Will there ever be Greater Somalia?

[Ugaas Diini]

[zackabdul]

Isn't there a "Yaqoob" clan that is discriminated against within thte Mareexan?

[Ugaas Diini]

[DawladSade]

[quote="AbdiWahab252"]UD,

My friend's grandfather was born in Kisumu but would it be fair for Issaq to claim Kisumu cuz someone was born there ?

Plus, Talxe and hawarsame are discriminated against with in the Marexan. Go tell your parents u want to marry one and let us see how they react.

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Look at this kid, he has been listening to Costa and Klash the midgaan before we shut them down. Kowdine ku ye Taleex before you corrected him.

Dude my uncle, one of dad's brothers, is married to a Talhe and my grandfather, mom's dad, married a young Talhe woman couple years ago. Next time don't embarrass yourself man.

[zackabdul]

^^^You're stupid. Wabneeye is the son of Maxamed Harti(Majeerteen). And galgale, I don't consider them Majeerteen, no Majeerteen does. Just because Morgan claims they are Majeerteen ain't going to work. We're not a confederacy like the damn Hawiye. Reer Becid-yahan are not discriminated against, tell me where you heard this. There are majeerteen by blood and are equal to any other Majeerteen. They are fighters I love them to death!

[Sadaam_Mariixmaan]

My girl is Hoowrarsame

[AbdiWahab252]

UD,

Its good to see your family is very liberal

Now stop the discrimination in Beesha Marexan.

Someone help the HAwrarsame who are seeking protection as reported by Madhibaan.org:

http://www.madhibaan.org/news/break-hawrasame-alert.htm



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[AbdiWahab252]

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Hawrarsame Alert


Hawrarsame suffer from clashes which killed more than 100 in SW-SOMALIA

12.05.2004

Dear Sir/s.

On behalf of local residents of Bula-Hawa, who have been displaced to the outskirts of the town
and towards the border location of the BP1 area inside Kenya, we hereby like to officially request
your honourable officers that our Hawrarsame communities experienced unforgettable, harrowing
difficulties and problems done by cruel and ruthless religous Al-Itihad-extremists, the Jubba Valley
Alliance and the Abdi-Qasim (TNG) groups.

We are a caste and a discriminated community living in Bula-Hawa district and the surrounding
villages. The fighting erupted in the town on 8th of May 2004, after killing of the Hawrasame businessman named Diriye Ibrahim Khalid in an argument over the control of the town, those groups launched a well coordinated attack against our existence and presence on the ground and they mercilessly shelled innocent civilians and burned hundreds of houses, shops, restaurants, pharmaceutical outlets, milling machines etc. and committed a total economic sabotage.

As we are isolated, discriminated and disdained communities, who don’t share inter-marriage culture among the Marehan communities, we suffered such tragic events done by Marehan sub clans and external extremists supporting them.

Therefore, we are appealing to you to save the lives of thousands of vulnerable Hawrasame people displaced to the border town of Mandhera-Kenya, and outskirts of Bula-hawa town whereby their houses and business locations were deliberately set a fire. We are requesting immediate assistance and help to those effected the fighting.

We are also appealing that those responsible e.g. for burning a house with seven children inside, destroying our properties and causing water-wells to collapse, to brought justice.

The people of the Hawrasame clan are the target now, and we need the international community to ensure the safety of our people and our existence, since there is a clear danger of ethnic cleansing and genocide as happened Rwanda in 1994.

N.N.

The author is a member of this community and is known to ECOTERRA, but requested:

"Telling the truth causes a big threat against my life The HAWRARSAME do need to publicise the atrocities committed by these agressors, but please don't mention my name. Thank you for your continued support that you always provide for marginalized comunities."

[DawladSade]

Qansa, guess why Dr. Maxamed Faarax Jimcaale was never able to rise to Sacad leadership? This guy is using how they discriminate against each other in Sacad and using that as his "broad microscope" for how supposedly all Somali clans act.

[AbdiWahab252]

DawladSade,

So why the hate on the Hawrasame ????

[Sadaam_Mariixmaan]

nacaska ceeb

Hawrarsame are not Midgo but Xalal and Nasab

they just killed Boqorka Beesha SADE, Boqor Maxamed Da'uud

[zackabdul]

Mareexan have kings? SINCE WHEN LMFAO

[DawladSade]

Abdiwahab, what you brought is the fight between the SNF-SRRC. Hawlraarsame and reer Hassan were fighting against reer Ahmed and Cali Dheere.

But you are right Hawlraarsame HAVE been discriminated against, but it was for an understandable reason and it has been solved recently.

Hawlraarsame aka Cali Amaanreer killed Boqor Maxamed Da'uud who is the great, great.....grandfather of reer Diini and the boqor of Darod. Darood dhaxaltooyadiisa Mareexaan baa lahaa as even your elders will tell you. When Hawlraarsame killed boqor Maxamed Da'ud, he was faced with the biggest consequence and mag ever known because the boqortooyo was then taken by the Majerten. His sentence made the Somali maamaah for a killer destressed about his fate:

Ma Magtii Maxamed Da'uud baa kugu maqan

Also why Xussein was nicked named Celi (as in the Celi vs. Puntland of last year) because everytime Hawlraarsame brought the mag he used to say "Celi, laabo ee kusoo dar". Hawlraarsame was never forgiven and kept separated (takxir) until 2001 when reer Dalal killed the Ugaas of Mareexaan, Ugaas Siraaji, in Caabudwaaq and no one can "takxir" them. Hawlraarsame then started an olalo in Mareexaan and demanded their rights and respect back and Mareexaan agreed. To seal the deal even the ugaas of Mareexaan offered one of his daughters to them.

[Sadaam_Mariixmaan]

Cali Dheere got their asses handed to them

[AbdiWahab252]

DawladSAde,

Thanx for the explanation.

The Wajir MPs, The Mandhera MPs, Garissa Mps and NFD folks reject Jubbaland.