Old Articles.

[DawladSade]

[quote="zackabdul"]^^ That is the funniest sh!T I've heard. You guys were in the city before us too right? [/quote]


Clearly someone has been telling you the wrong bedtime stories.

[zackabdul]

So you're saying Mareexan arrived in Kismayo before the Majeerteen?

[DawladSade]

I wonder how today would be if Siad barre did not bring what little of you that was in Kismaayo because of Dabo-dheer drought.

[zackabdul]

Here we go again, Siyad Barre did nothing for us, don't say he did. He started harrasing people as soon as he asumed power.

[Unclebin-]

[quote="DawladSade"]I wonder how today would be if Siad barre did not bring what little of you that was in Kismaayo because of Dabo-dheer drought.[/quote]


There was 5000 Harti in Kismayo in 1868 of which the greater majority were majerteen.

This dabadheer you speak of is your way of hiding from the truth.

[zackabdul]

DS,

It's written down in history books.

[DawladSade]

Unclebin there were no Harti there. There were Harti guides brought by the Italians to help them come to Jubaland as indegnious people and such but overall you have nothing to claim. This is evident by the fact you never couple square miles on the coast.

A clan to have moved at that time would have to be a considerable voyage requiring many sections of including warriors and such. You were going to unchartered territory so you would have to go in great numbers even able to stake great amounts of land. Being brought by Italian in land already conquered by Marehan and Ogaden doesn't work. There were few of you scouts brought and you never moved beyond those few square miles.

Also, my father told me half of Baajuun have been given Majeerteen passport but allahu aclam on that kolayba.

[zackabdul]

Regardless we were there before you. CASE CLOSED.

[DawladSade]

Clearly something is wrong with your reading? Do you want to read again what I wrote?

[Warsame101]

DS, I laugh whenever people claim that a city rightfuly belongs to them without taking in to consideration that Somalis as a whole are conquerors.

The Jubbas were inhabited by Gallas before the advent of Mareexaan and Absame, Gaalkaacyo particulary used to be an Oromo city but Daarood conquered it.

Kismaayo belonged to the Swahili people before the advent of Daarood. The rule of "the land belongs to its natives" didn't count back then hence the easy land-grabbing.

If Harti ever had a large considerable presence in the Jubbas, they would have made themselves known. It only toke thousands of troops to ignite a fight between Mareexaan and them (including Absame troops).

Where were they in the 90's when Mareexaan elders signed a peace-deal in Kismaayo with the Absame elders from Jubboyinka who briefly occupied Kismaayo (Jess) with the help of Caydiid.

This is an AFP article dating back to 1993:


Kismayo elders adopt peace declaration

by Jean-Pierre Campagne

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Kismayo elders adopt peace declaration

3 June 1993
MOGADISHU, June 3 (AFP) - Somali clan elders from the Kismayo port area on Thursday adopted a peace declaration for their southern region where Somalia's two main armed factions have been fighting.

The elders undertook in their declaration to hold further discussions and bring about in the near future a "complete cessation of hostilities" between the rival clan militias.

Their beards reddened with henna and carrying canes sometimes studded with ivory, the elders represented the Somali Patriotic Movement of Colonel Omar Jess from the Ogaden region on one side and General Guebio of the Marehan on the other.

"In the name of Allah..." began the short statement of "peace and reconciliation among the people," read out by a representative of the U.N. Operation in Somalia, UNOSOM II, after five days of meetings in a Mogadishu hotel.//



Mareexaan have made known that they are the majority in the city and it is they who control the city.

[DawladSade]

Warsame, waa caruur waxaani we are just educating them.

[Unclebin-]

Okay I will take your argument one by one.

[quote]
Unclebin there were no Harti there. There were Harti guides brought by the Italians to help them come to Jubaland as indegnious people and such but overall you have nothing to claim. This is evident by the fact you never couple square miles on the coast.[quote]

The italians annexed jubaland from the british in 1924. The herti were in Kismayu before there were italians or for that matter british or europeans in Somalia. Where do you get your info?

Your argument wouldn't stand in childrens court. So what are you talking about?

[quote]
A clan to have moved at that time would have to be a considerable voyage requiring many sections of including warriors and such. You were going to unchartered territory so you would have to go in great numbers even able to stake great amounts of land. Being brought by Italian in land already conquered by Marehan and Ogaden doesn't work. There were few of you scouts brought and you never moved beyond those few square miles.
[quote]

Again your argument is fallacious. What italian scouts? the italians didn't know what Kismayu was until 1924. The ogaden conquered the wardai galla. Not Marehan. The ogaden continued to push them until the Tana River. The marehan would be in Garissa if they continued to push the galla. But the Abudwaaq Cabdalla are there. Not your kinfolk. There is a reason why the Oromo (boran) live side by side with Talamooge.

[quote]
Also, my father told me half of Baajuun have been given Majeerteen passport but allahu aclam on that kolayba.
[/quote]

Your father? You sound chilidish. My father told me blah blah blah. Was your father born and raised in Kismayu? LOOOL think outside the sphere of aabo.

Kulaha my father.

[Unclebin-]

[quote="Warsame101"]DS, I laugh whenever people claim that a city rightfuly belongs to them without taking in to consideration that Somalis as a whole are conquerors.

The Jubbas were inhabited by Gallas before the advent of Mareexaan and Absame, Gaalkaacyo particulary used to be an Oromo city but Daarood conquered it.

Kismaayo belonged to the Swahili people before the advent of Daarood. The rule of "the land belongs to its natives" didn't count back then hence the easy land-grabbing.

If Harti ever had a large considerable presence in the Jubbas, they would have made themselves known. It only toke thousands of troops to ignite a fight between Mareexaan and them (including Absame troops).

Where were they in the 90's when Mareexaan elders signed a peace-deal in Kismaayo with the Absame elders from Jubboyinka who briefly occupied Kismaayo (Jess) with the help of Caydiid.

This is an AFP article dating back to 1993:


Kismayo elders adopt peace declaration

by Jean-Pierre Campagne

//
Kismayo elders adopt peace declaration

3 June 1993
MOGADISHU, June 3 (AFP) - Somali clan elders from the Kismayo port area on Thursday adopted a peace declaration for their southern region where Somalia's two main armed factions have been fighting.

The elders undertook in their declaration to hold further discussions and bring about in the near future a "complete cessation of hostilities" between the rival clan militias.

Their beards reddened with henna and carrying canes sometimes studded with ivory, the elders represented the Somali Patriotic Movement of Colonel Omar Jess from the Ogaden region on one side and General Guebio of the Marehan on the other.

"In the name of Allah..." began the short statement of "peace and reconciliation among the people," read out by a representative of the U.N. Operation in Somalia, UNOSOM II, after five days of meetings in a Mogadishu hotel.//



Mareexaan have made known that they are the majority in the city and it is they who control the city.[/quote]



Are you taking articles from 1993 to justify presence of a city?

[DawladSade]

Unclebin there is enough proof here about "Traditional Marehan and Ogadenis capturing Kismaayo from Warday and Oromo" dude, no need for repetition, stop misleading that kid.


Warsame, Morgan the fulay signed peace with Caydiid and Mareexaan and Dhulbahante once threatened they will evict him from the city if he did not go back from the treaty.

[quote]Tensions in Kismayo are extremely high, as the Marehan clan and most of the Dolbahante clan have broken ranks with General Morgan over the signing of the peace treaty with the Habar Gedir. This ten- sion was especially high during the meeting between Sayid Hussein, Liqliqato and Morgan, which was not successful, contrary to UNOSOM's assessment.[/quote]

http://www.africa.upenn.edu/Newsletters/SNU25.html

[zackabdul]

Go back to Gedo and build your own city.