Bosaso, Fastest Growing City of Somalia
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Re: Bosaso, Fastest Growing City of Somalia
Yeah Bosaso looks nice and it keeps growing mashallah
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Re: Bosaso, Fastest Growing City of Somalia
why you guys have 2 hate bossaso loooks good
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Re: Bosaso, Fastest Growing City of Somalia
mansha allah i'll be moving there for good in a month cant wait





Re: Bosaso, Fastest Growing City of Somalia
I share the same sentiments. Bossasso is growing at exponential rate and if it continues at this pace it will become the Boston of the Horn in no time. Which brings up the issue of Daroods migrating Southward to Hawiye/Raxanwheyn/Dir lands, that is everything south of Gaalkacyo. They should believe in themselves and potential of their lands which is immense. Daroods if they put their minds into it can turn the entire barren Bari into lush oasis teeming with wildlife and greenery. They can do it.
I have confidence in my darood brother's ingenuity thats why I highly encourage daroods to stay in their land and develop it. Don't waste your resources with M'disho and southern Somalia. It never was nor will ever be yours.
I have confidence in my darood brother's ingenuity thats why I highly encourage daroods to stay in their land and develop it. Don't waste your resources with M'disho and southern Somalia. It never was nor will ever be yours.
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Re: Bosaso, Fastest Growing City of Somalia
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, tell me your not serious...............first muqdisho is clanless, it's a federal city, second the whole jubbaland (southern somalia) is darood majority, so no-one is moving anywhere. The idea that harti lands belong to all darood is absurd, Ogaadeen and Mareexaan dont have sh!t to do with bosaaso, using your logic since hawiya also are from central somalia, why dont you move up there and forget about banaadir it belongs to cad-cads and other minority.

Re: Bosaso, Fastest Growing City of Somalia
[quote="Advocatar"]^
, tell me your not serious...............first muqdisho is clanless, it's a federal city, second the whole jubbaland (southern somalia) is darood majority, so no-one is moving anywhere. The idea that harti lands belong to all darood is absurd, Ogaadeen and Mareexaan dont have sh!t to do with bosaaso, using your logic since hawiya also are from central somalia, why dont you move up there and forget about banaadir it belongs to cad-cads and other minority.[/quote]
My position is simple yet sublime. I'll recap for you:
1. We know where daroods traditionally settled.
a. Harti darood settle in Puntland. We know where C/yuusuf comes from, we know where morgan comes from and we certainly now where Af-guduud comes from. Lets not waste time arguing over facts.
b. Marexaans settle in Galguduud, Kilinka 5naad, NFD plus ONLY two tuulooyin that can be regarded as rightfully "theirs" which are Beled xaawo and Garbahaarey with total population no more than few thousands at most (pre-civil war). Everything else in Southern Somalia belongs either to Raxanweyns, Hawiyes, Dir or minorities. If you disagree tell me where and show me someone from these regions who had a granparent born there. Remember claiming regions requires rightful ownership to begin with. If you got there by historical injustice (via siad barre, italians etc) you can't claim it as yours.
c. Ogadens live in Kilinka 5naad... they're too lily-livered to defend their lands from Oromo and Xabashi so they claim other Somali's lands, what a pathetic weaklings. Having said that i'm willing to concede Af Madow to OGs so long as you accept Af-madow doesn't equal to Jubooyinka.
2. 90% of all daroods in S. Somalia are refugees from 1991, Somalia-Ethiopia war, oppurtunistic migration during faqash occupation and refugees during natural disasters like the devastating dhabo-dheer drought in the 70s. They will eventually go back to their traditional degaans whether they like it or not.
3. Before the war 80% of M'disho was Hawiye (US government, 1993). 90% of modern Xamar was the traditional degaans of Mudulood/murursade (wardhiigley is the place some of these clans used to fight over hence the name War Dhiigley). To this day Mudulood and murursade make up the majority of Mogadisho. Therefore M'disho is Hawiye land.
4. Every region of Somalia belongs to particular clan or clans. There's no such thing as clanless land.

My position is simple yet sublime. I'll recap for you:
1. We know where daroods traditionally settled.
a. Harti darood settle in Puntland. We know where C/yuusuf comes from, we know where morgan comes from and we certainly now where Af-guduud comes from. Lets not waste time arguing over facts.
b. Marexaans settle in Galguduud, Kilinka 5naad, NFD plus ONLY two tuulooyin that can be regarded as rightfully "theirs" which are Beled xaawo and Garbahaarey with total population no more than few thousands at most (pre-civil war). Everything else in Southern Somalia belongs either to Raxanweyns, Hawiyes, Dir or minorities. If you disagree tell me where and show me someone from these regions who had a granparent born there. Remember claiming regions requires rightful ownership to begin with. If you got there by historical injustice (via siad barre, italians etc) you can't claim it as yours.
c. Ogadens live in Kilinka 5naad... they're too lily-livered to defend their lands from Oromo and Xabashi so they claim other Somali's lands, what a pathetic weaklings. Having said that i'm willing to concede Af Madow to OGs so long as you accept Af-madow doesn't equal to Jubooyinka.
2. 90% of all daroods in S. Somalia are refugees from 1991, Somalia-Ethiopia war, oppurtunistic migration during faqash occupation and refugees during natural disasters like the devastating dhabo-dheer drought in the 70s. They will eventually go back to their traditional degaans whether they like it or not.
3. Before the war 80% of M'disho was Hawiye (US government, 1993). 90% of modern Xamar was the traditional degaans of Mudulood/murursade (wardhiigley is the place some of these clans used to fight over hence the name War Dhiigley). To this day Mudulood and murursade make up the majority of Mogadisho. Therefore M'disho is Hawiye land.
4. Every region of Somalia belongs to particular clan or clans. There's no such thing as clanless land.
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Re: Bosaso, Fastest Growing City of Somalia
^^ Dude the Harti clans were in Southeren Somalia as early as the 1800s. You want proof, just ask. 

Re: Bosaso, Fastest Growing City of Somalia
Yes please provide proofs justifying Harti claims in southern Somalia.
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Re: Bosaso, Fastest Growing City of Somalia
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/5059/mjss0.png <----- MUST READ
"About 1868 an armed Majeerteen force invaded and captured the port city of Kismaayo at the mouth of the Juba River, the center of a rapidly developing agricultural region. At Kismaayo, through 1900s, Majeerteen merchants purcased cattle and slaves from interior people for resale in Arabia"
Hawiye were never there, the Ogaden and the Harti were the first out of Somalia's dominant clans to arrive in the Lower Juba. Hawiye and Rahanwein can never claim these areas. So to say we came after 1991 is ridiculous, I suggest you stop stating things you know nothing about!

"About 1868 an armed Majeerteen force invaded and captured the port city of Kismaayo at the mouth of the Juba River, the center of a rapidly developing agricultural region. At Kismaayo, through 1900s, Majeerteen merchants purcased cattle and slaves from interior people for resale in Arabia"
Hawiye were never there, the Ogaden and the Harti were the first out of Somalia's dominant clans to arrive in the Lower Juba. Hawiye and Rahanwein can never claim these areas. So to say we came after 1991 is ridiculous, I suggest you stop stating things you know nothing about!


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I am not justifying Mareexans claim on Gedo because obviously Rahanwein and Garre were there first, but regardless the strongest survive and you have to fight for your land. 

Re: Bosaso, Fastest Growing City of Somalia
[quote="zackabdul"]http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/5059/mjss0.png <----- MUST READ
"About 1868 an armed Majeerteen force invaded and captured the port city of Kismaayo at the mouth of the Juba River, the center of a rapidly developing agricultural region. At Kismaayo, through 1900s, Majeerteen merchants purcased cattle and slaves from interior people for resale in Arabia"
Hawiye were never there, the Ogaden and the Harti were the first out of Somalia's dominant clans to arrive in the Lower Juba. Hawiye and Rahanwein can never claim these areas. So to say we came after 1991 is ridiculous, I suggest you stop stating things you know nothing about!
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"About 1868 an armed Majeerteen force invaded and captured the port city of Kismaayo at the mouth of the Juba River, the center of a rapidly developing agricultural region. At Kismaayo, through 1900s, Majeerteen merchants purcased cattle and slaves from interior people for resale in Arabia"
^so sea pirates raid is your justification for claiming Kismaayo as Harti lands?
You just unwittingly redeemed my arguement. Harti daroods never settled in Southern Somalia least of all in Kismaayo. Kismaayo was not Hawiye or Raxanweyn land either, it was dir and Jiddu land. Few Majeerteen sea pirates raiding the town like geeljires pirating camels doesn't entitle you with just claim of ownership. If you're making your claim of Jubooyinka on historical injustices like sea pirate raids then know others can do the same to your degaans. Retroactively!
"About 1868 an armed Majeerteen force invaded and captured the port city of Kismaayo at the mouth of the Juba River, the center of a rapidly developing agricultural region. At Kismaayo, through 1900s, Majeerteen merchants purcased cattle and slaves from interior people for resale in Arabia"
Hawiye were never there, the Ogaden and the Harti were the first out of Somalia's dominant clans to arrive in the Lower Juba. Hawiye and Rahanwein can never claim these areas. So to say we came after 1991 is ridiculous, I suggest you stop stating things you know nothing about!


"About 1868 an armed Majeerteen force invaded and captured the port city of Kismaayo at the mouth of the Juba River, the center of a rapidly developing agricultural region. At Kismaayo, through 1900s, Majeerteen merchants purcased cattle and slaves from interior people for resale in Arabia"
^so sea pirates raid is your justification for claiming Kismaayo as Harti lands?
You just unwittingly redeemed my arguement. Harti daroods never settled in Southern Somalia least of all in Kismaayo. Kismaayo was not Hawiye or Raxanweyn land either, it was dir and Jiddu land. Few Majeerteen sea pirates raiding the town like geeljires pirating camels doesn't entitle you with just claim of ownership. If you're making your claim of Jubooyinka on historical injustices like sea pirate raids then know others can do the same to your degaans. Retroactively!
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Re: Bosaso, Fastest Growing City of Somalia
No that we were there 100s of years ago buddy. We live around Kismaayo aswell!
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Re: Bosaso, Fastest Growing City of Somalia
Sea Pirates? We were in control of the city before the colonizers even arrived.
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Re: Bosaso, Fastest Growing City of Somalia
Jubboyinka and Kismaayu is ours 

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Re: Bosaso, Fastest Growing City of Somalia
As clans get bigger they migrate. Mareexan use to live in Nugal and now they are in Gedo. Harti migrated to Southeren Somalia two centuries ago. Clans are migrating right now, why do you think so much clans fight over land in Galbeed?
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