dont interrymarry with them in Cabudwaaq they call you Barmidgo if your hooyo is one and wont give their nasab daughter to them. This is the honest truth, I dont know why Marehans here like to coddle them but once you go midgan you can never "go back" less risk being tainted. This is Somali particularly Mudug nasab culture, and theres no need to defend folks that your ancestors outcasted long ago, nostalgic feeling or not.

Very interesting.

What about Boni Wagardhac? Does your clan intermarry with them?

Ben Dover wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 5:49 pm

grandpakhalif wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 5:45 pm Voltage is those neo enlightened Somalis who believe in egatalarian values but Somalia is Somalia, and a midgan is known and those outcasted Marehans like Hawarsaame and Fiqi Yacquub married and gained the culture of midgan after being outcasted for centuries.

Wallahi my subclan dont interrymarry with them in Cabudwaaq they call you Barmidgo if your hooyo is one and wont give their nasab daughter to them. This is the honest truth, I dont know why Marehans here like to coddle them but once you go midgan you can never "go back" less risk being tainted. This is Somali particularly Mudug nasab culture, and theres no need to defend folks that your ancestors outcasted long ago, nostalgic feeling or not.

Very interesting.

What about Boni Wagardhac? Does your clan intermarry with them?

No very rarely and if does occur a huge uproar occurs. Did you know one laf of Wagardhac was originally Cabsiyo Cayr? They are called Cumar Dheer.

War these people are diverse tribe

grandpakhalif wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 4:23 pm


I just checked it out and it does mention Wagardhac as (Bon Marehan) how very strange. I was so perplexed by Bend Over picture that I had to convince myself it was fake.

I wonder where uponst these Bon Wagardhac lived? Were they amongst the Bon Marehan in NFD? This is f-king strange observation and I wonder who told William this

Perhaps the colonialists were fed incorrect info?
Perhaps a subsection of Bon Hawarsame claimed Wagardhac?

I have to get to bottom of this, please give me more book links.

Jstor.org has a copy or review for viewing. You can also search Worldcat.org for a copy available at libraries in the US or Europe. As for who possibly fed William incorrect info, it could be individuals from (a) rival clan(s). I haven't come across these sort of claims in Bughyat al-Amal fi-Tariq as-Sumal, by Shariif Caydaruus. Suffice to say, these claims appear in the works of missionaries & Afrocentric scholars, made during the colonial times.

Voltage wrote: Sun May 17, 2020 6:06 am
2. The sub-clan with the largest number of representatives in the Somali Parliament RIGHT NOW is Marehan (17...3 Senators and 14 MPs)

False.

Mudulood got 15 mps and 4 senators.

9 Abgaal( 3 harti, 3 wacbuudhan, 3 waceysle)
3 Udeejeen
1 hilibi
1 Moobleen
1 Wacdaan.

4 senators ( 1 harti, 1 Wacbuudhan, 1 waceysle, 1 Udeejeen).

paperino wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 6:30 pm

grandpakhalif wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 4:23 pm


I just checked it out and it does mention Wagardhac as (Bon Marehan) how very strange. I was so perplexed by Bend Over picture that I had to convince myself it was fake.

I wonder where uponst these Bon Wagardhac lived? Were they amongst the Bon Marehan in NFD? This is f-king strange observation and I wonder who told William this

Perhaps the colonialists were fed incorrect info?
Perhaps a subsection of Bon Hawarsame claimed Wagardhac?

I have to get to bottom of this, please give me more book links.

Jstor.org has a copy or review for viewing. You can also search Worldcat.org for a copy available at libraries in the US or Europe. As for who possibly fed William incorrect info, it could be individuals from (a) rival clan(s). I haven't come across these sort of claims in Bughyat al-Amal fi-Tariq as-Sumal, by Shariif Caydaruus. Suffice to say, these claims appear in the works of missionaries & Afrocentric scholars, made during the colonial times.

You seem well versed in Somali history are you Reer Xamar cadcad

grandpakhalif wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 6:49 pm You seem well versed in Somali history are you Reer Xamar cadcad

On history, there are many here and out there who are better than I'm. I'm half cadcad.

Nomand wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 5:35 pm

STARKAST wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 2:43 pm Beesha MX - if you haven't got any haters that means you ain't doing something right !

Smile

thats true somalis by nature are envious and haters by heart. And no one spends so much time on for example hating cadcads or madhibaans because if we are being honest they hold no political, military or economic power in somalia.

So it is exactly as you said.

Some Somalis are irrational beyond belief. This irrationally leads to jealousy then envy and ultimately to hate. And to hate anyone is the definition of weakness. So as i said beesha be proud you have haters that fabricate lies and obsess over yall.

No offence to HJ but i have to add apart from Isaaq who even cares to research this clan ?

dalalos101 wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 3:48 pm

STARKAST wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 2:43 pm Beesha MX - if you haven't got any haters that means you ain't doing something right !

Smile

Why are you mentioning Smile ?

You were caught attacking Wagardhac boy don't think I will forget that, even if it was reactionary to my Karbash.

Smile..

Wagardhac are PL citizens, i think your misinformed, boy.

Grandpa is rageedi wallahi.

Grandpa,

You a bitch nigga whose tough with other MX but never with shisheeye. And you wonder why niggas look at you sus